The Wild Cards Get Off Topic 3

This week's episode of the Wild Card podcast is brought to you by the Wild Cards present the Wild Cards present. Oh, oh, I know We'll do like a world. Oh, it's a good idea Okay, how about something like a we're here in nearby fields and we have tripods descending Make sure you keep your loved ones away from these fields because they seem to be abducting villagers My I had to eat the man who was living here because I had to hide from the aliens and didn't know how long I'd be able to survive It is human! That's not even really okay.

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Forest gov. Nope. Welcome to the Wild Card podcast. I'm your host, Jared Eaton and my co-pilot's on this journey to wherever are my good friends, Jeff Curtis.

Salute! And he's from a whole different world, a different dimension. Open his eyes and he's ready to go, leave him into the light. Kiss him.

Kick, kiss him. Invict him with your love and fill him with your poison. Take him to take him. He wants to be a victim.

Ready for abduction. It's Ron Blair. You're damn right. Currently probing himself.

Myself. And I'm not sorry. It's apologetic. Do you have any idea where that name came from?

No. It's from Katy Perry lyrics. Okay, one of them near the end is out of the familiar. Oh, that's some woman that I've never cared to listen to.

Is it an issue song? It's not a good one. No. She was really funny on Saturday Night Live.

I believe that. Her songs had a lot of personality. Yeah. She seems to have a lot of personality.

I know very well. Good for you, Gal. So, alien about Pete Rumbler. Tell him the decades.

What this podcast is all about. This podcast is all about poetry. Like this poem that I wrote last Friday after I had woken up with a queasy stomach. But then later on in the day during work, I ordered soup, Mexican chicken soup, which is very delicious, but I forgot to tell him to leave out the picot de gallo.

And already being sick, I was like, I don't want to waste $6 though. So, I went ahead and ate it with the picot de gallo in it. Many raw onions in picot de gallo. And later on after I went home early from work, I wrote this poem, Damn You Onions, Damn You Soup, You Make Me Vomit, You Make Me Poop.

And that's what my Friday was like, and that's what this podcast is about, is presenting poems based on our real life about making our leaders' problems. I mean, not so. Again, this one is closer than a lot of them have been in terms of what it's like. Yeah, it's one of them.

That's one of them. That's making poetry. One of them was succinct. That's better than that.

That's less a poem and more of a limerick. Well, no. There once was a big market. They have to be five in the country or whatever.

It's going to be a quad train. It's going to be a quad train. We know our poetry here, sir. It's a BAB.

The other thing we know is us. We know us well. And because we know us. Because we know us.

Because we know us. We know us so well. We have a favorite section on every week's episode. We talk about our opinions, which is the thing you should accept.

Whatever our opinions are, that's what you decked. This is the wall. I've been playing a game on my phone. Okay.

It's called Homescapes. That's what I played before. It's a candy crush style game. I don't think I started playing Candy Crush.

I have tons of levels of candy. I never did. I thought I remember you saying I was the video game like this. I never played Candy Crush.

It's the flipping the candies and making matches. It's the homestips. I never played Candy Crush. Because there's no goal other than a number.

It's not the kind of game I want to play. Homescapes is the same style of game, but you're earning stars for every level you beat. And you use the stars to upgrade the house. Yeah, it's great to help.

You're not upgrading so much of the actual gameplay. Here's a house that's kind of worn down. And you're making it. So you start with the entryway and you're making this lavish staircase.

And you do your bedroom and I'm on the kitchen right now. And so I have a place to stove and the sink and all the counters are looking really nice. Yeah. And you know, it's good to have a tangible feel that every game I'm working on the floors.

Yeah, even if the game plays the same, I always appreciate you finish this level. Now you improve this thing that doesn't matter in the game at all, but it's still progress. You see progress. So here's our favorite today's.

We have all inherited an exorbitant amount of money. It could happen. Congratulations. And now we're building our dream homes.

Excellent. What are features that we would want? Oh, Jared's doing the draft style again. So we get to each name on that one.

So I have it. You can't have it. Oh, okay. You're not going to name any of mine.

Are you sure? Oh, yeah. I have it. One of the first to me is if you take it, I'll be devastated.

Okay. Well, then you go first. I need to walk in shower. Oh, okay.

I need to shower. The glass showers. I've seen those. You walk into the tile the ground.

You can stretch out a little bit. I've got a rain shower head above. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

I've got to be right on the center of the ceiling. That's my last time. Oh, those are nice. Oh, those are nice.

The toilet I can't actually set up on, because I'm dancing. It's warm water, when warm water needs to go. Oh, yeah. I imagine though, if it was no hot water that day and you were like, I have to go, this bidet is going to do it automatically.

You don't have to use the bidet. I used the button I pushed. But what if you had to use the bidet? I wouldn't go back.

It was freezing cold water. It wouldn't be very good. It wouldn't be something. I've never had cold water squirted up my ass before, but this is so good.

You're right. You got me. I'm not saying I like it. Okay.

All right. So there's my first feature in my dream house. Okay. My first feature is an actual recording studio, not just this section of my basement, but with soundproof rooms and with particle heard on the walls and with the actual all of the state of the art equipment.

I've always wanted a full-scale recording studio in my house. That's nice. I want a secret passage behind the fireplace. It used to when it gets to where I was like into a play room for the kids.

Wouldn't that be fun? Right, children, find the fireplace. It could have dual purposes if you're looking to eat the children, which I did. Didn't get a chance to eat.

I never had the opportunity. In 18, 20 years, I've never had the opportunity. I think they probably buy a bag. Oh yeah, I'm not taking any one of them kids on their scrappy.

They're big. They're scrappy. So you're passing away. Next up, for me, I got some decent TV's in my house right now, but I want them mounted on walls.

Specifically, I stayed at a place once that had the TV in the bedroom. It wasn't huge, but it was not all that swivel. Nice, good-sized TV's mounted on walls. Nice, nice.

I want a tower. I want to pick that up next. Okay, like circular, like a tower with a penider. A spider, and a small spider, and a big window.

I want a little bit of it. I want it all going all the way around. I want a big, you know, sunny. What is the utility of this area of your house?

You just get to go up there and look out, read a book, you know. It's like a portion of your house. Right, like a lovely little area. You didn't say it had to be utility.

I didn't say it had to be utility. And you've said we've inherited an exorbitant amount. You have an exorbitant amount. I'm going to take this amount of money.

I'm going to get a tower. This is not right. Oh, it's a holy crap. On top of it.

I mean, that's it. Yes. No, I'm living. I also have this dream for many years, like 20 years now.

I don't even know what's going to happen now. I want, instead of a driveway, I like, I want a driveway, but it's like a parking area. And then once you've parked, you get into a boat. And the boat takes you along sort of a canal.

See, you live on an island? Yeah, kind of. It's like a spooky canal leading up to my house with overhang. So, you think like, we want to talk about it?

A little bit like that. Yeah, but it's an open. There's no where to go in. Right, or Venice.

It's spooky. Oh, this is creepy. I hope nobody jumps out. The rest of the park rides.

Yeah, but what happens when it's cold or when you get freezing rain and you still want to get to the house, but you have to ride the spooky boat of your canal? Well, there'll be heaters on there. There you go. There'll be heated boats.

