I like to use a thumbnail that I looked stupid or a title that maybe sound like an idiot and I was like Ben I don't like that. It goes. Oh, you thought that selling out to the algorithm was gonna feel good We're live. Let's do this.
You want to get ready to Twitter? No, yeah, let's get into to it. Wait Let me take something really quick. I just remembered I was gonna tell you about this.
I did a body fat scam the other day yesterday Okay Bad news for all of us man. Why what happened? I was 15% Why is that for all of us because of your 50%? Like that sucks for everyone else That's just because people bullshit like people were like, oh, I'm 6% body fat and then like doctors like no You were not 6% body fat you would be like, you know, sick if you're 60 6% body fat.
That's just not the case So I think like what people say is 6 to 8% body fat is actually 12 to 15 or like 12 to 14 or something like that and I think 15 is great. I was 26 last time we did a deck to scan 26 times I'm like that and my goal was actually I don't even remember what I think my goal was to get under 25 I was 28 or something like that. I was amazed at how high I do it every three months. That's good I was a made amazed at how high mine was it up because like I don't feel like completely ripped But I feel like fit like I don't have a stomach anymore and it was still 15 I was shocked.
We've all seen the picture if you go to my Twitter We've all seen the picture your rip you're actually the perfect amount of ripped because you know There's obnoxious ripped where if you look like I mean this guy just it's like a girl who's like Got like hair extensions nail extensions and like tons of makeup caked on It's like oh, they're sort of trying to harden it's like a high maintenance person that I really want like I don't really want to go out to dinner with you because you're just gonna order like broccoli and you know like raw chicken or whatever So, you know, you're like the right amount where it's like oh man He might live an active lifestyle like maybe he surfs and like maybe that's why It doesn't look like someone who is like, you know, Jim bro who just lives in the gym four hours a day and everything centers around that And they're like well the point is that it just shocked me at 15% But I just wanted to let you know that that happened You're officially canceled as a fitness influencer. You can't be a fitness influencer 50 I know 12 is okay anything above 12. I gotta get my shit together. Let's talk you can just do it as the start of your fitness journey It's just I'm still a before I know you're a before I feel like I've been a before picture for the past five years I'm still a before fuck Damn, we already said there's before before before before before before there's a before you're a before now I'm just gonna you're more like an after I'm now a before but I was a before before Not about my That Alright, so we're gonna what's the what's the topic of what's the the title of this segment the title of the segment is Sam and Sean cross one million downloads a month for the podcast they get intoxicated by the growth We're on pace for 1.3 right now smashing old record highs of 900,000 and with this intoxicating growth They say we're gonna whore out double down and we're gonna make a list And so we're gonna do list episodes.
That's what's actually happening here now What list did we decide to start with well? We didn't go ultra tantalizing ultra drama filled lists to begin with we're going with our favorite Twitter followers I think we're gonna have 12 is a 12 total. So our 12 Twitter follows that we recommend now These are gonna be I think in most cases not the obvious people so you're not gonna my goal is even there's a lot of people Don't even on Twitter So if you're not on Twitter, maybe start or not You know just subscribe to my five-twig today newsletter if you're not doing that if you're on Twitter I bet at least half of these are gonna be people you don't already follow that's my guess That's my goal if we do this right so they should be kind of under the radar right and start I'm gonna talk about why we like these people's feeds and some stuff that we've seen from them That's pretty cool. So we'll go back and forth.
Let's start with candidate number one Are we going in order of like no best? No, okay, so mine are a little bit more popular than yours. So okay How do you have you have five? No, I only have three Okay, I was like research.
Well, no, here's the problem. I was from Sam I was researching I was trying to find ones that people the ones I love are people that everyone knows but It's like well, you might have to bring up a few or I think I bet when I say some you're gonna think of some other just based off that Okay, so we're just gonna name 12 ish of them We're gonna go back and forth let's trade off until Sam runs out So I'll go first because you're gonna run out faster otherwise. So okay first person on my list of Twitter Twitter people I think you should follow is post market. Do you follow post markets post underscore market?
No, by the way, you follow thousands of people I follow up until recently I was following zero people literally zero now. It's cool. I just I was getting addicted Okay, so I have a list and this person on my list So it's a post market is an anonymous account and or like a pseudonymous account I should say so it's not like a this is not their real name or whatever post underscore market What we're gonna put the full list in the description of this podcast if you want to find them You can do that or maybe what we'll do is we create a Twitter list that you can just subscribe to that might be easier So who's this person? I don't know what they do by day, but there's something in the financial world stock, you know a trader hedge one person I don't know what it says exactly in their bio But basically what they do is they have like hot takes on the market and it's not like hot takes like CNBC where it's like oh You know the Dow is up five points a it's like basically they'll take a stock and they'll just rip it to shreds If it doesn't make any sense so like for example the like one of their one of their ones that they were killing right now is something called Grove collaborative.
I don't know if you saw this it's like a it was like a DTC brand It was like one of the winning DTC brands. There's a unicorn it goes public and then here's the tweet it says Please make it stop. Here's a mostly DTC organic cleaning products business It's doing 6% revenue growth at 2 billion valuation has no plan to make profit anytime soon and a greater than 5% 5x sales multiple Grove collaborative not gonna make it And then it basically pulls out things from their like investor presentation that show like a fairly slow growth low margin business That is overvalued what does the collaborative make? I've never heard that they're kind of like a subscription almost like a Whole Foods Costco type of model where you can go buy products From them.
I believe what valuation are they trying to get? I'm trying to get there publicly traded at you know To build or whatever takes okay, that's okay fine And so and so this person because they're synonymous they can just kind of talk about whatever they want They're not really they don't pull any punches and so like they'll go after They'll go after like chamat for you know Most people are kind of afraid to like poke the bear in a way But chamat in reality had a bunch of really shitty specs where he made a bunch of money and people who invested in his Spacks on the whole like just got ripped to shreds this year and And and so this post-market account will like call out basically bad stocks bad behavior across the board in the stock market So I like that for example our buddy Moyes tweeted something he goes honest company with public in 2021 It raised 400 million that day the shares closed at a valuation of 2.7 billion since that day It's lost 2 billion in value and is now worth less than 800 million And then he says public markets are brutal be careful if you idea and post-market replied and said public markets are not brutal Private markets are a facade and it's like I like the I like the hot takes I like the intelligence and I like that they don't pull punches. All right. I like this one.
