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The Wild Cards Want to Believe

from The Wild Card Podcast · host Ron Blair, Jeff Curtis, and Jared Eaton

Welcome to The Wild Card Podcast!  Here's an excellent episode from the archives! This is episode 2 of our attempt at this whole podcasting thing.  Today's episode features Jared Eaton, Jeff Curtis, and Ron Blair discussing such varied topics as: humanoids, the greatest conquerors, whether or not one of us could beat a werewolf in a fight, and, on rare occasions, we part from our tangents to discuss UFO sightings and theories.  Join us on this journey to wherever and enjoy our Intergalactic Podcast!  It's outta this world!

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This episode of The Wild Card Podcast is brought to you by Lee's Chicken. Lee's Chicken. It's better than getting kicked in the nuts. We're Lee's Chicken.

Welcome to The Wild Card Podcast. I'm your host, Jared Eaton, and my co-pilots on this journey to wherever are my good friends Jeff Curtis. Hello. And the inventor of an anadimself, Ron Blair.

Gotta be here! Clavin'! And that's us. Still podcasting somehow.

It is great to back it's been a while since I started laughing and I just want to thank you guys, gentlemen, for doing this with me and for any of our listeners who, uh, you know, decided to try this again. So happy to be here. So happy that somebody's listening. After our first deep-fried podcast, we'll talk about we do it again.

Last time we did this, we tried to explain to our listeners what the podcast was going to be. And we're still figuring it out for ourselves. But essentially, if you're listening to us, we're here to have a conversation about stuff. To bring a topic or topics and bring our senses of humor and our senses of curiosity and whatnot to act this topic and find out more about it.

So Jeff Curtis is going to be bringing the topic today. But before he begins that, I thought it would be fun. It's a good looking but. Or we get into that.

I thought I would introduce a little new segment. And it's essentially last week we named our favorite fried chicken places. I went one through five. It was glorious.

Ron, he had some favorite chicken places. I've tried Popeyes since then and I've now decided to knock that directly out of third place into oblivion and then put Popeyes in the third place behind a Zaxby's KFC and then Popeyes and then Lee's and Chick-Layer still at the bottom where they belong. So and Jeff being our resident on the front chicken expert. I was a vegetarian for 20 years.

So I thought you're changing off the great success of us naming our favorites. I would introduce our name your favorite segment. Once a week I'll bring a topic and I'll introduce our name your favorite and you've just got to be able to talk about whatever it is. So I thought I would start off easy this week.

Sure. Thank God. So first I want you to name your favorite conqueror. Oh, okay.

I'm not going to color it or let it or number but no. Name your favorite conqueror. I like Napoleon's classy. Okay.

He's classy. He's classy. He's classy. He's kind of like Charlemagne.

Well no classy. He's French. The thing about Napoleon is though he had that power. He was a dictator.

He was there. He was a nice guy. He fed the people. And all that.

He was decent. He was a decent dictator. Except winning with a dick. Well, I know what I'm saying.

But he had a love story. He also got the kind of guy who's going to keep him down. No, hello. The Elba islands were only for him to relax.

Take it easy for once. He's an island. He stayed at the resort. He got a massage in the tan.

He felt great. I'm going to go with Genghis Khan. He ran and he went through my mind. Underrated conqueror in terms of the sheer area.

Yeah. Starting in Mongolia which most people couldn't point to on a map. No, North Carolina. This is the China steps up there.

One of the few conquerors to be successful in Russia. That doesn't usually happen. Well, it's because nobody has ever been able to take Russia from the east only by the west. Only by the Mongolians.

The Mongolians were able to be successful. Well, that's true. It's a great mentality. I just love World War II when they went through the east.

They were like, oh yeah the Mongolians did it. Come on let's take all the Russians. And then that was a big surprise for them. Well, then continuing west of there.

He also the Mongolians were the proponents of these ones who started horse archery. Yeah. The cradle horse archery where they would ride up and knock the arrows and take them out and ride out. So, you're thinking of Kashik warriors?

Kashik warriors. You're thinking of Kashik from the first few wars. No, because in civilization five if you start out with a certain unit and it's the Kashik like that. That sounds great.

If you're the Mongolians. Well, the Mongols also used winter to their advantage. They would use the frozen over rivers this highway. And they're very hardy.

Probably I would say most importantly of all great facial hair. Yeah, yeah, hard to be. Not like runnin' up. Yeah, exactly.

Except they look like a wearing Eskimo coat. You know, with the fur on the outside. No, respect them for the beef. Yeah, definitely not.

It's true. Well, it's hard to top down. I was going to go with William the Conqueror. But if we're going to go with landmass territory.