You can get in and be like, mmm, there'll be walls on a roof. Nope. No, but it'll load directly on you. So you're like, oh, I can't wait to get in the house.

And then you're back, it'll be cold, but you're fine. I'll be like, you guys can take into things I want in my house. But there's no other things in this. All right, next up, I want the entry when you walk in, very high ceilings.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

A big window has always been one of my less. I want to have it. I want to have it. Additions, no pizza oven.

That is something to bring up. I like that. Yeah. It's a good one.

It's funny. I didn't think of that one. Well, I mean, Soggy Crest, if you get a Soggy Crest out of conventional oven, the whole piece of your like, well, this is like a. I'll never win the pizza paddle.

That's great. Oh, that would be great. I got a pizza stone, but it's so much nicer to have the whole piece of oven. Yeah.

I like that. I want a underground home movie theater. Oh, yeah. I got 50, 50 seats there, the whole schmear with a surround sound.

You want to have a different one now? No, but you know, you want to have choices for exactly this movie. Exactly. When those Crown Point style seats.

And the Crown Point style popcorn. Yeah. A popcorn machine with a Crown Popcorn. And the salt, the butter.

All that. I want that in my basement. Like a hidden area in the basement. See your passage leading to that.

Yeah. There you go. That's the next step to the fireplace. Exactly.

So I already mentioned the walk-in shower. So I'm just going to finish the bathroom out now. Okay. I want, you know, the nice.

I want a double van, even though I live on myself. I just like the idea of it. It's not super visible. It's just a piece of the real crayon.

And I want heated bathroom floors. Oh, no. That would be lovely. Yeah.

I want a giant library with o-shells. Two or three stories where you have, where you have, kind of, you get to walk around, you know, on the balconies on each side. And it matters to grab your books. Yeah.

With windows seats where you can sit in the window seat and read your book or a nice cupboard chairs in the middle of the room. Very cool. I like it. The first thing is to sound like me.

I don't know which I'd sound like. Speaking of the, what did you say, the double van, anything? Yeah. The house, the family that I played with down the street when I was growing up, they had a bathroom with, it was three sections of mirror and then they would fold out.

So you could make a triangle and then we would put the cat inside there. And the cat would just stare at herself and the millions of other cats that exponentially divided. Wonderful. And just would stare at it.

We thought that cat's having a good time or feels like a member of the Chinese army. So I don't drink. I don't do it. And you've already taken, like, the theater, but I still want a basement.

A nice basement. It's gonna have a bar. Yeah. And then when I stopped, I'm just going to use it and I'm just going to come over and want that.

I'm just going to do a basement. There'll be a TV there, but it's not a movie theater. I can't have a movie theater, but I'm a game theater. I'm a game theater theater.

A man came to the street. A little different. I just like the idea of a basement. I don't have one right now.

Yeah. I have one of me. I grew up with one. It's nice.

It's a good idea of a basement. Yeah. When the 20s comes, I have two games. I want a movie, Green's room.

A room where I go. A little screen. Yeah. Yeah.

I want to make videos. I want to make videos. I want to make videos. I want to make videos.

I want that too. I will head straight there down to my movie theater. Yeah. You guys can come over.

Okay. I make multiples. Oh my god. Oh my god.

The Rubins. The Rubins. What's the right meat? Oh my god.

I'd look like Marlon Brando. You got to be a bit of a freezer and you got deli meats. I have all I need. Nobody will ever see him.

I've never even ever leave home. No. I'm the assistant. You have to come here.

I'm theTT. I've got a great meal. Why don't you guys come over? Okay.

Yeah. I'll go to your place. But we're having pizza. But also like you know a nice multiple car garage, you know, you also have a driveway that goes to it Oh, so the city's working on your that's been a fun So there's no problem It's heated Yes, I saw someone put one of those into their house on this old house one.

Don't you work out? Is it like a hot plane underneath the asphalt? It's you know how they know it's the tubes of hot water that run through the no Shats ball and the warm's it up and that's brilliant and it melts the snow and you did another sidewalk, so you never have to shovel Well, yeah, and it's nose often the norasis they come in I think for Jeff I want a I want a stage like a live theater That's the one that I didn't put in that I was thinking I was she got work job of studio now you guys and now we heard So it's for your musicals and stuff like that's a little lesson something yeah, absolutely It's like a school fantastic. It's quickly becoming a school for the arts.

Yeah, hopefully the arts. Yes. Yes Jared You're a little more difficult always I find difficult I think for you what I would do is I would have a room with several outlets and several televisions Okay, and you've got like your choice of the Super Nintendo oh yeah, Nintendo 64 the switch the game What's all of these consoles on there both it from the past? That's the one thing I was hoping you get the only thing I was hoping for was an Azurey.

I'm an Azurey like a guard like a zoo I would do this for you. I would get you a Mass Effect VR, which is I don't think is a big enough But I'll make sure that they have them and that's what you would have that would be It would be a standing area like you know when the submarine Paris group comes down. It'd be your little circle and the VR thing comes down Haptic gloves, so that's exactly lovely. Thank you so much.

No man. I appreciate this I was a fun exercise and deck has we love to hear from you. What are the what are the tabs? We didn't say thing like a wine seller.

I said a wine. So I know I know I think the worst thing I could have in my life is Access to alcohol all the time whatever I want to do or a field of them Leaves Vegetation growing that that's not so much dangerous. That's my life anyway Who's house you want to visit first definitely? No, I'm going to death house.

Yeah, I'm going to do this house. Yeah, I want to play the consoles and stuff But when you want to get work done, you got the deli I do have a deli I can bring some meat Pizza you got pizza. I got candy. Oh my god.

We have all come here. We do theater or we do music Make movie some pizza's off or down some salami and does some people We get tired we go hang out in my library or my tower I'm going to watch movies and watch movie. Yeah, I'm going to say much in some of my god What a beautiful I need some money to do I can love if you are if you come and do some money recently and want to make our dreams reality We'll set up an account speaking of dreams and realities to the dream is that Ron is prepared a topic Reality is it's been five months since we went random and topic as you understand things were real busy like five months ago And so I was like, oh, I didn't have any time to prepare I had all the time of the world to prepare this But to give you a little bit of credit Halloween is over and you know, it's the horror season you've had is I gave three solid Yeah, solid well, we're asking you not to go over and so that that it limits me a great deal There were a couple topics I thought about going on too, but you know Let's just keep loose today. I have a look please do I'll put on put on this towel You know where pants, but I don't see your junk So since we're just discussing it here that I've written down first of all I want to tell you guys that Mackenzie got the ectc student of the month award this month The guy's like me we were well She was invited to the rotary club to do a speech on Tuesday Which was also election day and if you guys were anything like me the tensions were high watching these elections happen So when we get there the first thing that we heard from these people were a group of people in the corner talking about how the Republicans are gonna take the entire house and add Senate seats a couple more and then we listen to that Go on and on and on being guests of the people that were there for and then other Republicans just started filing in Left and right See it on me for sure I'm depated on your forehead right So we endear that a little bit, but they were very welcoming.

