The Wolverine Stack debate misses the point (and needles)

Whenever some big change hits the world, the conversation goes the same way:* People on the frontier dive in and pat each other on the back for seeing the future (mistakes get made).* The mainstream rolls its eyes, clutches its pearls, wrings its hands and says “tsk, tsk, tsk” (opportunities get missed).* Eventually Matthew Yglesias and Scott Alexander write very long posts about them. No one reads both. Diamond Rhino, the inimitable podcast, sits in the middle of all that. It puts the frontier and the mainstream together on one show and asks if there aren’t some good points made on both sides. So, here we are in week two of our coverage of peptides, the industry that’s already bigger than video games were when everyone got surprised that video games were bigger than Hollywood about a decade ago. The only people who aren’t behind on this issue are in too deep.Join the A-Team:So, this week, I dig into claims focus have made about BPC-157 (mostly) and also TB-500, the two grey market peptides that often get combined into what’s known as “The Wolverine Stack” — because they are each thought to help people heal.It’s just that they don’t help everyone heal! And when they do help, results vary! And also people keep making themselves sick, but not because of what was put in the vials. More on all of this on today’s episode. Are you hyped? (we’re against hype about everything except this newsletter).But here’s the part you’re not going to expect but is actually going to really help ground you through the conversation: We’re going to start with some really modest claims from people you have never heard of.Anecdotes aren’t data, but they are information. 🖤 To subscribe to Diamond Rhino in a pod player, click on any of these links:* Spotify* Apple Podcasts* Pocket Casts* OvercastSourcesJoe Rogan Experience #1683 - Andrew HubermanJune 27, 2024BPC-157: Everything You Need to Know—Benefits, Risks, Dosing, & Delivery MethodsQuinn Stilson MDJune 12, 2025Why I Stopped BPC-157 and TB-500 PeptidesApril 26, 2024Bill MaedaI Took The Wolverine Stack & My Thoughts On BPC-157 & TB-500Dr. Josh JagodaOctober 19, 2025My Experience with BPC-157 | Peptides That ENHANCE HEALING?Stephanie Wolff, PAJuly 15, 2022My BPC-157 storyJake WatkinsAug 20, 2025How BPC157 and TB500 Changed My Life A Personal Account (Peptide Therapy)Gabriel PicadoJune 23, 2024I Analyzed the Wolverine Stack Evidence—Here's What I Found (BPC-157 & TB500 Peptides)Dr. Chris Raynor | Not Your Everyday OrthoMarch 14, 2026Doctor Admits — I Was WRONG About The Wolverine StackDr. Ashley FroeseMar 10, 2026NotesJake Watkins follow up video, Jan 6, 202614 Peptides Are About to Become Legal Again — What This Means for Your Health, Meto, March 12, 2026Nevada Regulators Fine Peptide Providers at Anti-Aging Festival Where Two Women Became Critically Ill, Propublica, March 13, 2026A Las Vegas Festival Promised Ways to Cheat Death. Two Attendees Left Fighting for Their Lives, Propublica, July 29, 2025Music in the episode:“Data Breach” by FASSounds“Fortnite Roblox Minecraft Video Game Music,” by MFCC“Abstract Glitch Hop” by The Mountain“Bitcoins going up” by SunoMusicShowYouTubeAll from Pixabay Music This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.frontstageexit.com