I'm not going to go with Alexander the Grey. He's another. He's like second in line with that. I said favorite, not greatest.

All right, we'll go back to William the Conqueror. I'll tell you about William the Conqueror. I know nothing about him except that he was the last person to invade in England and to conquer it. After that, no one else had succeeded in eating England.

He had to go where he conquered. Well, you know what I know about him? He conquered. He didn't lie down for anybody.

He came from Normandy. He was viking descent because the vikings had settled in Normandy. And so that was his claim to the English throne because vikings had invaded hundreds of years earlier in England. And they have the best mythology.

I think. Those conquerors right there. Those are our favorite conquerors. All right.

And Jeff, I'm going to pass it to you now, sir. Okay. Do you have a question? I have a question.

I do have a question. Let me just preface this by saying there's no fried chicken in this. Okay. Unless you guys find someone connecting this subject to fried chicken.

You might always be able to connect fried chicken. Do either of you have a favorite conspiracy theory? Oh. Well?

I'm going to say in general, I don't ascribe to too many of them. Yeah, I can name a few. Well, you know what? I think they're mostly hogwash.

But I enjoy them. They're entertaining. They're entertained. The second shooter theory would be one.

That's in the top for me. Yeah. But I feel like that's so many people. The lizard people.

It's not really for me with a whole lot of these. Let's roll with this. This is good. Let's make up for it.

We've got Roswell. Roswell. Area 51, which is funny because when I came down here I was like, well, we're going down to Area 51. It's 54 though.

It's going to be Studio 54. It's like a rocket. It's like a rocket. So now we're Area 54.

It's up from studio 51. The Illuminati. The Illuminati, which I do love and I played a soundbite. It's not the Illuminati.

If I can take him to the, Jeff's shirt is fantastic. It's mesmerizing. The fashion segment. I was staring in the space listening to somebody and I was looking at the Jeff's belly going, sure it's badass.

With all the Mayan art. Yeah. I love the Mayan art. Do they have experiences?

I agree. They thought 2012 was going to be the end of the world. Yeah, but one that's believable. Did any of us really pack up water and beef jerky for 2012 or were we like, well, of course, the Mayan are out of calendars.

We murdered them. They ran out of their calendar because we killed them. That's why. I survived Y2K.

2012. Well, that was the closest I've ever been to. Maybe we should get some out of water. I don't know.

I was like, certainly the computer geeks will fix this. Certainly they can make holograms by now. Another conspiracy that comes to mind is the faking of the moon landing. Yeah.

I don't have enough information on them. Come on man. Really? They landed.

Come on. Come on. Chef Jagger didn't break the sonic barrier so that we could lie about it. We saw the right stuff.

See, we're getting into the nitty gritty here. We're through the looking glass. The right stuff. Told the truth.

It didn't tell about moon landing. But it was about the first day of astronaut. It said they made it that far. Certainly they landed on the moon a couple years later.

We did an awful lot of space exploration sets. Sure. Yeah. So why does it not hard to believe that we didn't learn it?

Yeah. Felt some Pluto. I think it's ridiculous. It's way better.

It should be. It should absolutely. You don't know anything about Pluto. I know that it's too small for the real scientists.

It's a little bit more than a moon. It's smaller than the United States. It is round. It is big enough to become round.

Does it have a moon? Does it have a moon? It might. It's a slice of a dog ball.

I think a satellite does not. A justification for being labeled a planet. I know. It's what they taught us.

I can't help it. I was raised that way. Pluto. That's going to be your defense.

I was raised that way. I can't change. I was raised this way. I can't change.

That's ridiculous. I was raised to believe that you can't eat pasta on Sundays. So I can't eat pasta on Sundays from here. That's ludicrous.

You can try. Moving on. Moving on. To other conspiracy.

Oh no. I've got wars. There's certain wars that people say never happen. I have a specific conspiracy theory that I thought we would delve into.

It's not the Holocaust. It's because I think that happened. No. We are going to be talking about aliens.

Oh, OK. Let's do this. Are you for the wall? No.

I'm not a person who actually believes that aliens have come here. There's a couple questions that haven't been solved for me. Some of the stuff I can't explain. First off, how did they break the speed of light so they could travel here across the billions and billions of light years of space?

They got treasure. They got treasure. What they did is they had a pressure cooker in the foot. That's amazing.

That's awesome. I have heard rumors from people. Why did you look at the heavens? That there is a portal in the sun because someone has spotted a UFO flying into a hole in the sun coming out the other side.

They were staring at the sun. They were staring at the sun. I think we've got the kind of person. We've been describing these theories.

At the beginning of the Texas Janson massacre, there's a guy working at a gas station with an overly large forehead. Just staring at the sun. Was it what? The five head?

