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AHHH! Your dreams will die. Welcome to the wildcard podcast. I'm your host, Jared Eaton, and my co-pilots on this journey to wherever are my good friends, Jeff Curtis.
Hello. And the flag-waving xenophobic, jingoistic, patriotic, mask out of the podcast, Ron Blair. Happy birthday, America! Well, it is.
It is the Fourth of July, this time in which we celebrate hotdogs and eating them as quickly as possible. So I just want to ask you all, what are your thoughts on Fourth of July? Is there a memory or something you associate with? Is this a holiday union family celebrate regularly?
I celebrate as much as any other American, which is setting off fireworks and having a cookout, not to commemorate the freedom of our country, because who thinks about that anymore? I really just do it because I really like hotdogs and fireworks. So yes, I will celebrate every year, because I'm free to celebrate every year without putting any thought into why I'm celebrating, like, every other American. Yeah.
I like fireworks, but I generally avoid where they're being shot off, because I don't like crowds. I understand. When I lived in Boston, I never once went to the fireworks being fired off from the Esplanade, because I didn't want to be crushed by all the other people around. When I lived in New York, I never went anywhere near the fireworks.
The only time I ever watched them was when I had friends who had gone on the roof of their building, we'd watched the fireworks, and they were a nice show, and I wasn't going to stand in the park with several million of my cousins and friends just to watch the fireworks. And you'd have to get there in the morning and then use port-of-potties and reserve your space by having to fly in other people. And there's a lot of problems. And I like fireworks, and I like firecrackers, but I've never lived someplace where I could fire them off at will.
And so it's like I drive past all these tents where you can buy these fireworks and firecrackers. I want to go in. I want to buy like $100 worth of them. Oh, yeah.
But you see where I live. I'm surrounded by trees. I can't do that. I can't do that.
And I've got elderly neighbors on every time I have my house. I can't shoot off a whole bunch of firecrackers just for the fun of it. No, they check their pants. We're hard at that.
Keep the ones that's not really going to build their heart out. So I'd like to do all these celebratory things if I could do it without a lot of people around me and in my own space. Now, in your youth, when you look down in Colorado, did you celebrate all the year round? We did.
We didn't send out fireworks all the time. When I was growing up, my parents would get this sparkler thing until I was like, about 10, they started letting us buy firecrackers and stuff like that. And we blew up all kinds of things year round. But we never had fireworks themselves that we shot off.
But we built S- You get a Roman candle or a bottle rocket, but you wouldn't get the ones in the tubes that you lit them through. The good fireworks. I would say when I was young, we didn't do a whole lot of celebrating this. And I'm at a disadvantage because I'm not the biggest firework fan and I don't enjoy hot dogs.
I don't like to take a fan. But I will say we did shoot out fireworks occasionally. And mostly for us, it was this yearly celebration we had to celebrate the most important thing in the year, which isn't the freedom of our country. But it's the end of the school year.
So what we would do is nobody Jordan McKinley and I would go out and we would go shopping. And we would spend like one to two hundred dollars a hour. A lot of things were like buy one, get one free, and we'd pool one for the year. And then we'd buy two of everything and go and we had this lake we would always go camping at.
And we would just create our own display. It was always fun. Because what better is it to celebrate than I don't have to do this crap anymore. And one thing I was very proud of, probably the most diligent I've ever been in my life, was not throwing away high school stuff.
But saving everything to the end of the school year and then mass burning it. Olderists, notebooks, tests, sometimes textbooks, burning those things. That's beautiful. I enjoyed that.
And I guess to be slightly more serious, it always interests me when we come to this time of year, we celebrate our country. Whether it be today or more or everything like that. And I get to thinking about the people you identify with that holiday. The stereotype of people who like love these holidays, who talk about freedom and fighting for country.
And I respect that a lot. But it seems to me that a lot of us who are celebrating freedom are the ones who want to deny it from some other people. Couldn't agree more. Who are like celebrating our country and it's freedom and all the things that people have given their lives for.
But if anyone disagrees with their way of living, let's take their guns away or ones to love whoever they want to love. They don't deserve that freedom. Right. And we could go on an enormous hand.
We don't have to. But I just can't talk about the dialogue about thinking that those soldiers who have given their lives, he ever less than we could be free. And when you think back to England and the people who became Americans left there, they left because religion was being forced on. And even though they wanted a different religion, it was still about that religion they wanted freedom.
They really wanted to go to a place where they could live the way they wanted it. And that's what our country should be. That's what makes our country great. Well, there are two lines of thinking there.
There are two lines of thinking there. There's, you know, I want the country to be free. Or I want the country to be free to follow my rules. The ones that I want to instill on people.
And that line of thinking I can't judge at all. I enjoy freedom. I don't need you to tell me what to do morally. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Morally. Yeah.
People who think that their freedom is diminished by other people suddenly having the same freedom. Yeah. That's ridiculous. Freedom.
It's just because someone uses their freedom to express their values which are different than yours. Doesn't mean that your freedom is being at risk. Right. Well, you see a lot of paranoia from the other side.
I would say. We're always trying to take something away from a religious freedom. If you're a white Christian male, you don't understand what oppression is. It's just not something we can even imagine.
So the idea that anyone is taking a freedom away from a white Christian male is a joke. And since I've got all three of those boxes, I feel like I can talk about that. Yeah. And I think that if you're a white agnostic male, I'm not too far off the beaten right there of being privileged to not understand oppression the way most people do, most minorities do, at least in this country, which is bad.
And you may not see it around here. And I think people are close minded because they rarely leave these little provincial areas. But once you go to the city and see where hundreds of people are living in poverty and without freedom and whatnot, it can really change your perspective. You know, we're open minded about giving people a chance when you've seen how bad they suffer when you don't give them a chance.
Absolutely. Well, that was the portion of the podcast. When we like to talk about ourselves. It's tough on us.
And so this is the favorite portion of the podcast. Or I ask you guys about your favorite something and you just reveal your truest nature. My favorite political conversation is. We've had enough of that for the day.
Half the podcast listeners have tuned out. So here's the question today. What is your favorite meal? And I don't mean that to say, I like this food and I like this food.
I mean, like a memory of a meal you eat that you will never like, it will always be that's the meal. Man, I've had so many good ones. Here you go. I had Jeff on the chicken.
There's this, I had, there was this meal that I had at this Indian restaurant in Montreal when Joe and I went there dating when we were dating before we were engaged and stuff like that. And it was so freaking good. I don't remember what we ate. But the meal was so delicious.
And we went back and then I had it again and it was just as delicious. But I have no idea. I have no freaking idea what it is I ate. And I've eaten Indian food before.
But this was, there was something exquisite about this. It was amazing. It was flavorful. And I have no idea.
I'll never have it again because I don't know what I had. Can I have this thing I have years ago please? Right. I can't tell you what it is.
But it was gray and it was delicious. It was, and it was in Montreal which I don't know. But that's, we're talking about memories of favorite meals. That was one of my favorite meals and I always remember it.
Do you think when you go up there they'll be like, Poutine, you had the Poutine. It's just for my family. You are crazy for coming in here. What is wrong with you?
I don't think they'll do that. Probably not. And then they'll smoke a cigarette. Hello.
What would you like to eat today? I have French France and Granny V with cheese cards. I was saying no. It was an Indian reference.
They weren't speaking French. They're in Montreal. French, Canadian. It was Indian.
And being American today I'm free to be as racist as I want to be. Because you are literally every living. Exactly. Stereotypes.
I am a picky eater. Which is shameful to say. But it's true. I've gotten so much better than I was no younger.
But I remember that. I think I've even told the story about how we graduated high school. You know what I mean? We had this guy we all kind of landscaping for who was incredibly wealthy.
The basement of his house. It's bigger than every house I would have. And we do a lot of clean out things for him. He told us when you're in Colorado, you're going to go to this specific restaurant I'm going to pay for it.
And we're like I'm going to figure out how to pay for food. I can't tell you the name of the place. I remember we walked in and I instantly felt like I don't belong here. There's probably some Jean shorts, a t-shirt and some tennis shoes.
And you feel like you cross the threshold and everyone is here who's not allowed. And all their next crane and eyebrows raised. We got there and the menu was smaller than I used to. Because it was like here's what's good.
Here's the five things I'm going to cook for me. I'm looking at it and I'm like oh my these things I can't handle this. So I ended up trying duck for the first time. And it was a duck with a rum sauce and a cherry glaze.
And I had a cold soup. I've never heard of a rhubarb or a cold soup before. And I'm like this is so weird and everything was glorious. I had duck in there that was so incredible.
My other friend said food. I don't know what was on the plates. I was too busy focusing on mine. And the four of us had a bill.
