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EPISODE · Jul 14, 2021 · 42 MIN

There is No ‘Take Down the Whole US Grid’ with Sarah Freeman and Andy Bochman

from WE'RE IN! · host Sarah Freeman, Jeremiah Roe, Andy Bochman, Bella DeShantz-Cook

Why you should listen:Hackers are targeting critical infrastructure and there’s an urgent need for smarter cybersecurity defenses to protect Operational Technology. The best practices to defend against attacks on utilities.Why there is no such thing as “taking down the whole US grid.”Five Key Quotes: “How can you secure what you don’t even know you have? If you don’t even know what you have down to some level of detail...you’re not going to be in a good position to defend it.”  - Andy Bochman “The most senior person with the word cyber in their title ideally is at least at the VP level.” - Andy Bochman “You have to not only understand how the attacker can gain access to your network but ultimately gain access to the accounts that are most valuable – where are those crown jewel accounts?” - Sarah Freeman“IT and OT needs to be merged …the problem is cyber is here to stay and everybody needs to take part in this security process.” - Sarah Freeman“The government is most interested in who conducted the attack... The fact that there are two parties here with differing interests is a core issue.” - Sarah FreemanRelated Links:Countering Cyber Sabotage: Introducing Consequence-Driven, Cyber-Informed Engineering (CCE) 1st Editionhttps://hbr.org/2018/05/internet-insecurityhttps://medium.com/cxo-magazine/the-missing-chief-security-officer-11979a54fbf9https://www.synack.com/LinkedIn: Andy BochmanSarah FreemanTwitter:@andybochman Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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In this episode, security experts and authors Sarah Freeman and Andy Bochman of the Idaho National Laboratory discuss today’s cyberthreat to utilities, debunk myths about taking down the grid and explain just how significantly the 2015 Ukraine power grid hack shifted everyone’s thinking when it comes to protecting critical infrastructure.

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