Yeah, I'm gonna subscribe All right, I'm gonna give you one see some of mine are popular But I'm gonna give you three examples of why I like them. Remed safety you follow me on Twitter I don't follow I actually do follow him on Twitter. Yeah, so there's two reasons why he's amazing the first is when people criticize him He'll sometimes say that's a good criticism. I'll be like no, you're an idiot for these following reasons Right and he also that's reason number one So he's an entertaining follow and reason number two is he tweets out loads of personal finance stuff and he'll find an article That's going viral and if he disagrees with it which oftentimes he does he'll explain why it's bullshit for example a lot of people Particularly people who aren't necessarily wealthy have financial advisors who charge 1% and he'll tweet out a whole thread about why that's Total bullshit and you shouldn't pay 1% advisor the second thing everyone talks about buying a home and how it's a wonderful investment And he'll tweet out this awesome math saying no buying homes not an investment buying home is like buying a car or something like that Where you should just use it and not do it for financial reasons because more often than that it's not a good investment at all And finally he's got this really cool tweet on how to automate money So I actually link to it that she and I actually set up my my accounts based off that tweet So what do you mean about how to automate money?
What does that mean? So click so click I believe it was this one where it says How he like like where the money goes like for example We do have your bank account set up so like a percentage goes here a percentage goes there or like your your paycheck No, you really so where's your money go to but I don't get a paycheck But you're you get paid for the hops on a podcast you get paid for your business So where's your income go to straight to a checking account straight to a check account and then your boy moves it into whatever Investments I want to make really yeah I think you need a read some Ruby set these up because like it's your way should work It's like all your money should go or not you can do however you want All the way oftentimes I think it's easier is your money should go to a checking account And then it takes money out and like let's say that you have a really simple setup put this much in Well front put this much in a mutual fund. What do you even use to do that to anyone? That's a possibility that you automate the like clawing out of your checking into various other services Yeah, you can do it with coin base if you want to do an automatic thing for coin Okay, so what you do is you go in those services you go into well front you said I'd like to do a auto-saver plan And you just a CH connect yeah, exactly and you just set it up So it's all I mean it's just like basically like you know based off of your monthly income roughly that you want this much cash In your checking count at all times and it automatically you kind of know roughly the intervals of when you're gonna get cash Funnel into so the one of the reasons I didn't do that was one of when I was getting the last thing I had last job I had when I was at twitch one of the major sources of income was just stock RSU's I were going into Amazon stock like automatically so that was already that was already there And I wasn't selling because my basis for when I when we got acquired was lower than the amount at the RSU grant I didn't want to sell and rebalance because it was gonna trigger taxes on those gains As the price can have you sold any of those shares I sold a small amount of 15% are you ever gonna sell any of them?
I hope not yeah, I'm on that big bar Now so you know that's that that's that new game plan. It's awesome, right? Yeah, it's also though. It's not awesome.
It's probably the right answer like most things Okay, I'm just gonna read these remotes my rules. All right have one year of emergency fund cash, okay fair enough I don't but yeah, you can save 10 10% invest 20% of your gross income you do that or you hire Much higher. Yeah, pay cash for large expenses 20% down minimum on a house. Okay, yes I do that never question that spending my own books appetizers health or donate to a friends charity I agree completely business class reflects over four hours agree completely No limit for spending on health or education agree completely by the best and keep it for as long as possible I disagree with that really I either buy the best or I buy extremely cheap disposable where I don't have any stress about it because I Didn't invest hoping it was gonna be the right like a barbell like I'll give an example for black Friday There's this brand called 32 degrees.
Do you know them? No, it's a Costco. They're like the Costco brand of under armor Or like Nike stuff now is it off? They make like athletic wear and it's actually like pretty good But I don't think it lasts as long as lulu lemon.
It doesn't last like yeah Like it's just not gonna have that same durability But I like their stuff like I like it when I wear it and it fits well Whatever fits well for me. So I you know for black Friday. They have this insane deal where like everything goes down like 85% They just want to move all their inventory So you'll go buy like whatever like athletics, you know like a hoodie or like a fitted, you know I thought long sleeve shirt or whatever and it'll be like $4.99 and so I just load up so I buy like almost a thousand dollars Worth of 32 degrees stuff that day you can see in my floor here There's just pile the boxes came and there's piles come out like it's as if I'm a wholesaler for them And so I'll buy like 15 of the pants. I like about like 25 of the shirt I like and because of that I don't worry about like a losing anything getting a stain on anything something wearing out I bought this so much laundry.
You have to do though. I got a cleaner for the laundry, bro Alright, alright, okay, all right. I know it's bad for the real argument is it's terrible for the environment and like you know fair enough But you know birds gotta fly so here we go I Was last to his last three rules earn enough to work only with people I respect I like I think that's a great rule Mary the right person. Okay fair enough doesn't seem like a money rule, but I get it Prioritize time outside the spreadsheet.
What does that mean? Um so like when you're I do I have a problem with this all time I'm constantly I have a spreadsheet with all my net worth in my finances I'm constantly optimizing it and I like do different scenarios like oh and five here if five years if this happens I'm working here if it goes worst case scenario We're gonna be here therefore we should do this this and that so I'm like constantly tinkering with it and doing I'm like Oh 3% if you only spend 3% of your net worth over this many years, but it goes by this that means by the time we're 50 We're gonna have this right and that takes like that's it takes up so much time. It's so fun though I see and also this wealth of I just think so we both have the same advisor, but he doesn't charge us any feet Right, no, but he only gets paid if we buy some of the funds that he's gonna sell us right? Okay, it's pretty sick, right?
I think that's kind of a hack. I think that's a great deal Okay, so let's do let's do another person. Okay, so you got we have post-market. We have a meet.
I'm gonna do another one Let me do Okay, I'm gonna give you a double double dose because they're kind of the same same type of account So my buddy George Mac and then there's this account called marketing examples. Do you follow these no? What is this one marketing? So So marketing examples this guy I would say is one of the best content creators On the internet.
What's the handle? I think it's just marketing examples is it good is it Harry's marketing? So there's this guy Harry dry he works with us sometimes I think we I discovered him a long time ago and we tried hiring him and it didn't work out but we love him Yeah, I really really respect I don't know this person. I don't know well.
I'm damn just kind of showing respect I don't think most people know him. He's not like widely He's young I don't know it's like the circle jerk of like we all kind of like the same things in the same circles I think he's like 18 or 19. Yeah, I think it's probably a little bit if whatever he is. He's amazing his content is so good I Think most people when I see their content.