No. At least the seven head. It was not quite a rocky dentist. Just a little less.

Is that wrong? He died a long time ago. It was an entire episode of making the Democrats say it's okay. Yeah.

Yeah, Barack Obama wasn't asking for it. Okay. Wasn't. Oh my.

After we finished the elephant man, let's make fun of Rocky Dennis. For Phella, he was in a biker gang. He shares his mom. His mom is hot.

All right. All right. Aliens. All right.

Now. I just want to point out Jeff's got a stack over here. There's a lot of information here. It is impressive.

Yeah. There is a whole lot. There are a number of them television programs that specialize in aliens. There's ancient aliens on the history channel, or I like to call it the conspiracy channel.

Yeah, I didn't work for it. They also have a monsters thing where they look for Sasquatch and things. I used to be into that one of the kids. There's also, let's see.

I wrote some of these down. There are ancient aliens. There is the X files. My daughter's.

That doesn't purport to be a documentary. Oh, you said documentary. I just thought we were talking about shows about aliens. There's blue skies.

There is, oh, where did I write this down? I wrote this down and now I can't find the page. I suck. There is Hanger One, which is supposedly a giant aircraft hangar that has all these files that are collected by Mufon, or as I like to say, Mufon because it's M-U-F-O-N, which is mutual UFO network.

Awesome. So it's a television series that delves into their files. Everything in space. Then there is also unsealed alien files.

It's nice to not unsealed those four. Yeah. Because after all these decades, supposedly the government has finally unsealed all these different papers. And until alien files reveals them to us, only they actually keep revealing the same stories over and over again, using the same footage often.

So ancient aliens always like to start out by saying, millions of people believe. And I always say, millions of people believe all kinds of things. That doesn't make it true. There are people who believe that your blood is blue.

Before we get it. Your blood is never blue. Your blood is always red. This message brought to you by science.

What? So why? Because the way you look at your wrist, you're going to see blue lines because of the way light bounces and reflects off your skin. Think about when you get a paper cut.

Think about bright red that is oxygenated blood. But if you have blood taken out of your veins, for a blood type or a donning blood, it's very dark red. That is deoxygenated blood. It's always red.

It's just different shades. Even though it looks blue in our skin, it's a lie. Sorry, you're sorry, okay, Ben. Okay.

I'm about to look for a sound bite. But before I do, speaking of conspiracy theories, I received a text at 1252 today from Jeff Curtis that said, I don't want exclamation point now. No punctuation. No one.

I don't want now. It could be now. Question mark. I forgot my phone.

So I couldn't respond. I was like, four, 30 seconds. But when I looked at it, I was like, I'm sorry, Jeff, whatever idea. I didn't mean to upset you.

I don't want now. Now. Now. What it was.

I have no idea. I was driving home from Louisville and we were having to stop at Walgate for coming here before I could then go to the night of the living dead meeting. Oh, okay. So I pulled out my cellphone because you can't text while you're driving.

And so I held a button and I said, Siri, text Ron Blair. And I said, what do you want to say to Ron Blair? I said, I'm going to be five minutes late. And she said, do you want me to send that?

I said, yes. And then I said, what you were saying? I said, I don't want to say anything I've been saying. And then she said, again, she repeated herself.

Do you want me to send the message? And I said, yes. So you got me talking just random shit after you went home to send the first message, but she didn't send you at all. I love being frustrated at Siri.

When we went to New York, she said, she kept saying, stay right to stay in the left lane. And I was like, ah, you can't. You can't stay in the right lane to get to the left lane. I'm just the same.

And there were like 20 lanes to the left of me. And I was like, I'm just standing over here. Why is New Jersey stupid? So mad.

For those listeners in New Jersey, we love it. You're a beautiful state. It's the Garden State. And the message brought to you by sanity.

There's not a bad one on you. Anyway, anyway, anything into our conspiracies. Apparently, according to it. David Bowie poses an excellent question.

She could spit in the eyes of fools. I was really hoping it would be closer to asking if there's life on Mars in the song from the place I started, but there's not. I didn't have a headphones. So he just asked, is there life on Mars?

No. No. It's David Bowie's best song though. That should be our favorite next time.

What is his best song? That's not that one. It is that one. There's another song on Mars.

I just felt it was relevant. I'll look for a soundbite later. I'm just really happy. I figured out what I don't want now means.

What? Now. Alright, so according to ancient aliens. Let's go through the television.

According to the history channel show, ancient aliens. I just want to talk about what their conspiracies before moving on. Because they like to talk about how ancient aliens have come and influenced mankind's history. So here's one of the things that they were providing as evidence of alien intervention in human history.