They were very kind It was a lovely spread by the EC3 culinary program which was Essentially this is the way I put it mikins and I we went amongst the Republicans She gave a speech about how great education and theater is and then we ate their food got into our iron emobile and voted the straight ticket line As soon as we left there that's what our Tuesday was yeah We and they were like yeah, the arts are important and I'm like well quick cutting our funding fuckers if it's so important No, it's important. It's an opportunity for people to donate to you so that you can Proceed your lifestyle without making any being able to make a living at it, right? That's exactly as long as you can't make money at the arts. They're all behind it.

They'll pay for a ticket so they can enjoy Friday night Right, right, but it's not valuable enough to actually provide money for you to do it as a lifestyle You can actually for affect your art without sacrificing all your free time because you're working a job the rest of your time You know, I swear, E-town could sustain An equity theater it has the talent it has the money if they were willing to give it into the arts community It could be done It's just not being done because a sports be the fucking shusters that run the sound or did it before election time Well part of it is also most people don't go to theater. They go to sports. They go to games That's why they spent all the money building the sports part right, but most people don't go to live theater We never all the live theater that we put on both at the pack and at the playoffs you see the same faces coming in You don't see a whole lot of people It's not something that people think of as doing as as entertainment Because they're not brought up to do it run up when we're doing the road It's one of Mavens friends came to see her as when we're doing it at the State Theater And she said that was the first time she had ever been to live Production of theater and it's the first time her mother had ever been to a play live theater show and it's like okay Well, and they enjoyed it, but it's not something they would think to do because it's not culturally something that is um That is um where it's culturally taught as an important thing, right? Or as a funny it's not he shouldn't do it because it's important she do it because it's fun yeah It's fun to go to the show it's entertainment and it but it might be a little bit more expensive than going to move It's valuable though like as a teacher and it reaches people and I know that I see you know my students Yeah, and I see my athletes and so many of them have confidence right because they feel that their skills are valued Yeah, and then I see my artists and they don't and now I in my classroom feature student artwork Right, I don't so much feature student classwork like putting up who did well in a project or a test I'm gonna crap good for you I care about like students who can invest in art to drawing painting things like that I want to feature that classroom right and so like I want those students who are gifted singers dancers You know artists visual artists to feel like what they're good at is just as valuable as what anyone else is gonna Well, and here's the thing businesses use the arts and professionals from the arts to make money for themselves or as part as promotion or for For their advertisements or anything else they use those people but they it's like those people aren't valuable except when they are helping you profit Sell yourself that that is an art and I'm not advocating necessarily art for the sake of art although I certainly believe in art It's Investing in arts is investing in the future of your your business is ability to find those people locally to do that that kind of work For you.

Yeah, no, I've said for many years that the arts is um The reason they're so important is it's a way for us right now to communicate to people a hundred years from now What life was like right now even the theater of the absurd and stuff like that will still show you what satire was at that time what? You know what absurdities their word during this time so this artwork is a communicative device Well people spend millions of dollars not individual people But there's millions of dollars spent on music by music that people you listen to in their cars or listen to that whole commercialized or buying buying television like Comcast or going to movies people invest money in these products that are made by studios and these Multicultural corporations using artists and yet they don't think of the local artists Yeah, that these that the people that they're spending millions of dollars They got their starting community theater. They got their starting schools or they got their start locally in a local band They don't think about that they think oh well these are great people about the people who any Elizabeth town I'm right that's exactly what it's a shame. We were most of us a professional level performers.

Yeah, no, it's horrible All right, I don't know if you have a question, but that's no I was just talking about yeah I went and saw a movie yesterday. Oh, yes. Okay. I went and some of you called overlord.

Yeah I've been introducing you two for a while Yeah, I went with some friends from our town and now I Let me describe the movie by comparing it to three movies. Okay. Take these two Those put them together in overlord saving private Ryan first. Okay, because that's the kind of movie this first off It's like a war movie right behind that with dawn of the dead.

Yeah, which I which one and Captain America Okay, I'll take it as long as the 78 No, no, it's more the fast one. Oh god damn it. No, that's why don't you put the word zombie right? It's you know, there's an element that it's these it's these allies They're trying to go into area of Germany and take down this radio tower that is broadcasting signals and disabling allied signals And once that's done then the allied invasion can begin.

Okay, France because this is France Not during the winter, right? And so you know the landing goes wrong and not people start a few do when I make this town and they see the German It's in its church and the towers there and they get into it and they want the guys gets inside and discovers there's some Weird science going on inside. Yeah It's like it's like the the mad German scientists who has created something or another yeah, I mean essentially it's not over the top Mad scientist, right? There is there are signs it's it takes itself seriously.

Okay in a way, but that said yeah I don't know if you enjoy there's a lot of gore I know that's not your company But I think you would appreciate cuz I wasn't friends like I wasn't clay Smith Well, I didn't think was one to enjoy. Yeah, but he really did exactly. It's a good move I don't like gore if it it's contention and it makes sense with the context of what's going on It makes sense to find it is more graphic than most people would ever think I did it. I'll see it I think you should I'll see it.

Yeah, I'm gonna play it on scene that one that was actually very Acting is really good. There's some some French actors in it the solid the guy who plays kind of the bad Nazi dude I think he's actually Danish, but great performances. I actually I want to see that mean Nutcracker is out right now I know it's weird. I'm not sure I just saw Bohemian Rhapsody.

Yeah, I loved it. I've heard someone was telling me I think when we were doing the the re through or something else that they weren't they were disappointed in it But I really enjoyed it, but I love Queen so you know when they're doing the The concert the live-aid concert and they do several or parts of their songs in it Yeah, there's no there's no story going on really it's just them saying I could have taken the whole 20 minute performance of that You know, I love Queen and was yeah, so I enjoyed it. So if you look Queen, it's it's a fantastic movie I would like the movie to be an hour longer and it's over to it's like two hours and so wow But because I want to see more Queen in their performance in more Queen in the studio recording songs. Yeah, I think It's clearly more about it's more about Freddie Mercury than it is Queen sure and it's more about his relationship with the girl that He loved but you know, he's and him dealing with his homosexuality right through the music So it deals a lot with that and less of the band and their And they're a process of and fighting over the music although there's that too and so I would like to see more of that because I'm a musician right But I really I love the movie.

Well, I mean Freddie was the face of the band John Taylor Roger Deacon and Brian Mayman like the best John Deacon John Deacon John Deacon and they all In their business, oh they all wrote music and they all had hit songs and it's because they're always competing Musically with each other. Yeah, that is one of the great things that made them so great because musically It wasn't just okay. Well, I'm the writer I've come in with all these songs I'm not going to perform is they all fighting over each of these compositions and then when Freddie Mercury left the band to do And so so he realized that his solo stuff wasn't working because people were doing exactly what he wanted And he wasn't getting that conflict he wasn't getting that pushback and it wasn't this group thing and that made them so great Which you gotta find out balance it because I either Or the Eagles want to they had that to where they're all given But they didn't they couldn't cooperate as well. No, I'm handling when for I were kind of bullies.

Yeah, that's well But they're also the colleagues No, I'm saying that Freddie Mercury was my very much a drug I don't know if the other but I'm not I don't know that the drugs were fueling their battles their battles They were they had they had battles over artistic stuff, but they weren't battling each other as wait till we get off stage I'm gonna keep your personal thing. It wasn't personal and emotional Competitiveness right between them what's next there. Thanks giving Here next week yeah, which are flummoxed us at least two-thirds of the wild cards and So tell me what would be your ideal Thanksgiving meal your ideal simple. I mean it's a monochromatic plate Okay, is it all white not exactly all shades of like yellow to white?