I'm sort of cocky where I'm like I could do better If I want to do I could do better I see his shit and I say oh I should be copying things He's doing so that's like a very very high compliment in my book where I want to copy your shit but I think you're doing such a good job so so I think he's his accounts really great and And then George George Mac is similar in that George Mac basically tweets out kind of like cool marketing hacks mental models just interesting stories and It's a George is really really good as well, and he's also kind of like outside the scene meaning like he wasn't he's not a Silicon Valley person He's not a founder of VC that like isn't super well connected in this area But I think has earned a lot of people's Twitter respect, you know, he's probably got I don't know what the 70,000 followers I don't know what it is So George is really good also so they're the ones I would say to follow if you want examples of what good content marketing is as well as Kind of like marketing slash psychology hacks is what I would call them. Yeah, this guy Harry Dry has some of the best stuff He's like she just basically takes landing pages and he goes This is why this is good and he does it very simply seen as his Kanye West thing. What did he do? I'm like a band pull this up go to the Kanye West story calm.
I think that's what it's called So basically this is like a blog post that he just like tricked out It's like exhibit knock on the door and was there to pimp his blog and I'm a bit of the domain wrong. It's not the Kanye story calm Yeah, the Kanye story calm, and it's basically this epic website blog post That's just like a scrolling story about the day he got in touch with Kanye West and how it all went down And so it's like it starts with this like epic photo Kanye that you scroll and it's like a slide It's like from lying in bed with zero ideas to negotiate with the biggest superstar on planet earth And then it's got this little like outline on the left like the idea going viral coating it launching it reborn billboards Easy, and then it says those are the chapters of this story And he just tells a great very simple, you know hustler story But I just love this like domain the way he designed this blog again This guy's an artist and I'm like I really respect him and when I come up with it I think I like use him as one of my mood boards of inspiration of like something that I'll copy or else I'll steal inspiration from the least this gets amazing. Yeah, he's 25 years old I think I want to do something like launch something with this guy I don't know I my new thing is like I find people who are just awesome I find an excuse to collab with them and I would put both your January and that bucket all right your turn All right, we're gonna go with the pessimistic. What's it's called the pessimist?
What's the full one the pessimist archive? That's what it's called the handle is like this pessimistic pessimist arc So basically what it is is it's incredibly fascinating because it's a Twitter handle that looks back at history and brings up topics that people complain about today So for example, there's a tweet from November 16th 1918 or a news article And it says I would rather spend the rest of my life in jail than wear one and it's talking about a guy Who doesn't want to wear a flu mask and then there's another example of someone saying like Oh, here's a quote from Martin Luther King saying like, you know, there's too many books out there people are trying to write too much and become famous And it's basically he's talking about like influencers and it's kind of funny And then there's this is great There'll be another one where it's like technology is just gonna kill our brains and they're like referring to like a telephone And so it's real and so if you read just the tweet part You would think that they're talking about now But then they show you a different year and then they show you a picture of the article and it's from a newspaper from the 1800s And so it's kind of cool because people complain about the same shit all the time And so you'll think like oh our country's more divided divided than ever or like the wealth gap is like crazy or I'm probably saying that it's like yeah, all those things could be true But like oftentimes people think it's worse than ever before and maybe that's not the case because people have been complaining about the same shit forever Like okay There's one with school shooters and it's like The you know these guys were addicted to books and they were reading these these gory books And that's why they shot up there like their local town instead of video games are blaming like this on the novel the dime novels Whatever those are and it really and my takeaway here is two two things the first thing is that? We react this oftentimes human beings react the same through for centuries And if you study why people react the way they do you can begin to predict to predict this And so if I can I figure out in history what have been some of the common reactions to action x y and z I can kind of look into the future and or the present time being like okay I think people are gonna react by doing blank blankity blank because that's just how we're wired The second thing that does it like brings you to like senses a little bit We're like okay I need to be calm people complain about this literally for 150 years and we're doing okay and so that's interesting And I was reading this book human nature by Robert Green then I don't know if you're this enough maybe you can tell me But I'm almost positive somewhere in this book that they said that one of the very first bits of written language that they found Was a people complaining about the younger generation and how they aren't gonna keep the cultures at the old or keep the traditions That the older generation has created you know I mean this idea of like old people complain about young people being lazy like one of the very first evip pieces of evidence of Written language. It was a story of complaining about that.
So anyway, I like seeing those patterns. So that's mine Yeah, that's a history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. Yes, and that's that's like what this account is you know In a nutshell, there's some really great ones on this I have a similar stash in my swipe file that I've been keeping for years I kind of forgot to update it recently, but it was called smart people saying dumb things and I would go to Anytime somebody who is clearly smart and successful said something that was very wrong So for example, you know Warren Buffett was very very dismissive of like, you know certain technologies But you know Bitcoin today before that you know internet technology stocks that he just didn't understand that he didn't understand them and so therefore made some disparaging comments or Like a great deal you're predicting like a crisis in 80s Yeah Or you know Steve bomber laughing and say you know He's cackling and saying nobody will ever buy a thousand dollar phone like they just don't get Apple Apple fail or whatever So I did that partly because there's like in the moment There's like a junk food fun of it, which is like, huh. Yes, wrong, you know, there's a joy when when somebody successful Is pointed out to be very wrong about something but there's more than that the real reason I did it was to remind myself that like it's very easy to kind of go into hero worship mode and To idolize certain people or put them on a pedestal and just because you're smart one thing doesn't mean you're smart another or just Because you're right a lot doesn't mean you're right all the time It's a very important lesson because I made big mistakes like for example, I think I've missed out I bought Tesla stock very early on like I bought it under a hundred dollars a share and I think if you're just for the split I think it's now over like five thousand dollars share So I think I would have made about five million dollars on a stock buy that I had really if I just held and The reason I didn't hold wasn't because I wanted to take profits It was because I got spooked by first There was like a lot of people at a given time that were called Tesla Q you know about that was that the thing where they said that like That it's fake like the factory.
Yeah, but it's not that the factories are fake But there's sort of like fraud deception that fundamentals don't make sense and that Tesla's gonna go to zero That's the guy like spreading those exactly so Josh There's mostly anonymous accounts on Twitter and Reddit and so I read it and I was like okay I always want to learn what is the other side? I'm so bullish on Tesla I did this at this point. I wasn't even anywhere near where it is today, right? And so it was like okay You know Tesla's gone from $90 a share I bought it to $380 a share great But like you know I still think it's got a lot of room to run and and I was reading I always want to know What is the what do people who disagree with me saying what's their argument?
