EPISODE · Jun 12, 2025 · 31 MIN
Think Like a Marketer, Lead Like an L&D Pro: Bianca Baumann on Learner-Centric Strategy and Visibility
from Catalysts: The Leaders Shaping the Future of Learning and Growth · host Jacob Ratliff
In this episode of Catalysts, I sit down with Bianca Baumann, award-winning strategist, international speaker, and author of Think Like a Marketer, Train Like an L&D Pro. With over 15 years in the field, Bianca brings a rare blend of creativity, empathy, and business alignment to the way organizations approach learning.We talk about the mindset shifts that L&D teams need to make—starting with listening more and building for behavior change, not just content delivery.Inside the conversation:Why listening is the most underrated skill in L&DHow to balance long-term workforce strategy with short-term executionThe marketing principles every L&D leader should steal—todayWhy compelling writing is a non-negotiable for learning that sticksHow course titles, taglines, and narrative structure can dramatically increase engagementThe role of learner personas in driving motivation and performanceWhat executives still don’t understand about learning—and how to educate themWhy visibility and working out loud matter more than ever in L&D leadershipBianca also shares her own evolution as a leader, what she’s learned from mentoring teams, and the small actions that can make a big impact—especially for L&D professionals doing it all on their own.🎧 Listen now and subscribe to Catalysts—where we spotlight the leaders shaping the future of learning and growth.Connect with Bianca on LinkedIn »Connect & Learn More Connect on with me on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jacob-ratliff Position Yourself as a Thought Leader in Your Industry: executivebrandbuilder.com Interested in joining the show as a guest? Click here!
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