Without alcohol. We had one appetizer and four meal. It was over $300. Holy goodness.
And we didn't pay for it. Ever like skid. Dropping this part on the table. It was not only how good the food was but it was the iron paper.
That made it so much more fantastical. That's beautiful. We like to cook a lot at our house and watch cooking shows. So we pick up stuff.
My mother she didn't specialize in lasagna. Whenever I would come home off the bus and walk on the front door to some Elle lasagna I'd be like oh it's the greatest day. So you're a girl field. Yeah.
As I was growing up I was like I'm totally going to have lasagna. It's my favorite food at the time. And it's still up there. So when I, you know Michelle and I got married and moved out on our own.
I probably wanted to cook five or six years. Only eating lasagna at my parents house which I then was not very often. And so I said I know how to make this. I started making my own lasagna and now I put it up against almost anybody's around here.
I make a mean lasagna. Some of our friends can attest to it. I like to eat with Emily Kohler and Dick Richardson from time to time. And cook.
I like to cook for people. Except for you guys. Because you're picky and your food is probably better than you. You're wife Joe probably cooks better than I can.
So that's fine. And I also made shawarma once. Oh wow. It was a beef shawarma.
What's the reason? It's a mill-eastern dish. Milly-eastern. It's seasoned beef, usually it's seasoned chicken.
I don't have a grill so it wasn't grilled but it was, I had this beef shoulder or what not in the, or roast in the crock pot. I hope the audience can hear Jeff before he's beverage right now. Because we aren't just like all urinating. That comes later.
I'm actually urinating right now but it's not making noise. Wrong time. Sorry sorry about that. But anyway.
So I had it in the crock pot and I cooked it overnight with certain seasonings that were, and then I would put it in the oven and put some olive oil on it. What an extra virgin. It was extra virgin olive oil. It was pricey and delicious.
And it crisped up the outside very nicely and then I would pull that and then we would use sak-siki sauce. That's close to the right position. Yeah. What is it?
Sakiki. And that was homemade as well. That was probably one of the best meals I've ever had. I used to cook a little bit of college without a room.
I would cook chicken caramas on everything. Now I cook by myself so I don't ever cook. But I do bake. And so I like to bake.
I make some lemon cookies recently. Oh, that's not lemon cookies. I made my own lemon. I sang my zested lemon zested.
I'm not good at that. I'm good with meats and vegetables. I'm not good at all. Because you're not good at all.
With cooking it's the science. It's the science. It's the science. It's the science.
It's the science. I made a caramel balandi with butterscotch. I made my own salted caramel sauce for the alamory cast. Yeah, baking requires you to live within parameters and use exact measurements.
Whereas if you're cooking meat or vegetables you can just boom boom boom boom. I accidentally made salsa. It tasted like salsa and it was delicious. It was just a vegetable medley cooked down with a knuckle.
What could you recreate? I was thinking about we're growing jalapenos right now. We planted an herb garden. We planted an herb garden.
Everything you have in black. It's on a window cell. It's portable. It's one of those little jars.
It's actually mckincy. It's grown. I'll be making more salsa very soon. A little salsa.
It was delicious. I feel like if you learned about us and our nature, we'd definitely like to eat out in Canada. I mean Colorado and Ron likes to cook. That's a good wisdom.
We're going to transition into today's topic. Before I ask the question about today's topic. The pre-question before we even talk. This question will not lead to the topic.
No hints. It is. That's exactly what it is. The only grille is here.
I'm not sure. Here's my question for you all. What are your fears? Do you have any irrational fears?
I don't know that my fear of heights is irrational though. I can be under all of your culture. If I were on the side of a cliff though, I'd ship my pants. I'd get vertigo and all that.
If I were in an unrestrained high area or a six foot ladder. It really gives me a little vertigo. I've got love heights. I have an irrational love heights.
If I'm buckled in, I'm far with them but otherwise not. That leads to something where there's actual danger. It's mostly like cholera phobia. That is cholera phobia.
Fear of clowns. Oh yeah. Mackenzie has a... A lot of people do.
It's a very common fear now because you'll see a creepy picture. Well it was my fault. I've watched a lot of horrible scary movies when she was very young. Between poltergeist and it, I think she really developed a big old fear of clowns.
Great performance. I don't think any of my fears are right now. I don't think any of my fears are right now. I have fears that would be a matter of nothing.