Yeah, yeah, he being a pilot turkey Yes, yes, sir. Okay. My father's I'm very very great. You gravy the turkey.

Nope necessary I just a mile salt. Yeah, it's good. Let's see if you know the turkey's great. I need a big old pile of vegetables Absolutely, no gravy on that either not necessary.

I like us in corn Uh-huh extra pepper on that okay, so mac and cheese. Yeah extra pepper on that. I'm with you in the role It's a sweet tea. That is lovely.

There's no color on that plate at all. How does yours differ Jeff? Well, what I want what I'm gonna do Mostly to what I mean turkey mashed potatoes corn rolls. I'd be happy with that.

I'm like stuffing to mine I love stuff. My family does a lot of casseroles. Yeah, and that's a bit of a curse word in my book really because here's the thing I think we've gone to death on how pick even either I am getting better right? I Know each I need I tried an egg roll and I hated it.

Okay, that's very calling because all the cabbage right really don't care for cabbage But the I tried I tried one on I want to I want to go where did you go? I like the place and I I like the place and I like the Great Enjoy The auditors really good and the broth in the one on two goes good with the one on themselves are just I've had one I'm away. Yeah, like you're eating them and then you cut it on my own. Oh, this is awful.

Yeah, I love it. It's good. I love it. I love it.

I love green bean casserole. I think that on mine stuffing gravy on everything. I can eat green beans. I can eat green beans.

If they're like if you're a French dog I like that a lot of extra salt pepper on them. I can eat those. They're not bad. Yeah, I don't like them But if they're there, I would eat something and the way you eat corn it's crazy to me Yeah, cuz we I grew up with butter and sugar and my corn and that to me is is Reasonable I don't want it.

No, I can't go away, but I'm not actually better on it I like to make sugar and my mashed potatoes and mix them together. Yes. Yes We used to we used to my mom would also make noodles and I'd mix the mashed potatoes and the noodles and the corn together I like to do butter beans if my mom would make butter beans and I would mix those in with the mashed potatoes and it was like this creamy delicious lima beanie kind of thing. I often do like green beans and baked beans for like For family events.

Yeah, I dig yeah, I dig. I dig. I'm beans. Just the texture of beans.

I dig all that So and it's pasting. What kind of role you go for like a regular dinner roll a yeast roll a cevada bread? What kind of like a roll? Yeah, what about like fried corn bread?

Yeah, that's my ideal right there There's a new restaurant that opened in the Bard's now in a few months back called Barreley Bond and I went there and it's a really cool Place but it's more expensive than it deserves to be yeah based upon the quality of food It's kind of fancy like so here's the thing I want to get appetizer I got grilled cheese sticks because I do cheese sticks and I heard grilled cheese I was quite like grilled cheese and grilled cheese and tomato soup and the grilled cheese sandwich kind of strips and it was fine Made into sticks and it was fine, but it was nothing special. Yeah, it was just exactly what I said when I hear just grilled cheese sticks I think they're it's a grilled cheese sandwich kind of sticks and then deep fried like cheese sticks Yeah, I don't think it's deep fried. It wasn't now. It was and then the tennis was fine You know when we went to universal and went to that restaurant methos that I got about We're all eating land burger or pad Thai or my flounder, which is extraordinary and Michelle got the grilled cheese and tomato soup And I thought well, this is high-end.

This will probably be yeah Yeah, there'll be something about right there'll be something the presentation was lovely It was a huge Texas toast grilled cheese swimming in tomato soup And then I we all shared our food with one another to try it out And I took a bite of hers and the mediocrity of this meal struck me right in the face for what we paid for it It was a grilled cheese bowl of like Campbell's tomato. Yeah, it was but I know it one Campbell's But it was like that was like the end that she was kind of thin The cheese was there's nothing about it. Yeah now that the meal I had was sand which was excellent and a grill of cornbread Oh my god, oh my god, you got glorious and then I'm like oh dessert. I like to try dessert.

Oh, yeah, and they had milk and cookies Milk where is this? This is barrelin ball. Oh, okay. Very long.

That's that's unique. That's not something you see just anywhere No, sorry that and it was a carton of milk like Cafeteria and cookies that weren't soft or very good Mule the meal with the appetizer and the dessert For the trays flipped it up on the table here you go. Yeah, well, it's a counter that yeah Friday I went to restaurant in Louisville called moquitos. You guys ever had tapas before top I've never had a tapas to tapas like small plates.

Yeah, so instead of ordering a meal necessarily could have a choice But you order small plates and share them we have six people people eight people table and so like each group I was out in the middle one group on each I got walk with Um, five plantings and the plantings were excellent I don't like it. Yeah, so you get a piece like a little chunk of planting like a tortilla I used to get a walk. I didn't like care for quite but I got the plantings great Well, I got like fried cheese bowl like fondue that harden and they had Crusts of red and cheese I bacon to it. Oh, yeah, and I got I got two things I got chicken skewers that had like a sauce I care for but on the plate so I just ate the chicken was wonderful Yeah, and I had short rib.

Oh The best food I've eaten a long time. That sounds awesome I like that one of my guys got a secret pie that took up half a table really cool. Let me ask you this. Let's let's Swerve here.

What There you go, that was lovely as we're heading into the holiday season Season going holiday holiday. I'll give you the holidays. Okay, what holidays? What movies do you absolutely make a point to watch every year for I can answer right now We're gonna start with Christmas none There are none for any holiday, but because I'm sorry, but there are movies around the time you're I like but I don't have traditions Well, that's what I'm talking about what you would tell I so Christmas I really if I had like a family and I said with every I would love to watch the original Grinch car Child breakfast yes, real flamations, okay?

Christmas story, okay? Yeah, Elf is a potential home alone to potential, but not as necessary as the other four gotcha Okay, what about you? Well, he listed the ones we always watch growing up. We don't we don't do that I mean we we almost never watch TV together man watch a TV what she wants don't know it Well watch when we go to bed, but we almost never sit down as a family unless every once in a while We'll have not tonight and we sit down watch TV together I used to love a lot of them.

I don't the Grinch cartoon is probably one of my favorite. Yeah, it's one of the Jim Carrey Grinch movie The cartoon is so much better than the movies fine, but it's not something adding so much more to the story that It just takes away from the story all the stuff that's added the story is simple and short It's not this long story that the movie turns it into so I don't that that would not be part of my holiday tradition And it's not something I really watch die hard. I watched die hard a lot. I know that Jim Ferrell doesn't think of it as a Christmas movie, but I like to think of it as Christmas movie.

I love die hard even though I'll do respect Jim You're wrong That's my that's my that's fairly a holiday tradition. I don't I don't anymore when man was younger we used to watch those claymation I'll rank it and bass. Yeah, and I've always loved those. I love those as a kid.

She loved those We all thought the one of those I watch and we watched all of them. They're all fun And but but Sitchi got older. She didn't watch those and so I don't watch those and so I guess we don't really have any run die hard. Yeah, that's gonna be my Christmas choice.

Yes. Let's move on to Thanksgiving. What films are good for you around? Thanks.