They talked about tombs that have been or a specific tomb that was opened up in Egypt. And inside that tomb was a little model of what they called said was an airplane. It was a little, it was wooden and it looked like it had a bird beak, had little eyes on it, but it had flat wings sticking out on the side like you would see in a glider. Instead of how birds their back feathers are horizontal.

Yeah, yeah. This had like an airplane rudder. The only thing it didn't have was a stabilizer. And so they have, scientists have taken this bird or airplane and they made a bigger model of it and added the stabilizer and it flew perfectly.

And so they say that's evidence of alien intervention because humans saw, aliens saw these airplanes from outer space. And now before we analyze how we feel about this evidence, let me offer some more. Please, yeah. Now in South America they found in another place where an ancient civilization that's no longer around in Colombia 1500 years ago.

Is this alien versus predator or is it actually an ancient wing? No, they found, in there they found this tomb, or I guess it was a tomb. Anyway it had all these little models that of fish and insects, but a dozen of them looked like airplanes. And they were shown one of them that had a fuselage that had flat wings sticking out underneath and airplane instead of insects on the top.

It also had a rudder and it had stabilizers stabilizing wings next to it. They built a bigger model of it, put an engine on it and landing gear and flew it. And they showed them flying it. By the way, Jeff just did hand motions for a remote control.

I saw listeners clearly. Of course, because for how well somebody was supposed to talk to the listeners, I can't use my hands. I mean, the clear explanation is the obvious explanation is the people from the show are bringing these tombs, they're showing them every tomb these people are. I'm assuming it's like a whole lot of these.

They're not messing this on anything. I have no idea. No, I think they found these artifacts. And I'm saying that people of all my explanation is that humans have always been fascinated with flight because we watch birds fly.

And why would it take the stars? So why would it take until the 20th century for humans to try and figure out how to fly? Even way back then try to figure out, well, how can I fly? Maybe build a model that worked out how to fly.

Like a midge. That means you had the power to actually make it fly, but you could certainly make models or toys that might be able to do that. Most of our mythology from anywhere around the world is going to be their dogs with flying or have some sort of power over gravity. And it's going to come from above.

Everything comes from above. Anything unexplained comes from the sky or the sea, but most of the sky. Some kind of separation there. But they also found hieroglyphs in one of these places that, you know, how the hieroglyphs are pictures of, I'm explaining this for the people who are listening to it.

But anyway, in the hieroglyphs in one of these places, they've shown this on their video, that they can't verify the accuracy of whether this was actually the tomb. But you know, they had what looked like a helicopter and their plane on the hieroglyphs. Was it a united flight? They say I'm not the apical.

It looked like a black hawk to me. Well, here's what actually gave me a little tingle right there. Well, that was me touching it like that. I appreciate it.

Considering that there appear in both of those places built by different, slightly different in construction, but still the same kind of shape and then those just happen to be the two places, I could see where somebody would want to put something together like that. I also know that the thought of aliens building the pyramids. I think there should be millions of Jewish people who are like, I worked hard on that pyramid, though. Thank you so much for me.

I worked very hard for many months rolling logs in stones. I don't take credit for my work. Son of a bitch. This is explicit podcast.

Yeah, just a month of years. This is a lot of people. It's rated M for Mom's Dig Me. So any of you single mothers out there?

He's married, sorry. Our email address is, don't listen to Jared. Our email address. It's the wildcardpodcast at gmail.com.

The wildcard pod at gmail.com. Okay, listen to Jared. He's giving information. But I've not been this regarding him.

Ignore Jared except what I say. That is interesting in terms of these ideas that we're finding things at these sites around the world that would seem to be anachronistic out of time. They don't fit with that time. So that is interesting.

I don't know that that would, for me, being the skeptic of science teacher, having good evidence. I don't know that's going to leave me to think about it's the algorithm that people would do. That kind of evidence that points into something more than what I know. Well, but that's the thing about belief systems.

If you believe that ancient aliens have come here, then everything you see is going to justify just like any belief system. People should look at whatever they want to believe. And then they look for evidence to support that. And we're very good at ignoring things that are not important with that.

In science, we have what's called the null hypothesis, the idea that if I find this information, it disproves what I believe. If I find this piece of evidence, it's going to say what I believe is false. That's the way science should try to be. I'm going to try to prove it.

This thing that I believe I'm going to try to prove it wrong. If I can't prove it wrong, then maybe it's true. As opposed to trying to find the piece of evidence that shows I'm right. I'm going to say, if this is true, I know I'm wrong.

So I'm going to try to find that. If I can't disprove it, it's probably true. If that works out, then I'm probably wrong. Because I should always be self-correcting.

