Theology in Real Time and the Rise of the Watchmen – A Conversation with Steve Part 2 (Audio)

What happens when experience meets theology in real time? In this episode, Joe and Steve unpack the tension and gift of stepping into pastoral ministry while still learning in seminary. Steve shares how studying theology at Dallas Theological Seminary is shaping him—not in abstraction, but in the middle of shepherding 450 men every Tuesday night. We talk about deconstruction in culture, the responsibility of theological depth, and the challenge of preserving vulnerability as Forge continues to grow. As tables expand and new men walk in weekly, leadership must multiply without losing intimacy. Out of that tension comes vision: raising up table leaders, developing apprentices, and launching a “Watchman” layer to protect the mission and steward revival. Growth is a gift—but only if it’s guarded with humility, prayer, and structure.