Mine's playing strange and automobiles. That's the only real My dad's not the family would always watch Christmas vacation. Oh, yeah I love Christmas vacation. Yeah, that was fun.

I don't like your for it. I love that movie, but I don't love comedy. It's true. Yeah I don't think so.

I got an answer, but I don't like it right now because I want to spoil my next topic. Oh I'm with you. So what about Halloween? Well the Charlie Brown Great.

I watched one on Amazon called witches night out which had the voice of Catherine O'Hara and Gilda redner It was made around 1980 and it was fun. It was that artwork where in the background You have this this beautifully rendered landscape and then every character was like a blob of color It had some kind of shape and eyes and all that but it was just Everybody it looked like they were their clothes were the same color as them. It was weird But it was really it was kind of neat. It was a cool story.

It was very late 70s. It's a lot of fun I what is your go to for Halloween since that was supposed to be it was that a good to movie or just that no I'm just talking about that Halloween is my go to I love that movie, but I think it's gonna be because I watched it I watch how they should I'll really enjoy it. Yeah, and then I watched I think it was Halloween night. I watched cabin the woods Oh, I'm gonna be moving.

I think it's gonna be my Halloween movie. That one's so much damn fun I just because it works. It's kind of like an overlord. It works on Multiple levels over the works of the war movie and as a horror movie.

Yeah, even though they have a whole lot of horror elements in it in terms of like Deaths that aren't really war related works as a horror movie and kind of what works as a core movie and as a comedy. Yeah on both levels Any Halloween movies for you? No, and the last one what movie you have to make it a point to watch every other Tuesday every other Tuesday Every other Tuesday what movie could you watch once a week? Well once every two weeks the same answer that I would have given for Thanksgiving and that was that was oh god damn it There are my stuff damn damn there are movies that I've watched many many times and it depends on my mood like Highlander I've probably watched 25 30 times.

Yeah, Zulu. I've watched which is a British war movie in 69 it was it was Michael Keynes first movie or one of his I love that shock as well or well there is a shock as you look but this is just Zulu and it was made earlier than that And it takes it's about this. It's after the British lose the battle of them is long It's long at Wanda to the Zulu's who wipe them out. Yeah, and then there's this British outpost that has like 120 people mandaricine at this basically it's a church and At a hospital and then the Zulu's after wiping out a thousand British soldiers on the slopes of Islam Wanda come to wipe them out And then the movies about how they don't get wiped out.

It's Rio Bravo. Yeah, it's all about free So yeah, it's always been one of my favorite movies from when I saw it on TV as a probably in as a 12 or 13 or something like that as a midnight movie or something like that. So Now politically speaking the Zulu's had every right to be wiping these guys out. They were invading their country And treating them like crap, but but you know, I still like the movie and it's not really about that It's about how this garrison manages to survive.

Yeah, though. There's these hundred and twenty guys are being attacked by over 4,000 zoos Yes, that's insane. So that's one of the movies that I'll watch over and over again But you know I heard I'll watch over and over again So there are movies depending on my mood that I will go to and I'll watch repeatedly Yeah, and then I won't watch again for several years. I can answer this question like I can watch Jurassic Park Yeah, okay, that's the every Tuesday every other Tuesday.

That's not the true answer But I will take that for now there was a time when I could watch Star Wars like that, but I've seen it so many times I can't do it any more myself if I want to fall asleep if I put on return of the Jedi halfway through the movie I'll fall asleep Michelle Snupp brothers the same way he can't fall asleep without a Star Wars movie plan in the background Yeah, that's just every night for him was empire Well, I can fall asleep without it, but if I put that movie on I'm definitely going to fall asleep right and that's not that I don't love the movie. I love the movie, but I've seen it too many times. Yeah Alright, Jeff. Did you answer your other dude to me?

No, he didn't. Oh, no Just for you guys. I don't have to give myself. It was a whole podcast that gave it to me.

You guys know I'm not a talk treasurer. That's right. Uh Jeff this was for you Miles Davis. Yes Dave Rubik.

Yeah Chuck Manjean. Yeah Berkeley. Yeah, just guess I'm supposed to discuss by myself These are your dad's right? You would go to Berkeley.

No, I didn't go to Berkeley with them No, but during your age of being there jazz was a big old thing jazz it well Let me say this. Yeah before I went to Berkeley I thought jazz was a dead art for because I didn't grow up doing jazz I grew up hearing rock or country music or classical music right and I went to jazz and found out that oh people still do jazz and Then I found out why people still do jazz because that's a great music It's hard to make a living at it because most people don't go out and and listen to it unless they have been introduced to jazz And they become a jazz fishing and auto There's there were bars when I lived in New York that I would go to to to listen to just jazz and yeah Sometimes you know the artist sometimes you know who they were but it's always fantastic performances and and sometimes they were restaurants You could get them you while you're listening to the different jazz jazz bands and it's it's great. So um I don't have a record of any of those four artists that you've listened to yeah And if you played each of them on them with the exception of Chuck Manjoni which you know is different jazz than the other That's more modern. That's more modern jazz.

I wouldn't be able to tell them apart, but I love I love jazz and the older I get the more I love it You know the thing that most people don't get about jazz you know They you say jazz and they their eyes roll into their heads and they think they're gonna fall asleep because they're either a thinking of cool jazz Which isn't jazz cool jazz. It's just pop that is soft pop music that is supposed to make you relax and ready But it's not jazz. There's nothing jazz about it Yeah, or they think of bebop where everybody's soloing and you lose track of the melody. Yeah, but That is what bebops about it jazz unlike any other form of music is about the artists and their um ability to create Improvisation on the fly when they're doing a song so you're so they'll play the song And this is bebop specifically about you play the song with the melody and you get the beat then you keep going through the song and each Player gets to do their solo and it's it's the improvisation and the people that Those are the people that people come to see because it's this on the fly It's a massive music It's a massive music and being able to create this amazing sound that goes with what's going on because it doesn't go with what's going on You're not doing it right so it's that's different every time because it's in the moment It's like when actors improv a scene.

Yeah, who's jazz is it that right? So that's what jazz is it's the it's like the actors improv is not Improvisation of a scene only it's the musicians improvisation of Of the music all while the the beat or the the chord structure of this sound of the song that you played in the first place It's still going on you have to stay within that chord structure You have to stay within the the harmony of the song you have to stay within the rhythm of the song I mean you can do your own thing and that's where if you really get into it you can really find this enormous Musicality that you don't get anywhere else. Yeah, and when you listen to symphony music you have great players But it's not about the players. It's about it's about the composer You know great players and great conductors can be great things are terrible things with it But it's about the it's about the composer.

Yeah, when you talk about rock music. It's more about the People think of it's usually about the lead singer and how they're and they're okay You know you have the songs, but it's really It's about the lead singer and how they're singing the hooks and being out sing the country music It's again. You have the hooks, but it's also about kind of a lifestyle Could you really go more about this country lifestyle and couple instruments and you'll get a guitar solo But you but but or film solo People talk about how great the guitar solo by so-and-so was and how great the vocals was and they may or may not know who wrote the song Even though it's the song that's giving but most the other Musicians are invisible in jazz. Nobody's invisible in jazz.