That's interesting. Yeah, we'll do a ghost episode later and get used to that. It's kind of similar. Not similar at all and yet.

It's in the same ballpark as cryptozoology and supernatural. I mean, many people would argue that religion isn't that same thing. As someone who's religious, you'd be like, why do you accept that one and reject the other one? Right.

But I like you, so I'm not going to just give those questions. I don't know if I can tell another fucking one. I get really mad at you. Do either of you know where the term flying saucer originated?

In the 1950s or prior to that? It's slightly prior to that. I would say I don't know exactly the time here. But the idea being as they're trying to explain what they saw, it was kind of like a flying saucer piece of dish.

Well, I feel like America, in the age of mass media, aliens, really talk of aliens, really picked up. And the terminology that you would use really picked up, it feels like that would be in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 50s, 50s. But then again, who's to say that the Aztecs or the Egyptians didn't also have conspiracy. Theres Lunatics talking about aliens, even back then.

There were just no mass media, so it didn't spread like it would have in America at that time. What year was it? It was 1947, in fact. It was a two-year-two, a man named...

Ruby Lefelmann? I love Rivelmann. It's my favorite guy in the world. He cooks my favorite gaga in the afternoon.

Right. No, Kenneth Arnold in June 24, 1947 was flying his private plane in Yakima, Washington. Okay, this is one of those stories. You see a lot of alien TV shows start with that, with the guy in the 1947 flying in the plane, and he's like, what is that?

A spherical object. What's more about the plane? He's just a private person flying at around 3pm. Leave him alone.

Leave him alone. At 3pm around 9000 feet, he saw a right flashing light that he thought was a reflection on his window. Okay. And as he moved the plane around, he kept being there.

Now, while this is going on, there's also another DC-4 in the air. But so anyway, according to him, these things, he saw this configuration of eight or nine objects that were flying in formation such as a flock of birds. Only they were bigger than birds, and they were reflecting light. We didn't think to himself, oh these are aliens.

He thought, oh these are experimental aircraft of the United States. Or some of them. Does that go to prove that there were secret missions or whatnot going on and that he suspected that maybe doing something? Well, this is right after World War II, so there's all kinds of experimenting stuff going on.

So anyway, so he paced these things and he watched these things and he got closer to them and he described them at one point. The term flying saucer comes from him saying that they moved like they were stones skipping across the pond. Huh, okay. Or like a saucer skipping across the pond.

He never said they were shaped like a saucer, but he said that they were kind of disc shaped and convex shaped. So this was also seen on the ground by multiple other witnesses, these things in the air. So what do you think he saw? Swamp gas.

That's what we're collecting all the business. Well, it was the Yak from Washington, so it could have been what is it? When the Tundra Melts? What was that called?

When the Tundra Melts. Yeah, there's no Tundra in Washington. They may have been Tundra in Washington. They're out there.

They're out there. I'm just wondering if there's some kind of trick of a light or even a, you know how fuel makes a rainbow with them or something like that. Well, here's a picture of eight objects in the sky that was taken, tell us Oklahoma on July 12th that he said looked like what he saw. That's going to be flares for a light year.

Yeah, I'm not convinced those aren't weather balloons or something like that. Well, one of my big questions about flying saucers or UFOs is why if you're an alien, would you be flying around with your ship lit up so that everybody could see you? What's going to try to be invisible? I like the theory of moronic aliens who fly here.

What are we doing now? I don't know. I'm high. Let's go to the New Jersey shore and get some poutine.

But anyway, it was in the newspapers of June 26th and 27th when the first, when the term flying saucer first was being used. So that's where the term, I want to get into the rest of it. Some of the skeptical explanations that have been offered for this specific sighting, Stuart Campbell. Well, this is good.

Great. That's spelled differently. Yeah. I was a scientist of several snow-capped peaks in the Cascade range.

I was kind of there. A guy by the name of Philip J. Class of the San Francisco Examiner argued that he might have misidentified meteors. Although I don't see how they became an inflammation.

I don't think something is happening. Something had spoken up in the atmosphere. I think he would have been able to imagine. I'd buy that it was something in the atmosphere.

James Easton suggested that Arnold may have misidentified pelicans. The birds live in Washington region are rather large. Have a pale underside that can reflect light. Can fly at a rather high altitude and can appear to have a somewhat crescent-shaped profile in flying.

The pelicans are on fire! That's my favorite explanation. Put out the pelicans! I'm going to propose that every time anyone's seen anything, it's pelicans.

It's pelican. Get the fire extinguishing up! They're not the pelicans! They're not the pelicans.

They're not the last of all of these. This is Yakima not the one answer. That's what the pelican brief is about. That's what the pelican brief is about.

