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EPISODE · Jan 15, 2026 · 53 MIN

This CEO Says Travel’s Next Big Shift Isn’t AI — It’s Demographics

from Suite Success: Masters of Hospitality · host Skift

On this episode of Suite Success, host Katie Cline interviews Rafat Ali, CEO and Founder of Skift, to unpack the forces quietly reshaping travel right now, and why the most consequential shift has far less to do with technology than most people think. Rafat traces the unconventional path that led him from journalism to building Skift into the world’s leading travel intelligence platform, sharing the pivotal decisions, near-misses, and moments of reinvention that shaped the company over the last 13 years. From breaking major M&A stories to launching what’s now known as the “Davos of Travel,” he reveals what it really takes to build credibility, trust, and longevity in a global industry. The conversation goes deeper into leadership and media, including why scripted executives lose audiences instantly, what separates great interviews from forgettable ones, and how authenticity—not polish—has become the most valuable currency in public-facing leadership. Most importantly, Rafat offers a macro lens on where travel is headed next. Rather than chasing the loudest trends, he argues that demographic shifts, global population changes, and evolving social behavior will have a far greater impact on how—and why—people travel in the years ahead. This episode is a must-listen for founders, operators, and leaders who want to understand the signals beneath the noise—and stay ahead of the shifts already underway. This episode is brought to you by Lodgify! Connect with Rafat! Visit Skift.com to stay up to date with the latest travel industry news, trends, and insights! Links: Apple Podcasts - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Link⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Link⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Suite Success Website - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Link⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect with Katie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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