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Aug 10, 2025 41 min

This Is Not Normal

from Velshi Hosted by Abbe Lowell, Barbara McQuade, Norman Ornstein, Ali Velshi

The erosion of the Justice Department’s independence from the White House is on full display, after VP Vance met with DOJ brass to strategize about the Epstein files. Not only is this not normal, it’s dangerous for America; Trump’s latest round of Tariffs took effect on August 1, but how exactly will they affect everyday consumers? Defense Attorney Abbe Lowell weighs in on the DOJ’s probe of his newest client, New York Attorney General Letitia James. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts.

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Ali Velshi is joined by former U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade, political scientist Norm Ornstein, Investopedia’s Caleb Silver, and Abbe Lowell (defense attorney for NY Attorney General Letitia James)

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