Tim Smit on forever chemicals and rethinking the meaning of 'farms'

Our CEO, Patrick Holden, recently sat down for a conversation with Sir Tim Smit, former archaeologist, music producer and founder of the Eden Project and Lost Gardens of Heligan in Cornwall. In this episode, Patrick and Tim talk about the emerging dangers of forever chemicals for the environment and human health, reconceptualising what we mean when we talk about farms and their importance for mental health and wellbeing, and why the integration of food and farming into the national curriculum "shouldn't be fringe, it should be right at the core". To listen to more SFT podcasts, featuring some of the biggest names in regenerative food and farming, head to our main podcast page. And to keep up to date with our news, you can subscribe to our monthly newsletter or follow us on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn and Bluesky. This conversation was recorded in December 2025.