I don't think you ever think you're on fear because you're like, even if those people's fears of spiders is ridiculous, mine is not. That's not the one to. I'm afraid of death. I think that's irrational.
I think that's rational. Some people are afraid of like type spaces. Some people are afraid of like type spaces. Some people are afraid of that.
She's a basket case. I've failed miserably. I've gotten older. I get the more I dislike like touching things and getting dirty.
I don't think I'm a germ... It's not because of the germ. It's because of the texture. I don't like sticking things on my hand.
I don't like having dirty. I don't like having dirty. I don't like eating jello pudding. I don't like putting the texture.
I don't like the texture of pudding. I don't know why, but it's that smooth creamy... Can I just like sticking into it and going slopping around? I think where the spear came from is like when man was first learning how to eat solid food, so you'd mush up all this food and you'd be the baby and then it starts coming out of their mouth and then you'd be like bangs.
You know it's going to get on you or your clothes or the floor. Then I used to feed her yogurt and she'd make this yogurt face with a yogurt face. It's like I got to the point where there'd be these yogurt bangs and I'd feel like I was going to vomit. It's like oh my god.
So I guess maybe that's a rational answer. I love that. Maybe if you're a vomit. I don't know if I'm a beer.
I just don't want it on me. I hate vomiting worse than anything. I'll hold it on. I don't like vomiting, but I don't like vomiting.
I don't like vomiting. I don't like vomiting. I'm embarrassed to be like they're going to make them feel like that. Right.
Well the smell of other people's vomit will make me want to vomit, but that's more of a beer. That's not beer thing. That's a bit of a bad. It's like the yogurt bangs.
I think that's a reason. Well there is a lot of the reason for some of the vomit makes you want to vomit and it's one of the reason our vomit is because it thinks it's been poisoned. So I get car sick and the car sick is your body sees coming at it, things going at certain speed or slowly, but if you look at the side it looks like a world rushing past you. So your brain can't understand why it's receiving such a different sensory input.
So it makes you throw up to get rid of what the toxin assumes is poisonous. So the smell is one else vomit. We're hearing that vomit. Maybe linked to this we've been poisoned.
So you need to get rid of what's inside of you too. It's a matter of response. Interesting. So for me I would say I have gotten a fear of migraines.
When I get one I'm afraid it's going to happen again like so. It freaks me a little bit. I'm also and this is going to be like bushy. I don't think I'm a rational.
The other one I've got is fear of disappointing people. That's a big one for me. Yeah that's a natural response for an overachiever. You are even an underachiever like me.
I'm always I don't want to disappoint. I'm not afraid of public speaking or public performance but my goodness auditions make my test go shrink up. A lot of people feel auditions terrible. I'm not afraid of auditions.
I used to be. I don't know. I don't know if I had the opportunity to perform. I get to perform.
You could like it or not like it. I've done so many auditions and I'm like well I'm going to get it or not in either way. I don't want my time with something. Even if I don't get a role, I will build a time.
There will be entertainment. It's always going. That's a good discussion. Something I enjoy talking to my kids about fear and how it's healthy and in many ways the fears of people have even irrational ones are to protect you.
It's a subconscious way to protect you from things that could hurt you on the other things. There's a fear in place to protect you from things that might be out in the dark. Today's topic relates to fear in a way and there's a lot of fear surrounding you. We're going to be talking about.
in the realm of horror. As we as we experience this as we go through this together, I kind of want to keep this idea up here in the back of our heads. So here is the question leading into today's topic. Oh, I'm thrilled.
Which building constructed in 1910 and expanded to its current size and location in 1926 is sometimes called Death's Home Address and the Mount Everest of haunted places? Is it way really? It is way really old. It is way really old.
It's way up in Valley Station, Valley Station Kentucky. Are you familiar with this, Jeff? I've never heard of this. It is the most haunted place in America for those who believe.
And sometimes said the world. And the world, yeah. What about people who don't believe in ghosts? And it's still a cast of books.
At minimum, it's spooky. It is a spooky place. I'm going to skip it too. But it's an interesting place.
Whenever I've been up there, I get this feeling of my gut that I shouldn't be up there. And I used to work in the haunted house business for several years. And the owner of the haunted house that I worked at ended up taking over Waverly when they first started doing haunted houses. And so I went up there to visit it.
