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EPISODE · May 30, 2026 · 30 MIN

THE WORD, NOT THE WORLD

from B.A.S.I.C. Conversations · host Kevin Kelly

Send us Fan MailWhat do you do when you're the most encouraging person in the room — and you're falling apart inside?Zac Bauermaster is a high school principal, four-time published author, and speaker whose people-first leadership videos have generated over 376 million views on Instagram. He's been on Good Morning America, Fox & Friends, and People Magazine. But none of that is why this episode matters.This episode matters because Zac once led a team meeting, had a panic attack, and passed out in front of his staff. He couldn't eat. Couldn't sleep. Was fighting anxiety and depression completely alone — because everything looked fine on the outside. The next morning, he opened his journal and wrote three words: "God, use me."In this conversation, Zac opens up about that breaking point, his diagnosis, what it cost him to keep fighting alone, and the moment he finally let people in. He also shares what a visit to San Quentin State Prison taught him about peace, presence, and what it means to truly see people.Brother Boston brings his own story to this one too — his walk through anxiety and depression before coming to Christ, what changed when he did, and why both men believe the battlefield is the mind.Zac's closing word to his younger self says it all: The Word, not the world.This one will stay with you.Connect with Zac Bauermaster: 📱 Instagram / TikTok / Facebook: @ZBauermaster 🌐 zacbauermaster.com 📚 Books available on AmazonFollow B.A.S.I.C. Conversations: ▶️ youtube.com/@BrotherBoston B.A.S.I.C. Ministry — Born Again Soldiers In Christ | South Bend, Indiana

Send us Fan Mail What do you do when you're the most encouraging person in the room — and you're falling apart inside? Zac Bauermaster is a high school principal, four-time published author, and speaker whose people-first leadership videos have generated over 376 million views on Instagram. He's been on Good Morning America, Fox & Friends, and People Magazine. But none of that is why this episode matters. This episode matters because Zac once led a team meeting, had a panic attack, and pa...

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