This AI Startup Hit $100M ARR Before It All Fell Apart

from Talk That Tech · host Trey Scott & Joseph Smith

In this episode of Talk That Tech, we break down what really happened inside the AI startup WinSurf, formerly known as Kodium. From achieving over $100M in annual revenue to losing a major deal at the last minute, this story is a raw look at startup life, founder culture, and the hard decisions that come with hypergrowth. You'll learn: How WinSurf pivoted from dev tools to AI agents The internal tension around ethics, equity, and loyalty What happens when you overpromise in the startup world Why you should always be interviewing, even when things seem stable If you're a tech founder, early employee, or just curious about what happens behind the scenes at high-growth companies, this story is for you.

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