It's all about the musicians and if you have crappy song It's gonna it doesn't work. You still have to have great music, but it's it's it's what the musicians bring to each performance Which is why a recording of a jazz song will never be the same as a live performance of jazz That's why you know the music is most similar to jazz in my penis gospel because I've seen gospel in the exact same way with artists Improving on the fly piano bass guitar, but even like the vocals. Yeah, they'll never do it the same way twice You know despite my beliefs. I like I like some gospel music I've always felt like an atheist could look at the the cystine chapel ceiling and go that's a lovely piece of art There's nothing that should stop you and your belief from acknowledging a good song a good piece of art No matter what it is.

There could be a beautiful piece of satanic art Well, I have problems looking at that. I find it lovely. I've seen some nice pieces, but they're very dark But my point is you don't have to believe in something to appreciate even the architecture of St. Mosk Those are very neat look abilities.

You can always appreciate that synagogue I think that way about Catholic masses if I go to high school I disagree with theologically with something they're doing But I it's still beautiful as a work of art. Right. Right. That's why I if I'm going back to a church It'll be Catholicism just because even though I don't believe any of it I can enjoy the artistry that goes behind a Catholic mass.

It's very pretty and it's very structured If you're familiar with that and I totally left off her about her who I think most people get the they think of the Tijuana brass and they think like Tijuana taxi or Like like some of his stuff sounded like game show music right in the 70s, but her ballad You think of Merve Albert? Merve Albert. That's what I was totally wrong about her But her ballad has done some really cool jazz pieces. Yeah, they're not kitschy or he just became known for this kitschy kind of work The kind of song you'd hear before tick-tack.

No, but if you explore further in her ballad Some of this really good stuff. Yeah, he's done some really great work And he's I think he's often forgotten when you talk about the big names. Well, yeah, well, there's also I mean, there's there's the young younger generation and there's always great Musicians coming up and replacing those older ones I again because I live with Kentucky and I can't find any station that plays jazz, right? I don't listen to it as much I had a free trial for three months of Serious radio and I found that most of the time I Tended to grab a tour to the jazz station because I can't get that anywhere else and I thought go and buy it or I guess like if I did Apple Tunes radio or whatever it is I just listen to it.

I listen to it. I'm looking at my auxiliary I never think to go to YouTube's to listen to music because to me it's Listen to play at work all this and playlist after playlist on YouTube Because my my my musical background of what I usually do is it's rock oriented and classical oriented and most my rock stuff has you know has jazz harmonics and and complex chordal structures and and Complex rhythms and stuff like that but I find often when I listen to radio I'm tired of hearing the same songs like the like the classic rock I've been hearing these songs for 20 30 years I don't really want to hear them all the time and it's like they're on the same playing over and over again and And my quick see which plays a lot of new stuff as well as classic stuff It's like there I like it But it's it doesn't do what I need music to do for me anymore Which is the jazz excites my brain and yeah, yeah, and it relaxes me and excites my brain even you know you think how can it's something with all that Improvisation is something relaxing, but it is because it's it's I can listen to the music differently than when it's the verse course verse Course and with the lyrics and me tearing everything apart. Well, here's something that may surprise you I don't know a few weeks ago was the first time that I ever realized that Herbie Hancock did not just come out of the woodwork in 1984 and I thought hey There's this new artist and for all my life since like fifth grade I thought oh Herbie Hancock was the new artist and that's all the Every day that's all I thought and then I heard something from like the 60s that he had done And it was it was very much this sort of jazz thing. I went what the fuck this is Herbie Hancock I you know and then he became a folks I can deal and then he did and he drove away he drove away into the Sunset all right each of you tell me a joke okay.

Tell me a joke. I hate jokes How do you create an astronomy party? What do you call a musician without a girlfriend what? What isn't there a series of basis jokes for probably music yeah, I can give you a biology joke I wish I was a DNA heli case so I could unzip your jeans That's horrible but for some reason it springs something forward in my heart for other places Exactly that's exactly why spring so I asked this question because I was discussing with Caleb who is his comic timing is pretty spot on It's my son has incredible comic timing and I was I guess you'd call it lesson I was giving him a lesson in the two approaches to Jewish comedy are you guys familiar with this of course not okay It's something that I've studied my entire life I thought I had just studied comedy but every comedy is Jewish comedy every every thing you do in comedy has its roots up until like the 60s with national and poon when it became Judeo-Christian comedy but still that bit off of all these guys that were working the Borsh belt for years the Borsh belt the Borsh belt that's up in the pokanos from my Pennsylvania to New York the Adirondacks You have the all these guys who would go to these summer retreats like in dirty dancing and you'd see the comedian That's that's in that was a regular thing you would work your summer up and down this mountain range and a lot of these guys were Jewish because a lot of the people who live in these camps were Jewish as well and so they understood that comedy so Here's the joke that I told Caleb.

There's two ways to deliver it. I'm gonna deliver it both The first one Jeff asked me what the key to Jewish comedy is Ron. What's the key to time? That's the first one most popular one and the easiest of all right the second one is a little more difficult It takes a more learned comedian to pull this one off.

Okay, so Jared ask me what the key is to Jewish comedy Ron What is the key to Jewish comedy? It probably works better visually than it's working right now Timing yeah, that's where it is. Yeah, it is a visual joke, but they got the point with the you know multiple seconds of silence there So there's your lesson multiple seconds time multiple seconds of time. That's what they're on his moments of silence.

So Silence we have that's likely Alright name name an artwork specifically visual timing very good Nail it name an artwork that stirs you emotionally graphic art totally right now for the moment. We're doing visual Let's say painting or photograph a sculpture. Okay, you know something in the visual arts like that Or graphic art whatever, you know what I'm talking about A painting or a photograph that you saw where it just it struck you immediately and you went whole oh oh wow No, I know you're not you're dead inside I like we've talked about for the camera. I like I like landscapes.

Yeah, I like seeing the beauty of the natural world through photographs Are through landscapes that's what gets me so um so for example when we saw Halloween Yeah, there was a trailer for a movie I don't know if you guys even remember it's called free solo Yeah, I'm a rocker who climbed without ropes Yeah, one of us dangerous climbs even with ropes needed without ropes and just seeing the beauty of those mountains like that speaks to me Also, then something humans going to create well, we'll take that we'll take that since your your emotions are as um are as keen as your sense of smell I don't have a specific painting or visual thing. I do remember one time going to the the Metropolitan Museum of Art Yeah, right after I moved to New York and looking at a Salvador Dolly painting and just being kind of blown away from it And I was pointing out beaches on it to a friend of mine and the guard told me not to touch it Cuz he thought I was gonna touch it cuz my finger was so close to the paint And it would ruin the whole thing your the oils on your on your hands would ruin the paint I don't know I wasn't going to touch the paint. I think he was being a little bit overly protected, but okay, right? But anyway that I've been known to get stopped when I see a painting and just kind of be blown away by it But I can't that's only instant that I can think about the time I had and I can't even tell you which Salvador Dolly painting it was yeah, there's only two that I know of really the melting clocks I don't know I don't know I play the game I think I've mentioned this board game on the podcast for is called Masterpiece or auction Oh, yeah, but they use actual piece of art and what I like was called night Hawks.

