Therapy: All Made Up with Claire von Kahle

Peter's little sister Claire is a licensed therapist — which means this episode was always going to turn into a session. Within the first two minutes, they're debating whether an Instagram therapist named Shannon knows what her handle looks like to the rest of the internet. From there it's childhood chaos (the Von Kahle kids once taped every doorway in the house and called it Tape Day), their dad's emoji-only birthday texts, and the question Peter probably should've thought harder about before asking on mic: "What is a therapist?"Claire explains therapy speak, calls Peter a suppressor to his face, and shares the story of walking into her own therapy session already crying and telling her therapist "I'm fine." Peter opens up about his five-year-old son Royal's anxiety — including the lunch where Royal looked up from his pizza and asked, "Hey, if mama dies, I don't need to go to school anymore, right?"They also cover EMDR (invented by a woman watching birds in Central Park — "we're making it all up, but it works"), IFS and parts work, the hermit crab graveyard, why therapists are always working themselves out of a job, and the tension between faith and feelings. Peter was prom king. Claire was better at basketball. They end on a conversation about names that's quieter and more honest than either of them expected.