Tim Estes: AI and the Internet Kids Deserve

Content warning: this episode discusses online harms to children, including child sexual abuse, trafficking, and the death of a child linked to a viral online challenge. Listener discretion is advised. To report suspected online exploitation of a child in the US, contact the Department of Homeland Security Know2Protect Tipline at 1-833-591-5669 or the CyberTipline at report.cybertip.org.Most of the conversation about kids and technology is a conversation about keeping them off it. Tim Estes wants to talk about the other path: technology built so well that a child can actually use it safely. He has spent 25 years in artificial intelligence, from a startup he launched at 20 years old to work with the defense and intelligence community, Wall Street compliance, and the nonprofit Thorn, where the AI he helped build has been used to identify roughly 12,000 trafficked children in the US.Then a 10-year-old named Nyla Anderson died after a viral challenge served to her by an algorithm, and Tim decided to build something different. In this conversation he and Ryan get into Angel Q, the AI tool for kids he founded: how it works, why he calls it a perplexity for kids, and the guardrails that make it safe, from age-appropriate answers generated on the fly to a three gate system that decides whether to answer, soften, or defer a child’s question, and notify the parent.The heart of the episode is Tim’s message to parents: you do not have to be at war with technology, but you do have to understand the business model behind everything your child touches. He explains why kids should use technology in the open and never in private, why the people who owned the playground turned it into a casino, and why the most useful question a parent can ask is not about the code, but about how a product makes its money.In this episode:Why the answer to kids and technology is not only abstinence25 years in AI, from defense and Wall Street to hunting online child trafficking with ThornThe story of Nyla Anderson, and the moment Tim decided to build Angel QWhat Angel Q is, and the guardrails behind a perplexity for kidsThe three gates: answer, soften, or defer, and notify the parentWhy every app your child uses has a business model, and how to read itKeeping technology in the open, never in privateA hopeful case that innovation and protecting kids are not in conflictLearn more about Angel Q at angelq.ai. Tim also chairs Alliance for a Better Future, a pro family group focused on human dignity and technology.Send us Fan MailAbout Ryan VetRyan Vet is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist, and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold.Join 20,000+ Leaders for Weekly InsightsIf you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter:👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide