EPISODE · Jan 20, 2026 · 46 MIN
They Said Her Safety Wasn't Cost Effective - Catherine Mattice with Jane Applegath
from Epic Vision Zone with Jane Applegath · host Jane Applegath
IF FEAR IS BUILT INTO THE JOB, THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN.“If your workplace protects profit over people, it’s not safe, no matter what the policy says.”CATHERINE MATTICE, Founder & CEO of Civility Partners, was an expert witness in a case where airline attendants sued over sexual harassment by pilots. Their request: separate hotels for safety.THE ANSWER? “THAT’S NOT COST-EFFECTIVE.”When an organization decides profit matters more than women feeling safe in their beds at night, that’s not leadership. That’s a system telling women to absorb fear quietly.It’s not simply about not opening the door. Fear doesn’t need permission. Your nervous system keeps the score.A toxic workplace policy says: endure it.We don’t need better training.We need better standards. This is leadership speaking.CATHERINE MATTICE, Founder & CEO of Civility Partners, is dedicated to helping leaders transform toxic workplace cultures into respectful, high-performing environments. Since founding Civility Partners, she and her team have worked with more than 250 organizations, including Chevron, NASA, Stanford University, and more. 👉 If this resonates, share it. Silence protects systems that harm.FULL VIDEO:https://youtu.be/6eVFjvd4oHMFOR MORE INSPIRATION:https://www.instagram.com/janeapplegathYOUTUBE: https://bit.ly/4jqFLbiSpotify, iTunes and more. https://bit.ly/3Ey8bAW💬 Drop a comment: Let’s make it loud, clear, and totally YOU. 🔥👇 CONNECT WITH CATHERINE MATTICEhttps://catherinemattice.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinemattice/https://www.facebook.com/CivilityPartners/https://www.instagram.com/civilitypartners/https://x.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2FCivilityCPhttps://www.tiktok.com/@civilitypartners
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IF FEAR IS BUILT INTO THE JOB, THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN.“If your workplace protects profit over people, it’s not safe, no matter what the policy says.”CATHERINE MATTICE, Founder & CEO of Civility Partners, was an expert witness in a case where airline attendants sued over sexual harassment by pilots. Their request: separate hotels for safety.THE ANSWER? “THAT’S NOT COST-EFFECTIVE.”When an organization decides profit matters more than women feeling safe in their beds at night, that’s not leadership. That’s a system telling women to absorb fear quietly.It’s not simply about not opening the door. Fear doesn’t need permission. Your nervous system keeps the score.A toxic workplace policy says: endure it.We don’t need better training.We need better standards. This is leadership speaking.CATHERINE MATTICE, Founder & CEO of Civility Partners, is dedicated to helping leaders transform toxic workplace cultures into respectful, high-performing environments. Since founding Civility Partners, she and her team have worked with more than 250 organizations, including Chevron, NASA, Stanford University, and more. 👉 If this resonates, share it. Silence protects systems that harm.FULL VIDEO:https://youtu.be/6eVFjvd4oHMFOR MORE INSPIRATION:https://www.instagram.com/janeapplegathYOUTUBE: https://bit.ly/4jqFLbiSpotify, iTunes and more. https://bit.ly/3Ey8bAW💬 Drop a comment: Let’s make it loud, clear, and totally YOU. 🔥👇 CONNECT WITH CATHERINE MATTICEhttps://catherinemattice.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinemattice/https://www.facebook.com/CivilityPartners/https://www.instagram.com/civilitypartners/https://x.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2FCivilityCPhttps://www.tiktok.com/@civilitypartners
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