Do I believe it and so I read it and I was like oh there is some weird stuff like wow they've gone through 25 CFOs Like that sounds strange like why does the CFO keep leaving and like the people would have this like drone footage of like parking lots Just full of Tesla's that they're taking like why are they stashing Tesla's in these parking garage? Look at this every car in the six-door cart garage is a Tesla. Why is it here? Why are they are they faking deliveries and sales like what is it?
So there's a lot of like wait so if there's fire was there any truth in any of us honestly? Oh, here's my mistake. I actually think there was a lot of truth to what was going on I think that and the reason why I say this is I don't think it's as bad as they said But I also don't think it's as good as Tesla portrayed it meaning I think there actually was a period of time where Tesla almost died We're actually almost into bankrupt because of like the combination of the production ramp up was going to slow They had the production line was not moving fast enough The subsidies were there But they could have gone away and like all this stuff and I think there was like a lot of kind of like You know fake until you make it going on there And Elon has even come out and said in the past he goes who's talking about when when clean tech was big and the government was Giving money to this thing is called cylinder or something like that and he came out and he said same thing happened with Enron Where was like five weeks before it went under they were like not just saying everything's gonna be okay They were saying everything's better than ever and he and he long came out I was sort of like what do you want people to say? He's like you know It is in the incentive of somebody of the captain of that ship to go down with the ship and the whole time be saying Oh, we're so close to our destination basically.
He was like they're never gonna come out and say yeah We don't know we might not make it because then that will guarantee you don't make it because people will sell the stock It'll put so much negative pressure in the company It'll hurt the morale inside the company and so you can't ever come out and say I don't know we might not make it So you always have to say make it of course We're gonna make it we're thriving and like you just hope it actually comes true He said something to that effect in an interview once I read and I was like I feel like he's describing what actually was going on inside That's amazing. It was a long story short was I didn't believe it didn't believe it didn't believe it I was sort of like reading it, but I didn't pull the trigger and then Josh wolf this guy's a very very smart guy Successful VC not an anonymous Twitter egg account who's like just shorting the stock and trying to like spread fear He was really shitting on it consistently for the course of a year And at some point I was like, you know, what will I regret more selling the stock now and taking my profit if I'm wrong or Seeing all these signals and not like going with what seems to be a mounting amount of evidence How much did you buy guess what I was wrong Tesla becomes a real world Tesla becomes a 600 billion dollar company I bought it at a six billion dollar valuation or something crazy like that and so you know I missed out on a 50-100 X you know somewhere along the way and And it's yeah, I do regret actually turned out to be wrong. I would have regretted more this scenario happening But it seemed improbable wait, so you bought a hundred grand worth of Tesla stock. I didn't buy a hundred grand I think I bought like I don't know what was it wasn't a hundred I don't think that's not what I was buying back then because this was like I was like 23 years old or something at the time It was a long time ago and basically I think I bought like 30 or 40 grand of the stock at a certain price and I remember doing The math and thinking okay, they're valued at like five or six billion now.
What is Ford and GM valued? Okay, they're valued at 25 billion. Okay on one hand that seems crazy that they're only five times less when they deliver like 200 cars, but I was like I really think like cars are gonna go electric these old fucks are never gonna switch and He's got this like vertically integrated. It's actually a battery and energy company It's not even a car company and this was before self driving So was a good baby.
Yeah, but you know you get it wrong you get it wrong So I got my face and by the way on this note of the pessimist archive I saw this YouTube video that was I don't know if you heard about this a few years ago Elon Musk negotiated a very unique Compensation package. Do you know about this? Yeah, basically he got some crazy bonuses of some crazy goals happened Yes, so he had he had set up this thing where he gets absolutely his entire compensation was tied to the the market cap of Tesla and like it was at 50 billion I think at the time when he had done it and It was like every 50 billion dollars increments. He was gonna get more and so I got if I get us to 100 billion then I get X I think he would get like 1% or 2% more of the company each time I should I didn't know where to talk about this I could have mapped it out But basically he was gonna get a percentage more of the company for every 50 billion they go up in market cap And they also have to hit certain like revenue and earnings At that time and he had no guaranteed income So basically if Tesla just went from 50 to 99 billion he would get zero during that time And he had five years to do it and the top of the compensation plan was if they became a six hundred billion dollar company That he was gonna become like he was gonna get this like he would own like 10% of it He would own some ridiculous amount that would unlock for him and he would be essentially the rich man world and there's all these There's this clip of air was an Andrew Sorkin or whatever his name is the guy on CNBC fast money or whatever Of them to they're outlining the plan and they're laughing.
They're just laughing at him They're like I don't even know why they included these tears like for Tesla to get that would be I mean there's no way and they're all laughing There's no chance and they're like this is such a weird thing Why did he do this and they're like basically laughing at him and saying how outrageous the top end of it was We're just made no sense like well to do that type of a Tesla need to become like the fifth most valuable company in the world It's their most valuable company in the world and they're like that's ridiculous But I guess you know, I guess ha ha ha ha ha ha ha No guaranteed compensation of any time at any kind at all he gets a salary cash bonus equity He only gets equity that that vests over time But only if he reaches these hurdle rates which are there I say crazy so right now the company's worth $59 billion They run at $50 billion increments So if he gets the company to $100 billion just talking market capitalization now based on revenue And based on the number of production there's gonna be two metrics at each step So the first step is he has to get the company to $100 billion and reach these operational and adjusted e-bita and revenue number If he doesn't get either of them he gets nothing that's kind of a weird way to break it down based on market He gets to 150 and has to hit the operational numbers I mean the market can be irrational so it's 50 at each 50 billion dollar number he collects 1% of the company if somehow magically He would get the company to $650 billion Which is literally what the plan calls for if you can believe this he would collect the equipment about $55 billion Otherwise he gets absolutely Like you get it to $600 billion in an intermediate And then sure enough he's like I think he just hit it or he's about to hit that last final thing and sure enough He's a rich man of the world now. That's badass bad on yourself. I need to go back Well, if you're him All right, I'm gonna tell you what a handle that would have helped you so you know who Ryan holiday is definitely right Yes, right holiday is an author just kind of like a personality But mostly an author and he goes stoicism stuff and I included him But I'm gonna actually tell you the one you should file So I like Ryan holiday because he's got these things that are not business related But help me in business and help me in life and so he's got five lessons from Seneca Seneca was a Greek I actually don't know what he was. He's a philosopher and so they are we suffer.
What was he I think it was great I didn't look at Roman then. Thank you. We suffer more imagination five stoic lessons from Seneca We suffer more in imagination than reality associate only with people who improve you the greatest remedy for anger This is the best one the greatest remedy for anger is the lay nice value your time more than your possessions And that is not in the distant future. We are dying every day and he's got these amazing things that I love But he's got this other Twitter handle called the daily stoic I love the daily stoic and they just like tweet out all these like interesting stoicism That's his right.
