Think Grey, Lead Boldly - A conversation on decision-making, hiring, and legacy with Derek Maxson | Ep. 6 episode artwork

EPISODE · Feb 18, 2026 · 48 MIN

Think Grey, Lead Boldly - A conversation on decision-making, hiring, and legacy with Derek Maxson | Ep. 6

from The Surthrivalist Podcast with Zach Wise · host surthrivalistpodcast

What do parenting, product development, and personnel decisions all have in common? They’re shaped by how we think—and how long we’re willing to wait before acting. Zach is joined by long-time mentor and friend Derek Maxson, co-founder of Front Porch and coach to pastors and churches. Together, they revisit the books and ideas that shaped their leadership, discussing everything from hiring practices to humility in marriage. If you’ve ever struggled with impulsivity, burnout, or big decisions, this episode will help you slow down, zoom out, and move forward with wisdom. Resources Mentioned: Books mentioned in this episode: The Contrarian's Guide to Leadership – Steven Sample (https://amzn.to/475o11u) Good to Great – Jim Collins (https://amzn.to/4otN1Fw) The Lean Startup – Eric Ries (https://amzn.to/3Wjb5yT) The Four Steps to the Epiphany – Steve Blank (https://amzn.to/4nnS7C6) Halftime – Bob Buford (https://amzn.to/4oclWqA) The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People – Stephen R. Covey (https://amzn.to/479ZnNj) Living Forward – Michael Hyatt & Daniel Harkavy (https://amzn.to/4hvgRqT) Buy Back Your Time – Dan Martell (https://amzn.to/478BTrR) The Ideal Team Player – Patrick Lencioni - (https://amzn.to/3Jnqr2f) Atomic Habits - James Clear (https://amzn.to/3L4f001) Resources & Links Learn more about Derek and his pastoral coaching: https://www.revital.church/ Apply to be coached on the podcast: https://smallbizsurthrival.com/podcast Subscribe on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@smallbizsurthrival Subscribe to The Surthrivalist Podcast: https://smallbizsurthrival.com/podcast Schedule a free 15-minute chat with Zach - https://calendly.com/surthrival/chat-with-zach Apply to be coached on The Surthrivalist Podcast - https://smallbizsurthrival.com/podcast Connect with The Surthrivalist: Website: https://smallbizsurthrival.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/smallbizsurthrival LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zjwise YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@smallbizsurthrival

What do parenting, product development, and personnel decisions all have in common? They’re shaped by how we think—and how long we’re willing to wait before acting. Zach is joined by long-time mentor and friend Derek Maxson, co-founder of Front Porch and coach to pastors and churches. Together, they revisit the books and ideas that shaped their leadership, discussing everything from hiring practices to humility in marriage. If you’ve ever struggled with impulsivity, burnout, or big decisions, this episode will help you slow down, zoom out, and move forward with wisdom. Resources Mentioned: Books mentioned in this episode: The Contrarian's Guide to Leadership – Steven Sample (https://amzn.to/475o11u) Good to Great – Jim Collins (https://amzn.to/4otN1Fw) The Lean Startup – Eric Ries (https://amzn.to/3Wjb5yT) The Four Steps to the Epiphany – Steve Blank (https://amzn.to/4nnS7C6) Halftime – Bob Buford (https://amzn.to/4oclWqA) The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People – Stephen R. Covey (https://amzn.to/479ZnNj) Living Forward – Michael Hyatt & Daniel Harkavy (https://amzn.to/4hvgRqT) Buy Back Your Time – Dan Martell (https://amzn.to/478BTrR) The Ideal Team Player – Patrick Lencioni - (https://amzn.to/3Jnqr2f) Atomic Habits - James Clear (https://amzn.to/3L4f001) Resources & Links Learn more about Derek and his pastoral coaching: https://www.revital.church/ Apply to be coached on the podcast: https://smallbizsurthrival.com/podcast Subscribe on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@smallbizsurthrival Subscribe to The Surthrivalist Podcast: https://smallbizsurthrival.com/podcast Schedule a free 15-minute chat with Zach - https://calendly.com/surthrival/chat-with-zach Apply to be coached on The Surthrivalist Podcast - https://smallbizsurthrival.com/podcast Connect with The Surthrivalist: Website: https://smallbizsurthrival.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/smallbizsurthrival LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zjwise YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@smallbizsurthrival

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