I love that's probably gonna be mine It's so simple guys like that one well, I like it really thought yours was gonna be dogs playing poker Ah, you know for as much as I love it or big-eyed Mexican kids one of those but I'm gonna have to go with night Hawks contemporary art Night Hawks just captures a feeling yeah, it's it's these celebrities they're sure but the late night diner in Los Angeles It has a nourish feel and you can almost immediately look at that painting and understand the what you're supposed to feel yeah at that Night Hawks really start me the first time I saw there was once this is back in the 80s when I was in college or just out of college And I was in this magazine I found this ad and I think the ad was for tennis shoes Yeah, but the the young woman who was wearing the tennis shoes in the ad was sitting at a piano Just the way that it was framed with her playing the piano in these tennis shoes Yeah, I just I ripped that piece of I ripped that out of that magazine I kept it for years because I love the way I love the composition of it. Yeah, absolutely So I know it for me is a Sunday afternoon on the island of La Grande Jott. I'm not familiar with that one. You know Sonny Park with George, right?

Is that? It's not even a park. Yeah, what I always call it because I don't know anything better But I like it because it's more something the actual painting. It's pretty nice Pointless nice, you know, story night to people painting right What what prompted this is last night?

I was watching Adam Sandler's I guess you could call it a stand-up Kind of thing It's on Netflix, but it's several of his stand-up and comedy acts are really the songs and stuff like that and he followed it up really Funny stuff Adam Sandler has gotten much better with age. I know people don't like him or they think he's like I feel like some of his movies he's made for a paycheck And I think I've got to make a living but in some are awful awful awful But I do dig a lot of his I enjoyed more of his movies than not Yeah, but he finished up his set with a song dedicated to Chris Farley and that Moved me It struck me because I'm laughing I'm laughing I'm laughing and you think he's doing another song It's so funny and then he starts singing about how talented and what a good guy Chris Farley was and I teared up I became emotional listening to that song so what song has given you that emotion to what song may have made you come close to crying? I can't do the water from Pete's Dragon is another one that really hits me right in the heart every time I hear Emotions yeah, sorry Jared. I know this is not your wheelhouse Believe it or not in college there was an Amy Grant song Yeah, that was just her and the guitar and I forget the name of the song, but I used to I found that very emotional There's other songs that I've heard But I can't think of the name of anything off the top.

I'm sure there are a ton of songs that stir emotion So not gonna make me cry but we've talked about this very topic of like sporty emotion songs Yeah, and the one I mentioned I think probably then was Bolero which is the closing No, no, it's the name of the piece. I suppose it's the closing credits to Moolen Rouge. Okay. It's like a 12-minute piece There's no singing it's all instrumental But I think we have I think the answer was no, it's not but I'll play for you afterwards, okay?

We won't bother these fine people not not in the moment, but it's something about the composition It's really I find very calming and peaceful. Yeah, I think they're all myself, but the one by rebel Funny enough one of my questions on here was you have all the money in the world you ever need how do you spend your days? What we already talked about having all the time? No, it isn't the same but I was really hazardous is what you would do if you didn't have to work I think I think I would spend most of my days at Jeff's the point is I wouldn't stop creating right I had all the money in the world.

I don't think any of us would stop the creative process No, we'd have the money to pay to people to help us do it. It's it becomes it's more if you have all the money in the world It's more than just yes, you want you I don't know that I would stop teaching and that's another I would travel more in between teaching But I like what I do too much I might not take on as many extra things that I do for as a teacher as I do now Because I was nice with those but like I still want to help direct students and work with them And I still do theater and go out think my life would change other than my house would have a candy room in it Right, right. Well, most people who win the lottery get your jobs. Yeah.

Yeah, I've always heard this Or like I've got a bunch of the retirees he would like to stop because he's a teacher I have to He would like to just like moe greens and a gas Mo green and that makes me so happy And of course like he would like to like moe green is the guy that Michael Corley owned had killed at the end of the guy Mo green, but he just wants to ride the ride the lawnmower over Like I'll put his own cup of rest. I can dig that for sure. I love golf golf golf Yeah, I think my days would be spent at Jeff's house creating on the stage or in the studio something like that It doesn't stop you from being who you are. All right, these last few questions here Yeah, fruit and chocolate is it right together?

Yeah, chocolate covered strawberries or the chocolate oranges that you get I like the total orange flavor with chocolate. I like you crack and eat about I like strawberries, but I like a better covered in chocolate if they're right I think yeah, I think fruit and chocolate candle well together But the fruit has to be the right consistency and has to be the right chocolate for each fruit And that's not always the same name my father chocolate covered cherries once you see love. Oh, I love chocolate That's nice they turned out well, yeah, it was a messy process Cuz you gotta get the cream around it and then get in the chocolate and you know, so you make a cordial Oh, yeah cream not as the chocolate. How are cherries?

That's lovely. We're just dipping cherries in the chocolate This is I'm always baked stock up pick up a bit this whole series of questions here is from Royra Taylor Oh, okay, she loves the oranges. Yeah, I've been eating those every year since I was a kid I'm always one of my main christmas different flavors of Oreos is it right? Yes, she would say no she would argue although the original Oreos My least favorite I don't like the chocolate cookie.

I don't like the gold norio with the vanilla cookie. Yeah, so you don't like the reverse ones No, okay, I like the double stuff But I don't what and Rizzos are fine, but if I can't get the double stuff, but I'm with my chair I like the non chocolate ones as well, but the double stuff. I don't really want any flavor I don't want like pumpkin spice. Oh pumpkin spice Oreos the best oreo ever had though was an Oreo that was then That was then coated in Those are just amazing now I like with the fillings not gonna pump in spice like that chocolate But like a lemon one I really enjoy all the lemon one short pretend that watermelon I had argued for years over whether Oreos should come in any different flavors or be called something else If it's not chocolate cream chocolate.

Yeah, I was arguing that they are because it's the cookie brand and more was wrong During Annie she brought some she brought me a whole box of Oreo pop rocks. It sounds awful. It was it's awesome That's so good. Now there's there's peppermint bark Oreos coming out.

I will eat the hell out of them I'm okay. I love I love the Oreos now if you give me a golden Oreo double stuff man, that would have been dream Well, that sounds good too. That would be good. All right before we wrap it up I have one more question because we've already talked about snowy days and what we would do on snowy days But I wanted to re-catcher that but it's too late for all that classic video games that would have been Jared's turn to speak while Jeff I can said I played Candy Crush a little bit.

I play Candy Crush a lot Yeah, well, I was when we were talking about that the biggest thing that will take an artist away from their work video games I've between the three candy crush games that I have the candy crush candy crush soda and candy crush jelly Yeah, I've played over 5,000. Wow Candy Crush Free home console or no, let's not let's not go that far. Okay, so like what I think I was like I didn't have any console home at the line of Game Boy. Yeah, but I played some of my kids We had like asteroids.

Okay. Yeah, that's a lot of But for you, I'm I'll talk about the up to the super Nintendo I love Those two ones Cool spot It was the seven of yeah, it was a seven of low go. It was just a man how weird um, but I like a teenager Ninja Turtles turtles in time game. Love it.

I'm sure you did you were trying to tell them all about that game Yeah, I'm with that. I like the old pop-eye game It was a ton of fun that was in the arcades around Oh, yeah, I can't I can't get past the first one. Yeah, the one that kills me every time one thing is the way that works Is there's like four stages and each stage is almost impossible to get through no levels? Yeah, and then once you beat it you didn't beat it you unlock an item and you start over and you win Well, like tomorrow I could I could play fallout I could beat fallout it'd be no problem Yeah, I speak the mass actual again for the fifth or six times I've gone back to play Donkey Kong country and fuck that game.