It's his brand is his and it's incredibly useful this stuff is like it's one of the stoicism It's one of the few philosophies that's like actively it's practical and you could use on a daily basis And so I like filing this account it reminds me to do certain things So it's a correct me from wrong so I had heard about stoicism from Ryan holiday to affairs much others So I go I buy meditations by Marcus really is I sit down start to read it I'm sort of just trying to understand what the heck is this philosophy and there were some things I thought really cool like the Tweet that treat you just read out those five principles like that resonates with me But there was like a part of it which is sort of like field neither the highs nor the low it seemed almost like a Philos and I think I'm wrong so I want you to correct me. It seemed like a philosophy which is sort of like feel nothing Yeah, and I think that you're almost right seem very fun. Why do I want to feel nothing? So that might be that's my big actually a really good criticism in my opinion of stoicism and it's my criticism of stoicism Which is a lack of joy and a lot of stoics This is the steel arm steel manning by the way a lot of stoics will say no like there's joy Like if you read it differently, there's room for joy or they never say you can't have joy and they're not wrong But oftentimes it's how to deal with pain and misery and the idea is basically you accept the fact that you're gonna come into contact With a bunch of idiots all day who are gonna want to hurt you and steal from you But that's okay.
You do like a negative visualization right you like imagine things going wrong which again just feels very not so fun for me And not that's not a formula that's worked for me. The exact opposite has worked for me That formula has worked for me actually so what I do is like all right today. I've got cancer I can't get out of bed because I'm like harsh you do this every day I do it a lot or be like look like like like if I'm feeling sad I'll be like my I just got my leg cut off like I can't walk I wish I'd be like wait a minute I have both legs. I don't feel sick.
Let's celebrate an exercise or you know what I mean? Or like you know, I'm happy my dog is not dead and I'll go and it may appreciate him. Yeah, it's called negative visualization I think it's incredibly useful. There's a this is to me.
I will disagree with this There's a this to me is the argument of well, there's kids starving in Africa like in any given moment You could just sort of remember all this kid starving in Africa This kid starving in Africa. I my boyfriend broke up with me well At least I'm not gonna start in Africa and and I get the utility of it. I've used it myself But in my experience I've learned that it's a bit of a roundabout way to a destination of gratitude and like you don't have to go to Feeling the stress and the pain and the suffering of bad in order to feel the gratefulness around the good And so I found it I guess my personal experience has been I think it's a roundabout way to gratitude and like I might as well Just go straight to gratitude don't need to don't need to think about all the bad things about all the bad things that could happen and go there It's not been useful for me I remember like when I get a sore throat I always feel this way and when I get like a toothache I'm like I wish I could go back to the days where my tooth didn't hurt like if you're like a toothache is like the most pain You could be in or sometimes and I'm like I like you're like I don't remember like sometimes it might if I have the women who have given birth I was gonna talk about with yeah, but like I think the worst thing you can feel Or like I like I might like whenever I get ear aches and toothaches I'm like you it's like this internal pain It's like I can't make the pain stop I just have to deal with it until I have an appointment in three days And then you get like two days in and you're like I don't remember what it felt like to not feel this pain And so I got into the habit I would be so thankful if I could if my throat didn't hurt today and I could just swallow food That would make me so happy and days when I don't I'm not sick I try to think back I'm like this is exactly what I wanted I want to feel happy that I'm not sick today And so I think about that stuff all the time so anyway Ryan holiday and the daily stoic is a good follow you're up all right By the way, I know we didn't do some justice for people who are like that hurts sorry People should like I don't think it is no motion. I think it's like more subtle than that But that's a really good.
I think your criticism is great Which is like I think a lot of people run into a lack of joy I did it and they're like wait wait wait is this what I want? Yeah, where's the room for fart jokes? You know I'm gonna give you two niche experts. They're in different niches, but I like them.
Okay, so I should link their accounts here for you to This first guy. I don't exactly how you say his name. His name is Aviro Bhatnagar And I'm gonna link you his Twitter. It's Aviro Bhat and I'm gonna put it So this guy Aviro Bhatnagar he is a venture capitalist in India and his blog is a junior VC calm This guy puts out really really high signal stuff around what's going on in India like for example He has a tweet that yesterday or that was India now exports more software 133 billion than Saudi Arabia exports oil 113 billion we have the largest engineering population in the world.
What amazing story that's come out of the last 40 years How'd you find this guy this is the best one's the best one the most helpful one on the list Yeah, and so like I I do a lot of investing in Indian startups and I was like, okay, if I'm gonna invest in new startups I'm not on the ground. I'm not the like local domain expert. So what did I do? I invested in a fund?
I became an investor in a somebody else's fund. That's India focus. I'm gonna get insights from him And I can bounce any deal off him to see if he wants to participate Maybe he has a local view that I don't understand and this was another guy that I thought was really smart So I wanted to find who I wanted to basically see who's the thought leader in that space and then how do I subscribe to them? And so his you know his like blog has 50,000 subscribers now So he's not like you know, no name, but he's very niche and he talks about kind of like an indexing and what's going on You know at a macro level whatever so I find this guy to be I think doing a really good job of consecration So I'm gonna pick this guy is there one niche is there such a thing as this or China?
I'm sure there is actually this is a good idea I should just like find this person for like latin for Europe for different parts of Europe and for India for China and for Australia Maybe so there is none be this guy this guy is a valuable position to become super valuable. There's a guy named bill Bishop I think his name is bill Bishop had a newsletter called Steinism. I think it's called you don't talk about no Sino sinosism. I don't know what that means sinosism S i n o c i s m for a long time He was the most popular guy on sub stack and his entire newsletter is it's called get smarter about China And he just tells you about the business of China and you can see all the latest trends coming out of China It would be great arbitrage to do by the way if you instead of trying to compete in the same pond as everybody else like go provide a really useful Bridge into one specific market or one specific geography Like I told the story before I think but like one of the most influential people in my life was a teacher Name Lisa keister at Duke University and she taught this class called getting rich and her story was she grads Name the class his name is class.
