Three CIOs, one MIT AI course - Governance, ROI, and the Right Use Case| The 229 Podcast with Lisa Johnson & Tamara Havenhill-Jacobs

Jul 2, 2026:Sarah Richardson, Lisa Johnson, and Tamara Havenhill-Jacobs spent thirteen weeks completing an MIT AI strategy course on planes, evenings, and what Tamarah calls her "AI Sundays." What they brought back wasn't hype. It was clear. In this conversation with Sarah Richardson, recorded live from a 229 CIO Summit in Napa, the two leaders get honest about what actually changed: how one built the confidence to defend AI's role to her board through a theological lens, why "can AI fix that" is the wrong first question, and the real difficulty of proving ROI on work that doesn't show up as hard dollars. A candid look at what intentional AI adoption actually requires.Key Points:00:29 Podcast Welcome From Napa01:09 MIT AI Course Takeaways08:24 Intentional AI And Governance15:47 Culture Shift And Safe Sandboxes20:29 Future Of AI In HealthcareLinkedIn: 229ProjectDonate: Alex’s Lemonade Stand: Foundation for Childhood Cancer