Thomas Baker | 05-31-26

Roger Stone interviews former FBI special agent Thomas J. Baker to examine the systemic decline of the FBI, moving from its traditional roots in law enforcement toward a flawed intelligence-driven mission. Stone frames the discussion around his own experience with an over-the-top tactical raid on his home, using it as a case study for what the duo describes as the politicization and abuse of power within the bureau. Baker traces this cultural shift back to the September 11th aftermath, arguing that Director Robert Mueller’s effort to mimic the CIA’s "operating" style led to a bloated bureaucracy and a disregard for constitutional protections. The conversation ultimately identifies James Comey as the figure who caused irreparable damage to the agency’s reputation by launching investigations against political campaigns without sufficient predicate information or probable cause.