Yeah, everyone take that it was one of the hardest classes to get into because it was a great name Great title, right? So you already know this person not just like every other professor like she understands like her Customer market the second thing was it was she was the highest rated professor on like rate my professor comm and Great thing She had a chili pepper next to her name. She's like hot too. It was like oh it was everything So I wake up at five in the morning We go to the library to get on the highest speed internet connection and as soon as the course listings open up We like jumped on it and we got into this class and I go in and she was she tells her story She goes actually I was a student at Duke ten years ago or 11 years ago Whatever was she goes I graduated with a degree in Mandarin because that's what was interesting to me and at the time everybody's making fun I mean actually this is older than this now, but she started teaching back when she was like 32 or something now She might be 42 or 50 or something like that But she goes I graduated with this degree all my like friends were like good luck with that You know how's that Mandarin degree gonna help you out get a job here because I'm gonna go to med school I'm gonna be a lawyer.
I'm gonna be a consultant like what are you gonna do with that Chinese degree? She's like well, I bet I get a job in China and I like what and so she bought a one-way ticket just goes to China She just starts waving her hands like hey people in China like I know English I know companies in the West and I would love to learn about you and then be a bridge and she became a bridge based between companies in China If an American company wanted to do business China, they would do it through her because she like could translate the not just literally the language But like she knew who to talk to she became like the local expert there She'd be and this like to me this guy on Twitter He's my bridge and didn't know what's going on in the scene in India And so she what her story was she made a killing doing that is really valuable companies I'm trying to really wanted to do business with the companies in the West then she invested all of it in the tech in the tech Stock market She's like oh I can tell tech companies are the ones that are doing well She's you can and then right before the bubble burst she pulled it all out to be like I want to do real estate now and she was timed it perfectly accidentally invested all in real estate from 2008 right before the real estate Crash happens she took it again because she just wanted to do something else with her life And basically by 32 was retired and like you know was like what I want to do I want to go teach and teach kids what I wish I knew back then how well you got I Think she made like you know a few million dollars at least and like you know probably like five seven million dollars and like You know she lives in Durham and she teaches school. I mean I have no idea I'm totally guessing so the class was basically was you know like remita He was like personal finance which is like you probably need to teach what she wished you learn when she was in school I wish they taught you about how to manage money So she would show us like the power of compound interest over time Like why you should save early and versus saving more money when you're 30 versus saving even a little bit money when you're 20 And then like what is a mortgage and like how does that work and like then so and then every other class? She would just invite in someone who made it like someone who successful financially But doing a completely different thing just to expose you to like look there's like 50 paths It's like this podcast pretty much yeah One would be this girl who started a t-shirt company licensing university logos and she would tell her story then she got Jamie Diamond on the phone and like Jamie Diamond's like you know the head of whatever Or Like then she had this hedge one guy from San Francisco come out.
He's like yeah I he's like he surveyed the room he goes do you guys use Microsoft or Apple products and people answering he goes He asked like three questions and we were like why did you ask that he goes because then I'm only gonna make one decision This year and it's whether to invest like hundreds of millions of dollars into Apple or not and he's like so all I'm doing Is I'm just trying to figure out what is the right decision on that? I was like whoa That's a job. That's a that's epic and he had said in his when he was in the glass he goes by the way All you guys are gonna just have the same resume he goes you're all trying to do the same thing You're all trying to get grades and then like these internships. He's like so the first three fourths of your resume Think about it.
It's gonna look the same as everybody else in this room Like I'm not really gonna be able to tell the difference because the only thing that's gonna differentiate any of you is that Bottom section where it's called other like other interests He's like so at the school everybody's gonna teach you to like work on that top three fourths of the resume in reality You should be working on the bottom the bottom worth of that resume because that's what guys like me look at everybody's got a degree Everybody's got a good grades everybody went to a good school I've never I told you about the bottom fourth of the resume. No, what is that? That's so funny that you even use that fraction I always tell my when I own the company I would say I just care about the bottom fourth I'd always say just tell me this and I would always say that and I'd be like what are the greatest people That's me. How do you find good writers?
I was like well? Here's one really easy way ask about the bottom fourth and they go what do you mean? I was like well just it doesn't matter what they studied in school ask them Okay, so you made it in philosophy What's your favorite philosophy class or favorite philosophy teacher and if they can't tell me a story about something that they spent four years And hundreds of thousands of dollars on and they're just not gonna be a good writer because they're not interesting enough Right and so I would always ask about the bottom fourth of the resume for all types of roles Cuz I'm like if you're just if you can't entertain me for this conversation, then you just don't have any passion and I don't want to be around you Right That's amazing. Okay, so maybe this becomes one of the core frameworks That's like that, you know one one person saying it.
That's just a dot two people saying it. That's a line I interviewed I got that from a gold-brine Goldberg who founded bustle and he has this amazing article and he says it's headline Losers exists stay away from them and it's basically like how to only hire winners It's from panda from years and years ago and he's a brilliant writer But he doesn't write anymore because he's kind of a lose cannon But it was titled losers exist how to avoid them and it talks about one of the best ways to ask about the bottom fourth And if you're you're a loser if you can't like be passionate about something that you spent four years studying No, dude, this article is gone. It's it's it's panty. I like panda died.
Let me see if it's a cash version There is a cash version. Okay, we're back in luck. The headline is losers exist. Don't hire them.
Yeah, awesome Okay, let's do let's do a couple more. I'm gonna give a couple quick ones Okay, this other person who I think is a niche expert is this guy will you follow him? No, I'm looking up now I'm following all these people the Indian guys the best one so far, but let's look at willy woo Yeah, I don't think it's very crypto specific But this guy willy woo is I think the leading crypto analyst and you know in most things like these people who analyze charts and stuff like that They're like it's a little bit like horoscope either like look the trend is going this way and like if you draw this T shape It's gonna be the iron cross pattern and like you know, so bye bye bye and In crypto, there's one unique thing which is that all the data is a lot more transparency all the you know Everything that's happening is happening on a chain on a public blockchain So you can actually go analyze it so like he looks at all these metrics that are like You know, it won't just look at the price for example There's things like what is the actual average buy-in price because it's one thing for the price to go up or for people to like not be selling because They bought it in 2013 and they know their cost basis was like five dollars and your cost basis now is fifty thousand dollars So it looks like what the actual price people buying in what is the average price people bought in for and that tells you like if it's low Versus the actual price. You're like, okay, you know, it's mostly It's mostly just like same coins and old hands versus if it's higher you realize that people are buying in at the current price levels And that's pulling the average up and so there's a whole bunch of things like that like coin age like our old coins moving meaning like if OG Believers start selling that's kind of a signal like it's like when a CEO starts selling their stock It's like wait, why are you selling your stock?