And I had parked in a place, I guess it was a normal parking place, but we kind of got lost. Michelle and I walking around the building. So we ended up going behind the building where there was nobody and it was very dark. And we were walking along the curve of it with this five story building looming over us.
And it felt like a mile that we were walking past this place. And it was just, I was waiting for something to pop into one of the windows or something. And I tried to look to the ground most of the time because I don't want to see it. Like, I don't believe in ghosts, but that's because I don't have a reason yet.
And so I don't be proofing that I'm wrong. I'm okay with just being wrong without knowing. So Waverly Hills Sanatorium was a tuberculosis hospital in Louisville. So what we're going to do to start out with is we're just going to talk a little bit about what tuberculosis is.
And then we're going to go into what sanatorium was going to work highly or established on the country before we get to the specific one. So I want to talk about tuberculosis. Black lung. Okay.
No, black lung is the disease. Now there were a lot of the white leg, the white leg. The white leg was from asbestos. I mean, no, that's from that's from that's something else.
Yeah. So there's a lot of little other than red death was, yeah, was it? Yeah, this was for a certification. There were a lot of names for this.
I might go to quite a few of them. But tuberculosis is an infectious disease caused by the bacterium, mycobacterium tuberculosis. So the name comes from the bacterium. It generally affects the lungs, but can also affect other parts of the body.
Most infections do not have any symptoms in which case it is known as the late type of tuberculosis. About 10% of late infections progress to active disease, which if left untreated kills about half of those infections. Tuberculosis is spread through the air when people who have active TB in their lungs cough, spit, speak or sneeze. So I'm just from that information there.
We realize that it is not very communicable. And those who get usually don't get the disease. So keep that in mind as we move forward. Diagnosis of active TB is based on chest x-rays as well as microscopic examination and culture of body fluids.
Diagnosis of latent TB relies on the skin test or blood. You've probably had the skin test before in a physical or something. I don't know if I'm getting that one as a kid. Treatment requires the use of multiple antibiotics over a long period of time.
But antibiotic resistance is a growing problem with increasing rates of multiple drug resistant strains of tuberculosis. So it is becoming a bigger problem and it had kind of been removed from active infection. And it's still a problem now? It is actually.
I wasn't aware. I thought it was like polio where pretty much everybody was. One third of the world's population is thought to be infected with spurt. One third.
New infections occur in about one percent of the population each year. In 2014 there were 9.6 million cases of active TB which resulted in 1.5 million deaths. That was 2014. More than 95 percent of those deaths occurred in developing countries.
Though the number of new cases each year has increased since 2000, about 80 percent of people in many Asian and African countries test positive while 5 to 10 percent of people in the United States population test positive to birth your own test. So those 95, 80 percent, 5 to 10 percent United States positive tests are the least. So not necessarily having any symptoms or being in a danger at all. But having the bacteria inside of you.
And there's only 5 to 10 percent. In the United States. Oh god bless America. We're doing well.
But even in those other countries those Asian and African countries where there's 80 percent test positive it may not be your invasion of dying. It may not be the danger of dying. But that's not the focus of this podcast. It's not the current state of the world.
We want to look at the mostly late 1800s early 1900s. It's kind of the range of time period we're going to be into that. Okay. When they would bleed you leeches.
Well leeches were solving any problems. They would shove your head in ice water to get the demons out. How far back are you going? I mean leeching was in that time you were believed to have bad spirits inside of you.
I think I'm a bird. You set them on fire. You set to Birkinland's fire. I don't agree to disagree.
I feel like I'm correct. You're wrong. By the dawn of the 19th century the disease that the ancient Greeks called consumption had killed one out of every seven people who had ever lived. And in the 1800s it caused nearly 25 percent of all deaths.
Can we mess with the statistics that would say six out of one Greeks were really lucky. I suppose you did. Or six out of seven. Whatever.
Five out of six Greeks. How insane are those statistics. That's amazing. Not a lot of people to ever die of that.
And this specific computer won every four people die of that. Can you imagine the fear? Because you don't see it coming. It's an invisible.
You don't understand what's going on. The play is very focused. Yeah but it was not a one period of time. It was just that time of history.
It was happening. It only killed 50%. It only killed 50% of them. It's not one quarter of them.
You're talking about the baddest 25% lasting. It's us. Talk about Spanish flu to that pandemic. That was insane.
It was also known as the wasting disease. These names consumption wasting disease came from the amaciation hacking bloody coughs and fatigue suffered by the victims. No I don't think that's right. I think it's called the wasting disease because you would waste your time on the balcony just reading a book getting fresh air.
