The Wilderness Way with Dustin Kleinschmidt

What happens when you faithfully follow God's calling and life still falls apart? In this episode of The Self-Leadership Lab, I sit down with author, coach, musician, and former pastor Dustin Kleinschmidt to discuss burnout, depression, expectations, faith, and finding God in the wilderness seasons of life. Dustin shares his remarkable journey from a difficult childhood to ministry leadership, church planting, burnout, and ultimately discovering a deeper understanding of God's presence in suffering. We explore how unmet expectations can damage our faith, why God often does His deepest work in difficult seasons, and how taking the "next first step" can transform our lives. If you've ever wondered where God is in the middle of hardship, this conversation will encourage you to stop focusing on escaping the wilderness and start looking for what God is doing within it. Topics Discussed • Burnout and recovery • Faith during difficult seasons • Depression and anxiety • Church leadership challenges • The Wilderness Way • Target fixation and spiritual growth • The power of community • Psalm 37 and faithful living • Dwelling in the land • Taking the next first step About Dustin Kleinschmidt Dustin Kleinschmidt is an author, coach, musician, and former pastor. He is the author of The Wilderness Way and creator of the music project Wild Days. Through coaching, writing, and speaking, Dustin helps people navigate life's challenges with faith, honesty, and hope. Connect with Dustin Website: DustinKleinschmidt.com Book: The Wilderness Way Music: Wild Days Connect with Bobby Newsletter: https://bobbyshelton.substack.com/ LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/drbobbyshelton