That doesn't seem quite right What's the reason and so like when a bunch of old hands start selling that's actually a signal that comes before the Price changes it may not even affect the price yet, but it's an indicator of something to come So this guy's got all kinds of analysis and he's a lot more reasonable so crypto is full of especially crypto Twitter is full of like Just propaganda artists and they're good at it They're like they will make you believe that some random fucking NFT is the hottest shit because it's like one guy controlling 55 Body counts and they're all replying to every tweet that uses the word, you know art with like a link to their freaking project There's so much propaganda. There's so much noise and there's so many like just believers who if you say if I just go out there Just saying I say my price prediction for 2022 is six million dollars a coin I'll get a bunch of attention because people want to believe that I'm just gonna keep going up And so this guy is a lot more reasonable like he's still obviously a big believer He's super bullish on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general, but he grounds it at least and like real analysis And I find that to be quite valuable. I think that's cool. Is he what does this he like actually make predictions?
Yeah, he'll make predictions, but it's not he's not like he doesn't get to like intoxicated with his prediction of prediction It's more like let me explain the way things are moving and then when a move happens He'll explain what actually happened who actually was it a big one whale dumping was it a lot of old hands selling? What's causing this bear market? So say look there was actually a lot of leverage in China and Those got liquidated and that's what drove the price down and like you can see an explanation for like what otherwise feels like pretty arbitrary price movements That's better. Sorry.
Let me give you one. Yeah, Rohan. Dwar. I actually don't know how to spell roheens last day or say rovore he's last name It's D H A R.
So this guy found this company called price and I'm X. You remember price and I'm X Yes, I've followed this guy. This guy's good. Okay, so he's interesting price and I was interesting We actually recruited much people from there and I love that company I don't know if it's really around anymore, but just a blog but his new like started as a side hustle now It's kind of a full-time thing and I actually showed you two examples even to leave commenting on it And this guy he owns I think 12 or 10 or eight somewhere in that eight to 12 range He owns eight single family homes in New Mexico in California Hawaii wherever and you can go and look and he'll kind of show you where they are and I'll show pictures of them And he rents them out on Airbnb and sometimes when his kids are on vacation or not school He'll go and stay in his homes and he reveals all of the numbers and all of the updates So in December 6 each we did these are my monthly mortgage payments on each of the homes in my small portfolio vacation rentals Another one is he'll say like, you know currently We're seeing this type of occupancy rate and we actually just added a surfboard to our house in Hawaii And we notice that we could get more money for something like that And he takes screenshots and he shows all of the revenue that he's making as well as how much money things have cost Cost him to buy and he'll even do things like recently He posted a couple listings He's like I think I could turn this into an Airbnb and he'll just like link to the redfin House listening and he's like I think I can get these numbers So it's actually really cool to see him in real time make it all happen.
Yeah, I like this. This is awesome I didn't realize that he was doing this. It's kind of new. He's been adding for a while.
He's been adding for now His new shtick is only for six years, but he was probably he was as public about it He wasn't as public about it. He was not as public about it, but now he's like all in on it It's so fun. It's a really fun handle to follow because sometimes his properties are like a quarter of a million And he puts down 20% so he puts down or sometimes even less I think so put down like 40 or 50 thousand dollars on these properties and that's pretty attainable for a lot of people and so it's kind of interesting Right Okay, I have a okay. Let's do a couple funny ones Okay, have you heard of this account James Friedman?
It's F Jamie 013 Was it on this list? No, so what is it James Friedman? James Friedman or I don't know it's maybe Friedman but it's FRID At FRID a man. No So he is a two million followers.
He's definitely popular. He's the photoshopped guy So basically people will photoshop like hey James my boyfriend's wearing this california the same california shirt in every In every photo that we take with him. Can you just remove the logo of Calvin Klein? And then like he does the request but he doesn't he's not actually just photoshopping it He makes it hilarious so like it's very visual so you know you need like youtube to be able to see what I'm saying here But like he photoshopped the the guys wearing california shirt of like you know just across the just california jeans And so he like photoshopped it with that ripped off so that little section ripped off now you can just see his chest and It's like it actually like fucks up the photo.
It doesn't make it good like the girl wants And it's just california tattooed on his chest now instead of on the shirt And so it's like people will just be like, you know You know we here's my wedding photo But we forgot to wear a mask during a wedding photos can you photoshop a mask on instead of photoshopping a covid mask But like you know the remastered carries like the mask on their face It's just like people request it and then he does the like he does the request but he does it wrong in a way that they're not happy with They'll be like, you know, my my arms look too big here and then he'll make them like i'm certainly tiny or whatever And so it's just hilarious like i look funny with one arm and then so he just or you can't see my other arm So it looks funny with just one arm and so he just deletes the second arm Exactly and he has like a book or something like called the joy of photoshopped. It's it's asking the wrong guy for help This is awesome. This is cool. I've never seen that someone follow him You want to go do a few more quick funny ones Yeah, let's do another one.
We have a friend Nikita beer. He's pretty funny in like the tech world. What do you think is the count hilarious? He's a shithead Yeah, i'm actually amazed that he does some of the stuff that he does and that's why i like him Well, it's kind of like the Donald Trump rule right which is like you say one offensive or weird thing You know, you're canceled, but you say all offensive and weird things You're you get like, you know, you get the pass.
How did he get away? That's the key is like if every post makes fun of something that's cool If only one does then you're an asshole all of this stuff is making fun of something So I think it's a great follow and it's profile pictures hilarious Yes profile picture is It's good. Um, all right you want to do one more? Um Yeah, okay.
I like this one. I don't know if you know this guy I don't think you do. I don't know if you'd be interested in his name is harrala bob. What's he do?
So harrala bob's story is kind of quick. Oh guy So he's actually because transition from being the one thing guy to the next thing guy to the next guy Okay, so he started off He got famous because he was a big sports better and he famously one year and I think the year 2000 Like just absolutely raked it in in vegas because he found an arbitrage Uh that he could bet on and he just like milked it and uh, he realized that like I think it was something He had a few of these where he best basically finds he would find inefficiencies in the sports betting market And that's how he made like millions of dollars. So he found like one year of that what they would do is Um, let's say that they would have an over under a total points for a game and let's say it's 200 points for the game Um now vegas is like weirdly accurate with over-unders like they will get it like so spot on it'll come down like the last possession And like it'll flip over under so they're very good at doing that It doesn't seem like there's much efficiency there But like in basketball what happens is that the first half of basketball you just play and then you go to halftime But at the end of the game those often the situation where the losing team will start fouling the winning team To like stop the clock make them shoot free throws and then try to like they're trying to make three's while the other team Can only shoot two free those at a time So what it led to was that the second half had more points than the first half But vegas had a small bet called the they would take the over under and would say you could bet the first half over under And it was just dividing it by two So it's like dividing the total by two so the total was always really accurate But the the first half over under was underpriced. It was oh it was like too frequently too, uh too high So he was defending the under so he'd find these like little inefficiencies Certain refs are really foul prone Um, and so he would know that okay when that ref is refing this game that team is going to score more than their normal average And so he would analyze the refs so nobody was analyzing the refs and he would just bet for all season on just the refs Um, and he actually uncooked I think he figured out before the NBA uncovered that that ref timed on he was like cheating basically because like It was always weird shit happening on that guy's games.