That's the it. Which was a treatment for tuberculosis. That was a treatment for tuberculosis. I know.
It's one thing you said. They would be reading a F Scott Fitzgerald or Henry James. As the sufferers cough themselves to death. They would lose significant weight and their appearances would look as though their bodies were caving in themselves.
So the skin clings of the bone and eyes bulging out a lot of that amaciation caused it to be called consumption which is a pretty common name. It consumes the body. I wonder how long it would take for the two of us to cough our lungs out before we would look like we were wasting away. Let me put it to you this way.
I'm not afraid of tuberculosis. By the time tuberculosis eats me, I'll have lived my course. I can give the finger as I'm going out. So good.
Yeah screw you world. I was tough enough to survive it. One thing that was hard for people to understand during this time period in the late 1800s is that tuberculosis was no respecter or persons. It wasn't just a poor people disease.
Right. Anybody could. It didn't favor young or old or rich or poor and no one knew who would be the next in their town to come down with the disease or how long they would have. Yeah.
So the fear was running rampant. The disease was initially thought to run in families or be caused by bad air could be pollution or the industrial revolution. All these things kicking ash and soda from the air probably was causing this lung disease. Or minor demons in the body setting the balance of the humans.
Yeah. I studied barber and Dr. Rhee at one point. So I know somebody calls it Dr.
Rhee. Somebody calls it Dr. Rhee. I've got both.
That seems to be an image DMO. Yeah. Image D? Image D?
Image D? Image D? Yeah. You wouldn't understand.
You wouldn't understand. Oh, he doesn't have to be S. I have a doctorate in the S. Yeah.
PhD, Poly I think the problem with human nature is we resist trying new things. So we're going to know that burning the bodies will not get rid of tuberculosis while they're alive. Burn them alive. Then chest them.
There you go. Yeah. Problem solved. This is not brain surgery.
But no longer is pollution or genetics causing a problem only for the individual afflicted with the disease. Now the individual with tuberculosis is the danger for the entire community. And therefore prejudice intensified towards the infected. Yeah.
What do you do? What do you do? Well, these Irish people are looking obviously you can't take the cracker barrel. Everybody else a cracker barrel.
And there's enough things that you might pick up a cracker barrel without going take your nose and breath. I would say it's a safe bet that 1890 cracker barrel wasn't a solution to the problem. Oh, probably not. Although what is a cracker barrel?
Is it a barrel filled with crackers like the crackers you leave? Or is it the redneck crackers that you know such and such a cracker down the river? No, it's not that. No, it's not.
It's they used to store crackers to keep them fresh in barrels before yeah. Yeah, before plastics and all that where you can mold a wrapper you would keep the crackers in a barrel to keep the moisture out. How many crackers do you have that can fill it out? I mean, yeah, I could eat a salty as fast as anyone I would put myself in salty eating contest.
Did they talk about Andrew Jackson having the Wheel of Cheese in the White House where people would take cheese and then they would come and talk? It was really steering the rest of the state. I get this part of a state. I'm not a mess.
No, you're pulling out of the house. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The West Wing. So it had to be turned.
Yeah, you're in sort of a shit. So yeah, you would stop the cracker barrel, get a couple crackers, you'd go to the White House, shave off some cheese. And that's like a meal. That's you know, minor.
I first landed cracker barrel, the term from the music man. Because during the summer, in Rock Island, yes, cracker barrel flew out the window with the mail packed plug, saw it at the line. Yeah, made it pretty tough for a travel and salesman made it pretty hard. And Meredith Wilson made it pretty tough for the actors performing Rock Island.
Candyman D'Hoorer is a word of support. And I did know it cracker barrel was then. And I'm still not sure everyone would go back to crack. Well, that's what a cracker barrel is.
When they go bad before you ate a whole barrel of crackers, because it's the lid seals it in tight. It's like a Ziploc bag. That's a big old barrel. Yeah, it's a big old barrel.
I almost did this for cracker barrel though. I like the general sort. Yeah, because you can find some amazing candy and sodas in those channels. That's true.
That's true. And of course, it passes the whole thing. I actually do enjoy even though once in a while. I've never gotten tuberculosis or anything like that.
Thank goodness for that. What do you normally get though? I usually just get the burger with you. See, that's safe.