Exactly. Well, another critic Donald Menzel suggested in 1953 that Arnold had seen clouds of snow blown from the mountains in 1963. He proposed that Arnold had seen ourographic clouds or wave clouds, whatever those are. And in 1971 he said Arnold may have merely seen sponsored water on his airplane's window.

I thought that too. His windshield wipers just weren't black. I totally buy that. Oh goodness.

Oh okay. Shall we talk about other things? Let's see what's got more of these sightings or ideas behind these. Well, according to Safri right there, let me stop you right there.

I've been thinking, and I actually told you this the other night, the thing about werewolves, the thing about werewolves are, if they see you, that's your ass. I was telling Jeff this just the other night because I was like, I was in a civilian. As soon as I walked out, I was like, you see werewolf? They'll find you, they will jump through a window climb through a wall, they'll do whatever they have to do.

They'll bust through this wall. It's nothing. It's nothing. They'll bust through Jeff's several.

It's at least seven foot tall. Wait, what? It says it in a person? How does it get?

How does he gain a foot? I saw it in a wolf. Put a wolf on its hind legs and it's like... He's got the same limbs that he started out with.

No, no, no, no. More muscly. How could his legs get longer? I don't find where was that?

Really? I don't find where was that. Oh my God. They can't fly.

Well, they can run faster than you can. I don't know that you've seen your own. You have some bullets in me. But I can start throwing some bullets at him.

But... Well, it's got to swallow these over me. It becomes wolf lock. It becomes a loopine.

Right. All right. It's all right. And so it's a mouse getting longer.

It's gonna get challenging. I believe it can bite me. It may be a couple of whirl. But I think if it's biting when my arm's uppercutting it.

I just think they're so tough. They're so tough. If it's not like... Well, they get long and like it.

They get long and like it. It's still like a claw getting on this angle. Oh, I don't know if you can fight a werewolf. I don't know if I would.

It says this out. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Are you going to fight it or are you going to run from it?

I guess running from it's no good. So you may as well try to fight it, but that's your ass. That's what I'm saying. I'm making a werewolf.

Why would an alien of a human if he could have done a werewolf and study it instead? I know. That's a good question. I would rather have done it than a human being in most cases from a distant.

How much... How much of its humanity is the werewolf retained? A werewolf... Once they're a werewolf, there's zero humanity.

So we can't climb it. Oh, we can call it. But it's got no humanity. No, it's got the big claws.

It's got the big claws. Well, a wolf can watch a bear and go, I can do that. Is that a werewolf? It's not a werewolf.

Although there are were bears in some cultures. There are were bears. There are were bears. There are were bears there.

Where are coogers? Hold on. Let's get this out. No, we can't do that.

There are were bears where coogers where panthers. Every civilization has their anthropomorphic beast. Where does Sasquatch fall into these? Oh, he's not real.

He's not real. He's not real. All these werewolves and all these were were real. Don't let me stop them.

They're real. I can't do this. But yet he's I can't do this that Sasquatch yet he bullshit Harry the Henderson's no Never saw it. Oh John Lithgow never really saw it.

I've heard it's great. Well that of course proves that is correct It's John Lithgow would play a lie. That's true. It's on it's a movie must be true I wonder if John Lithgow was anywhere wolf in this one find this out cuz it's gonna burn in my brain Anyway while you're doing that a CNN poll taken in 1997 showed 72% of the American public believes the US government knows more about aliens And UFOs and they are telling us what I mean.

John Lithgow was on third rock from the Sun. Correct a whole show about aliens. Yes Yeah, oh we're wolves. I was looking at John Lithgow.

Wait, I need this statistic close one. 72% of people polled said they believe the US government knows more about aliens than they're letting on Yes, I want to know who's because I my guess is it's bums that have been jackrolled were the ones being asked about this I think you're really gonna be ashamed of my vote here. Oh, no. I feel like Why is it not possible?

Wait, what are they saying again? Well, they're saying the government knows more than they're saying they're not saying they believe in aliens They're saying the government knows more about aliens than UFOs than they're telling us and a 2002 roper poll showed That 74% of the public confirmed that they are at least somewhat psychologically prepared for any official government announcement Regarding the discovery of intelligence I believe Was that how roger no Or a roper poll I think I think the government is hiding everything I'm going on the point like this and I'm not waiting for any announcement I'm actually the one that would be surprised if they did announce anything I think they're gonna keep lying to us until now. I'm not gonna say I'm the one who believes the government is telling us to do everything I don't know they don't know that much more my aliens. I think they know it all I think they know about the Stargate Maybe you haven't seen politicians before but please are they known at all?