It's one of my favorite games in the world about that game It's so hard the underwater sequences those emotionally serving in Donkey Kong. I'll actually listen to that and go to sleep But yes, this is the final question What is the hardest thing about being an artist and what is the best thing about being an artist? Well, the best thing is creating art. Yeah, um, there's there's nothing there's nothing I've ever experienced that gives me the the sense of satisfaction and joy as creating a new song, you know, yeah, sometimes the process of especially writing lyrics is this This this hard process where you're you know trying out different words and plugging into different words and finding rhymes But but the making of the music when when I start making a song Everything else disappears in time speeds by and I don't feel like I've spent any time doing something and it's four or five hours later And it's just living it's just When you're in the process of creating art Especially it's something like writing a song where you're not necessarily doing it with someone else But even especially don't know what other people it's like this magical place in time and It's just feeling complete and whole as a human being even though you're striving to do all this stuff and it's yeah, and there's nothing else Knowing nothing else makes me feel so alive or um or like myself as much.

Yeah, I'm not an artist in the same way youtube General I don't create quite like you do I'm counting down So for me my favorite parts of being a performer when I'm vulnerable And so there's no piece I've got to do that I got to that like elephant man Yeah, when I actually do elephant specifically I was such an emotional character and I had to actually get to those emotions as a human being Because again, we've clearly said I have no soul so to find that and to be able to capture that and do that Exhausted me in a way that musicals usually don't yeah, no we did it into a character We gave two day performance at elephant man and it was So tiring for me. Yeah, and I've done I've done the musicals where there's enough dancing and singing that I get that way too But I would I'm not you know, can't exactly measure it and sweat, but I kind of can't I've done shows where I They're over and I don't even remember doing them because I can autopilot my way through them Yeah, and then you do a show where you are present for everything that is happening on that stage And you are I had cities were creating but you know encompassing the story and sharing of yourself with people and there are shows I've gotten to do that and that is so special. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that I'm a middle child so the attention that we get is the best thing for me I can't give enough of it. It's it's it's very much like a drug when you get a pause and you go shit I gotta get more than applause.

I gotta I gotta get recognized as Jeff Gert is more often I like it. I want to talk about They don't you know, it's always nice and I really do appreciate people come up and say it was great It's better than this better than this and you're the best that's very sweet. Yeah, it's hard to internalize that right now when Melanie was talking the other day I thought that counted that counted this woman had seen shows on the man with us. She's from I don't know if she's from London I think she's from England.

Yeah, and I think she's from a more Urban yeah part of England, but I don't know if it's one of those she was so sweet in her In our compliments about that net some in a way that don't but what someone wants to talk about like how did you do this? How did that I would talk about that all day long? How did I how do I play this character? What are my thoughts on on you know as saying a character?

So what's the hardest thing? What's the worst thing about being an artist either a performer musician writer Finding a way for other people to experience it Because you know it I spent years after I got out of college writing songs I had didn't have enough money to buy the equipment to record them even on a four-track recording So you know, I'm writing songs and I can't send them to anybody to sell them Writing songs I have trying to figure out how to put a band together to go out and perform these songs That that to me was always the hard part like how do I then I get other people Interested in doing this art with me. So it's it's this lonely process There are times even now when there's nothing I want more than just to have a group of other musicians around to be able to get together with those musicians and perform And then go out and perform as musicians in a band creating music and I don't have that and I don't see anywhere that that's going to come And so I have to be my own band, which is not something I that is not my strongest suit And yet, you know Finding so I guess creating the opportunity and finding the people to do the art with bring the art to life Other than it just being Creating something by yourself. It's great all kinds of stuff by yourself, but it's it's not complete until it's someone else has Experienced the art that's the thing with art.

You don't do it. No art It's just does it because they like drawing pictures or creating songs and just even them do themselves It's part of an expression that needs to be experienced by somebody else Finding a way to do that when we get to roe because it was fantastic although it's the is the most It was the most stressful thing I've ever grown up. It was really but it was a it was a completion of the process In a way that a lot of my stuff isn't because I had audiences to respond. Yeah, it reminds me of the work cliche And it's just it's never good enough.

Yeah People may enjoy my performances, but I can't right I'll there's never and you and you and you and Aaron have both Aaron Taylor both talked to me a lot about like Accepting It's just accept the salaries right and I will never be able to do that Yeah, I will never my performance will never be good enough for me. Well, that's great Again, this is not quite the same as when you were actually the one who's creating something But that's where I will always be as a former. Yeah, I think the worst thing one of the worst things for me. I think is um you I often feel misunderstood or or there's there are those folks who go well, I know you I've known you for years and you don't You don't know who I am you personally have no idea why I'm you've seen me play these characters And then I go to the dressing room and then afterwards you tell me a great job And that's the end of our relationship, but because they've spent so much time with you Yeah, they feel like you know, I guess that's not a terrible thing But it often leads to misunderstandings of of of you're this kind of person and I'm not I'm not social.

I don't I'm not outgoing. I like going home and be about myself and play a video game And I'm doing podcast with you doing podcast with minimum people in a basement In a secluded suburb with other people who like to go home and hang out Yes, and that's that's me. I'm a homebody, but boy. There's just misconceptions about actors all over the place They have to be extroverts.

They have to be outgoing. They have to know I don't know There are people who fit those stereotypes. We just like those people Well, it's also the different right the other thing that I would say that's That is hard about being an artist of any kind is the difficulty in Being able to make a living doing it. Oh, that's there are people at the very top who make all the money Right.

There are people close to the top that might make a living but they're working their asses off Right, and then there's everybody else who's working their ass off and not getting paid anything or getting paid not enough to replace a job Yeah, yeah, I made my best year. I made $750 for that year That was the highest I ever made usually it was between 750 to 500. You can't raise a family on that You know, it's good hobby money, but other than that you can't make a living Yeah, and yeah, people still expect people to do that because they want the art right Right, they want you to give them the art, but they don't want to pay for it Well, and you're putting in so much time. Yeah, that's another thing is nobody sees the the actual amount of work Even your other actors don't see all the work that you put into it I do a shit ton of work at home when I'm doing a role And that's not just learning lines.

That's trying to figure out the character figure out where I'm gonna go with it Physicality or the investment in the investment into it I've got thousands of dollars invested in this equipment that I spent over the years in order to be able to make music that I could then share with Right, and that's taken for granted the time and the time and money we put into what we do is taken for granted often Speaking of the art that we do. Yeah, we are all involved in Sherlock Holmes a study in Scarlet That is going to be going on in January that we just started the process and I think we're all quite pleased with And it's show I think it's gonna be really good. It will be up there Um It will be just a lot of talent involved until we'd love for you to make it out for that again That'll be in January if you have any questions about that let us know if you have any thoughts on any of our topics That we talked about that we covered a lot of ground today. Yeah, many different things Music arts lots of food holidays traditions the fun stuff what your dream house would be like that would grab egg It's sort of like it's sort of like we got random almost like we have topic like the wild cards get off topic Uh something like that.

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