I've got the country fried steak there, which I get in a lot of places and it left me wanting to chicken. That's what I got. That's what I got in a lot of places. I don't like it's on the bone, doesn't it?
No, no, I haven't had that. That's right, chicken. Now we're going to be honest. You know what's really the breading?
It's worth the breading than anything. It was just the end. And there was a lot of breading in that lot of meat on it. Now, I almost tried to fish because I'm a big fish guy.
And I did. And I should have gone to fish maybe. I'm going to do that. Well, fish is a risky proposition in a new restaurant where you've never had a fish.
But it would have been the worst in the chicken. Yeah, crack a barrel with just so mediocre. They're chicken and dumplings with people rave over. Okay.
I've got like a little tiny bone in it or whatnot. And I just turn me off right there. It's dumplings. No, dumplings have bones in nature.
Yeah, it was horrible. Yeah, I'm always disappointed by their biscuits. I get the biscuits. Okay, these are great.
I like biscuits. You know where you want me to see them. Waverly Hills. Popeyes.
Popeyes. That's true. Speaking of Popeyes. What do you do with these people who are inflicted?
Oh, Jeff, do your jingle. You're jingle. You're jingle. But bearable at the cracker bear roll.
There you go. And now we got that. Now we got that. And jingle.
I'm going to crack a barrel. I'm sure they'll take that off. I feel like I'm going to free mediocre meal for this plot from cracker bear roll. I should have loved it.
It's terrible, but bearable. We've got to go with that on their own. That's nice. And has a version of the commercial where she goes, it's terrible, but bearable like the cracker bear roll.
It works for anything. So so multitudinal. So cracker bear early in the after-y. So what do we do with these people infected with tuberculosis?
We come. You've got to take them somewhere. We should have gone fire while they're shooting the bag. Kill them all.
That was something. We can't have them infecting the telephone. That's true. I would say that's true.
I don't know. Do we send them to a sanitary of ceterics? I think in the woods somewhere deep in the woods. So a sanatorium is a term for a medical facility for a long-term illness most typically associated with treatment of tuberculosis in the late 19th and 20th century prior to discovery of antibiotics.
The rationale for these facilities was that before antibiotic treatment existed, a regimen of good rest and good nutrition offered the best chance that the sufferers immune system would wall pockets of pulmonary TB infection. Hence wasting away. So you go to this facility not so much they would treat you for the things actually killing you but that you would be exposed to better air. And there were examples of people going to these and getting better just from being outside the cities.
There was some in the Adirondacks where some people would go and they would just be out in nature and they would start to feel better. I don't know if it was placebo. I don't know if it was the body was reporting itself. I don't know if it was the food.
I don't know what it was but there were some examples of these. So these started popping up all across the country. Well if you picture yourself at Waverly Hills, it's beautiful. I'm sure from the upper deck you couldn't see.
Oh yeah. There was no development back then. So you've got all these forest, all that surrounding you. It would have been gorgeous.
Back then. Kind of periodistical except for you coughing up blood. I'm going full tilt here buddy. I'm going I'm using $50 words today.
The check is due. I'm going to go for this. It's going to be sketchy on that part and I apologize to our Polish listeners. But in 1863, Herron Bremmer opened the Bremmer stupid.
Hey, what's up for a loon-goon trunk. You're doing good. I went for it. Yeah.
It was now Poland for the 3rd and 4th of 1863. The first like sanatorium for this. Patients were exposed to plentiful amounts of high altitude, fresh air and good nutrition. Yeah.
Yeah. The Adirondack Cottage Sanitarium established in Saranac Lake, New York in 1885 with the first such establishment in North America. In the early 20th century, tuberculosis sanatorium became common in the United States. Tens of thousands of Americans journeyed all across the country in search of a new safe haven to isolate themselves from the disease or try to cure someone already infected.
And there were kind of two schools of thought with the where is the safe place. Some people believe like mountain air. I also do with the best places. Some people believe dry air.
When he was in the desert. And Arizona was like the haven. This is where not call it. He went right.
Sure. He had tuberculosis. Okay. I promise.
I believe you. I believe you. I got an email from him. He said he was updating you on this.
So in the early 1900s, Arizona's sunshine and dry desert air attracted many people called lungers. Lungers? The lungers invasion of people. Yeah.
Arizona lungers. Which was their trisolite team for a while. It reminds me of people who go to the Hamptons during the summer. They have an name for them called the idiots.