Well Shrek there was a werewolf in Shrek, but yeah, I'm sure they got wolf. Okay, so what a wolf man It's an anthropomorphic size wolf. Yeah, okay, then I can't use them to my life down. There was no werewolves in that No, I think John left you out until the world with very hands.

I'd like to see him do I think he would try to talk him into dying with his jokes He was like dirty runs down to the musical. Oh, he's a good man. There's a musical for dirt Oh, it's good. It's good Dude, you rotten guys like us.

This podcast is brought to you actually by very wrong scales and musical. Yeah Nice, thank you All right, so we're oofo knowledge we'd like to talk about the many different kinds of aliens out there Their names for me. Yes, like a little gray guy with big head and I got named a baby Okay, baby, baby. This one's Gary.

Oh, is there one for the invasion of the body snatcher one because Donald Sutherland at the end of Invasions of the body snatcher is like What's your name? Oh? Zena Morse We did a split screen amazing. Yeah, we played Mario Kart together.

We really mean it's super blue shit. Well, hey, anyway, I lost my first page We're gonna see one of those aliens that you lost the page on later. We're not gonna be in You The first page was the the greats the most common was what are the what that are like three or four feet tall It's not possible none of us will ever be aware of You're gonna prove to you that he can You Get it Well apparently the grades are responsible for most of the abductions that people report Doing experiments on human being Apparently they are cross-reading humans with the grace to keep their race Alive in the future because many of these abductions say they've been abducted many times and in in later abductions They are presented with their children offspring to meet a little great babies Well, they're humanoid alien looking with long-sling like thin hair that looked like a cross between a human and those little great things I guess if you helped you can't help it They mention the village of the damn day I don't know I didn't really there's like 72 different Oh my god, that's someone who spent some time. Oh, yeah, they have classified this Why does the second one look like a mantha from the event because this is the because a little Stevens wasn't a weekend This is the reptilian oh Yeah, the description five seven and height red eyes resembles a lizard very intelligent very nasty in other words Don't don't mess with it these don't say don't mess It doesn't say anything it's all these symbols You know the name for there's a name for that kind of a panel where they I've heard of this months ago, and I felt like it was just fresh enough in my mind, but I couldn't I couldn't retreat it So basically this is a don't growlix with these guys exactly okay said to live underground in underground bases in fact Rumored to have taken over a US military underground base and to live on human blood.

Oh, I've been seen in charge of other races These could be the top guys. Wait, so is this the Oh Like the bad guys and they live which they're all the bad guys consumed then there are the blood Nordic humanoid To be tall Sure human appearance, but who knows if this is just a disguise What if the aliens came down and taught them how to yodel? Yeah said to be the overseers of abduction, but did not seem to be as malevolent as some of the other species mentioned here Just lost a pair of them. Yeah, do you want we should take this guy?

By the way, I should show people know that I'm not trying to see a lot of people's work These descriptions I found on cosmic species dot htm. Oh those guys know see those guys know they're legitimate. They're like a New Yorker magazine I read an article I don't want to be infringing on copyright immaterial by other people I'll do respect sure then there are the blues descriptions Spiritual entities haven't really come across a picture of them. Sorry We know they exist we don't have any evidence at all, but I'm telling you I stay so paranoid most of the time anyway Me and Jeff he's gonna drive me to where I need to go after we do this podcast everybody Feel their skin I think what if you're an ortic one and you're like Maybe you maybe you branched off from them because you were so short and they were like we don't want your time.

I don't do it Yeah, actually they're the newest of the alien species first seen in varginga Brazil in the early 90s Small-tan colored imp like being said to resemble the devil and give off a strange ammonia smell glowing red eyes Three more towards on the head said to drain its victim of blood many sightings in Central America said to be capable of light No, we've got a huge back on There was a highlight one down here. Yeah, I want me to jump to the highlight The insiders residents either permanent or temporary of the various different secret society connected top-secret government underground installations Wow, that's a lot of colonies throughout the United States and the world Oh my god five six some of these groups may possess advanced technology enabling them to travel to various other planetary bodies in the solar system This group is international in scope and may be tied in with the alternative two and three scenarios Yes, I am familiar If you guys were insiders you wouldn't you wouldn't tell anybody though would you in fact the perfect cover would be a Ridiculate a pod. It's getting real scary in here. I'm telling you I came in feeling the smoothies right now I'm just I'm about to pee because I feel that you know But isn't that true about any conspiracy theory that you can't disprove them because any evidence of disproving it is just a cover up for the That's true the best so you spend your whole time going as a scientist.

