The World's Biggest Ego Collides with the World's Oldest Institution

John discusses the ongoing struggle between the Trump Administration and the Catholic Church. Then, he interviews author Jane Borden about her new book "Cults Like Us: Why Doomsday Thinking Drives America". And then finally, John welcomes back Simon Moya-Smith and Julie Francella for their indigenous segment "We're Still Here".See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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John discusses the ongoing struggle between the Trump Administration and the Catholic Church. Then, he interviews author Jane Borden about her new book "Cults Like Us: Why Doomsday Thinking Drives America". And then finally, John welcomes back Simon Moya-Smith and Julie Francella for their indigenous segment "We're Still Here". See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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