Uh, and so I'm perfect He doesn't like totally out his whole strategy But like he's talked about it before like, you know, the Lakers in one year were undervalued in a way And so he was able to bet them so he made millions of dollars doing that And I think he then he became um, then he gets hired by an NBA mark Cuban hires him to be his like secret weapon for the maps Yeah, but he worked there for a few days, right? No, he worked there for like a year or two and then he famously you know left or flat left slash got fired this year He left but like an article came out saying Everybody in the company hates paralabob because he has mark Cuban's ear and like he has too much power for like his like random position a special advisor and stuff Like that they made him seem like this like master puppeteer and then whatever he left Uh, and now he's like big time and he's been big time into crypto recently And so he's just like the intersection of all my interests like sports betting poker gambling NBA games and like NBA personnel stuff franchise management and now crypto And so I just think this guy's like kind of a baller degenerate gambler type of dude And he kind of looks like a shithead so I like him automatically and he's not afraid to talk shit because he's not like employed by You know somebody or whatever, uh, so you know he uh, he basically like um He's kind of like a one-man band which I think is great I think those people tend to be the most interesting because they could speak their mind And he's kind of like a shithead degenerate gambler type So he's got you know the sense of humor that you find when you run in those circles Which is like, you know part like smart aleck because you're just like actually really fucking smart and clever and you're finding like The edges, uh, but also part shithead where you're just like you don't mind just make a fun of people and calling them dumb This episode turned into like the slum dog millionaire of um twitter where like we name we named 10 things and then a super in-depth story on each one Am I interesting? Yeah, yeah, that's true actually it's more about their backstories than their twitter I think it's gonna be cool. Um, Ben, what do you think are people gonna dig stuff like this?
People love it people love lists like john said we sold out, but you know what this is a good thing to tell up for because a good episode We um we had one title the other day Either is the title or is the thumbnail like they use the thumbnail that I looked stupid or a title that maybe someone can idiot And I was like Ben. I don't like that. It goes. Oh, you thought that selling out to the algorithm was gonna feel good Yeah, I had them change the title also for the hasamatage episode it came out It was like reveals all his comedy secrets and I was like we didn't even talk about that like we didn't even talk about his comedy secrets and You know, I feel like that's a guest i'm trying to look cool with man You kind of like making me look dumb in front of my friend i'm trying to look cool with so can we like change that Like you can make me look dumb, but don't make me look dumb in front of somebody who I care about Are you guys friends now?
Uh, yeah, we're buddies. That's great. That's that's that's pretty a big a big thing, right? Like you're your friends with like a guy who is almost a hero Almost a hero A strange description.
Well, like I don't know how much you look up to him, but I knew you looked up to him a lot Okay, there's definitely like a part of it, which I think uh, you know, it's kind of like the embarrassing part of anybody Which like you know, like I find it really embarrassing when people see a celebrity and they fucking lose their mind And they go and they like take a photo with them and they like ask them for an autograph Can you please write your name on this piece? We were like I mean it's real like bitch move if you think about it. I was very strange You know if I had my memory, why did I came back at a society? Like what you just do what like, you know, why did you?
That's how I used to think uh, that's how I used to think when I would see people with like Trump flags or any other politician flag or They're like his face. I'm like kind of weird to have a grown man's face all over your body Yeah, exactly and then like, you know, I fanboy about UFC and shit like that I can super excited so there's you know, there's still people that like I still can fanboy about So there's definitely that part of it, which is like, oh, it's kind of cool that someone someone that's kind of famous is like your friend But that wears off after like I don't know 10 seconds, um or at least for me I'm like, this is like a lame feeling. Um, the thing I like is that he actually is super helpful Like uh, he asked really quick like first of all, we was like, okay, let's take let's take uh his career and my career completely out of it If you have a conversation with this person, do you like him? Do you get along?
Like do they say interesting things or is it just boring same old commentary that everybody has like no dude super interesting has really good questions has cool opinions Then the second part of it is um, are you gonna like like I told you this framework, which is good friends consumed together great friends create together And so I told him I said dude a dream of mine is to like do like a 10 minute comedy set someday Like I just think that would be such a thrill such a challenge You know like that's one of the few things that I can make you know, make me, you know nervous They're scared. It's gonna help is the idea of doing that And so he like I didn't ask him for help. I would never like I wouldn't really ask for help Your time's a lot more valuable than helping me with my like hobby dream, you know Um, like yeah, I'm that like kind of outer-shaped guy who wants to wear the jersey and dribble up and down the court in Madison Square Garden Like yeah, I want that but like you don't need to help me But he has he texts me like really interesting kind of like the stuff I'm you know, you know, I'm a nerd about which is like frameworks kind of like techniques tactics of like, okay What's behind the laugh the laugh doesn't just happen, you know, like there's like there's like there's a way to consistently recreate the laugh How do you do that? And so he's been sharing some ideas with me and so you have to ask me like can I share this tweet?
I did ask him. I was like dude. You should charge for this like this is unbelievable He's like he's like a don't share my shit. I'll go to the grave with it and then be so I haven't told nobody not even Not even my right hand man.
I don't don't even let him take a peek The second part was he's like, you know, there's like this feeling in like a comedy and like acting which is like You could teach it But like if you teach it that's sort of like this like signal of like I couldn't do it So I became that acting teacher in, you know, New York or whatever and I think there's that same thing in tech Which is like are you like teaching it because you like you couldn't make it as the operator I think there is that stigma in tech as well but much less so because in tech people figured out If I start blogging about my shit and tweeting about my shit, my reputation goes up. I get better deal flow I get to invest in better more badass companies. It's like actually strategic right and it's not like that versus like a fallback plan Well, I'm very eager Sean to hear about your friendship with this famous comedian Fuck you for doing that Congratulations, I'm making a new friend. That's the sound to tell you a text on why that was funny Yeah for some of us it's natural