Yeah, I Am a skeptic clearly. Yeah, but I'm also the kind who says listen. I can't prove you're wrong I can say you're probably an idiot I can't explain there's actually that's kind of how I feel about ghosts. Okay, we can bring it up those again I feel the same way it's I've never seen one.

I don't believe in them. I don't want to I'm not going where I've heard They are because I don't need to be proven wrong. I'm happy in my little world where they don't exist Yeah, okay with that. Okay with not believe me.

All right last week We'll talk about before moving on Martians Apparently inhabitants of the planet Mars both human and non-human including the alleged inhabitants of the The two Martian moons which many believe to be artificially hollowed asteroids Bobos it said to be under the control of the original greys or self-reducing or self-reproducing greys Which are the hosts for the gray clones which operate from various space stations that are disguised as planetoids It is from these carrier ships that this the abduction implantation Programming mutilation infiltration and other projects are carried out against the planet earth So let's do a few astronauts Now these quotes are coming from a different website. I want to get credit where credit is to This website is aliens everything you want to know calm with a dash between every word Well this podcast is brought to you by aliens dash everything dash you dash one dash two dash no So Armstrong and Edwin Buzz Aldrin yes my two favorites both Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin apparently saw spacecraft shortly after landing on the moon Oh now there have been reports that they not just from this website But on these conspiracy television shows that I watch that say that they switched over to the medical channel Microphone or private conversation while they're in the moon that lasts for about two minutes So that it wasn't part of what was being broadcast to everyone else Okay, and apparently Neil Armstrong relate the message to mission control that two large objects were watching them After having landed near the moon module Major Gordon Cooper yeah with one of the Here before the UN the up here before the UN General Assembly and asked for open discussions on the unidentified spacecraft matter Cooper says the secrecy started out back in World War two or shortly thereafter I think they thought the public would be frightened by knowing somebody had some vehicles that had so much better performance than anything We had that maybe it would create any public learn about them They probably try and hush it up until they found out more about them then then as I went on I just got more embarrassing to try and cover it up No these guys they've seen it they were there the alien symbiote Cooper also wrote as far as I'm concerned There have been far too many unexplained examples of an identified flying objects to rule out the possibility that some other life Formings it's out beyond our own world now see I'm with him there. Yeah, I can't rule out the possibility that there's things out there But I just can't report this is actually evidence right Yeah, I get right now. I get that I just feel that we should listen to the government people okay run play the ex-bile music thing Which we don't have copyrights for oh Shut it off it's been eight notes they're coming at the middle actor Chris major Robert White who he is during a 58 Colonel Sanders he's one of my favorite white Colonel Sanders my favorite Major White during an applied of an x-15 aircraft exclaimed over the radio.

I have no idea what it could be It was gracing to learn about 30 40 feet away. There are things out there. There absolutely is I Think it's this cracky website well, I'll say you know what I find interesting here though is that these guys You could almost do a comparison between these guys in early space exploration the if the infancy really a space exploration With the pirates who had said they had seen a siren or a mermaid crackin or the crackin any of these things that were actually the giant squid Or the mantis they said sometimes from mermaids because the back fin that would stick out in the air Stuff like that so you wonder Maybe we just haven't pinned it down and put a name to the thing that these astronauts are seeing Just like the sailors back in the day would create all these wonderful legends Well, Ed White and James McDibbit first American to walk in space were passing over the Hawaiian Islands in the Gemini spacecraft in June 1965 They saw a strange looking metallic object with long arms coming from it the pictures have never been released astronaut Gordon Cooper later confirmed That McDibbit did indeed film something in space You see that Astronauts James level and Frank Borman were in a Gemini spacecraft when they saw a yellow during their second orbit of a 14 day flight in space December 1965 and you can't deny James level because he was played by Tom Borman reported that he saw an unidentified spacecraft some distance from the capsule Gemini control told him he was seeing the final stage of their own Titan booster rocket Borman confirmed that he could see the booster rocket but that he could also see something else something completely different Here is the radio transcript level bogey at 10 o'clock high control. This is Houston say again level said we have a bogey at 10 o'clock high Control Gemini 7 is that the booster is at an actual sighting level.

We have several actual sighting Control estimated sizes or distance level. We have we also have the booster in sight Is this website reporting that every astronaut I don't think I've actually heard this you've heard that played on television doesn't mean what it is At least at least that shows that this is reporting things that other people can corroborate. Yes, okay? James level also when he was on Apollo 8 he stated over the radio Please be informed that there is a Santa Claus As a round of the fact that's out of the moon Santa Claus was the code word used by NASA for alien spacecraft That sounds just as bizarre though like if you're using a code word you like my armpit itches I see Santa Claus everyone's gonna realize that the sketchy's going down All right, do you want to talk about the men of black or aliens in history and art?

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