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EPISODE · Feb 24, 2026 · 39 MIN

There Is No First In a Circle, with Kavita Ramdas

from Flourishing Leadership in Tough Times · host Debbie Owen

Rooted & Rising: Flourishing Leadership in Tough Times – Leading with Courage, Rest, and Community; A Conversation with Kavita N. RamdasSeason 1, Episode 8How do we lead with both courage and compassion in a world that glorifies burnout and hierarchy?In this soulful and expansive episode of Flourishing Leadership in Tough Times, host Deborah Owen is joined by renowned global advocate Kavita N. Ramdas to explore:✅ What it means to lead with others instead of over them✅ The power of rest and self-care as forms of resistance and renewal✅ Navigating the tension between patience and courage in moments of injustice✅ Why flourishing leadership begins with following, listening, and community✅ How nature and diversity teach us about sustainability and strengthWith wisdom drawn from decades of activism, philanthropy, and feminist leadership, Kavita offers a radical re-visioning of what flourishing looks like in tough times—not as individual triumph, but as collective, interconnected resilience.Tune in now to reflect on how you lead, when you rest, and the kind of world we’re called to co-create.Resources & Next StepsLearn more about Kavita’s current work: www.knrsisters.comReflect on your own leadership model—where do you need more community, more rest, more courage?(Apologies for a few technical issues.)====HERE ARE THE NEURO-BASED ENNEAGRAM BOOKS mentioned in the middle of the episode:The Lent books, When Sorrow SpeaksThe Advent books, The Awaiting.====leadership, feminist leadership, flourishing, community, courage, rest, activism, human rights, justice, burnout, spiritual leadership, self-care, nature, Kavita Ramdas, Deborah Owen, tough times, global equity, podcast Get full access to Rooted & Rising at debbieowen.substack.com/subscribe

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