You're listening to the Wisps wasatch in wasatch investigative studies Wasatch investigative studies a paranormal science show which apparently is yet another acronym for a super natural hour of what? Why you doing this to me man? No, you haven't tuned into the wrong station are we recording yes, there was one more part of business I want to discuss with you before we start recording too late. I do it on air I don't even discuss it.
I don't care is a personal private. Yeah sensitive It's just about those work your tone so you found on your thing is about that rash Do you ever get that checked this one no the one lower that one no lower that one lower still I have eczema below the belt He says it's like some I think it's chafing and if it's Oh Fight you oh what to do this show just another the normal day recording. I'm Tim there we go. Okay, so That's the headphone sounded weird.
Well, that's because I play with shit when you guys are here Welcome to the world's most professional podcast I'm your host castle on my right. We have ten the stone whisper. I already introduced myself who would love whisper to your stones Could you whisper to my stones please Tim? That's what I walked in on was to whisper into your stones when I got here I think it would have been the other way around because it was just me in the studio on the search guy here I was creating an illusion for our listeners and I wrote it for you because you're dumb.
Thank you I claimed your wand though. He did wand is mine. I'm just on my gym. Celia I'm not talking about a cell and I want either this is an actual like wand from Harry Potter.
You know it touched it Too far I should say the largest here with us and Jan Hello, and Simon Don. Hi. Now I Taco. Yeah, which The R because I see lurch over here handling Tim's wand.
No well, Tim is right now What's funny? I went to the bathroom and worked with my wand if right and the lurch said you know I'm gonna pee on his wand and I just thought this is just weird. It got really weird and explicit really quickly really quick zero to 60 Now you know the 69 Sentence of our puck yes, this is a little bit of general conference if you're in a 12 ear muffs kids Yes, this is gonna be an explicit about so yeah, Tim has a wand from the Harry Potter store What else about your wand Tim? You know what is the leak for anyone their girl yes anyone that listens to radio run and heard them kind of bitch about the Harry Potter Area at South Amal it's actually really fun.
We're not used word area. That sounds kind of dirty and Potter make shift I go now. It's very cool. It's small.
It's expensive. It is small It is not as fun. We got there and my daughter was like where's the roller coaster? I think it's not a roller coaster.
It's just a shopping area, but it's not your first videos. It's a South Amal for what it is It's a very very cool. They had some cool They had an actual like all of Anders like make shift store in there And there was like ten different replica wands you combine. I ended up buying the serious black wand I saw they had little games that you could play to a little game to get pictures I gotta hear my new one I got pictures actually all hang up on the wall there behind which is it I made the bad choice of going to Southtown all yesterday at about 11 a.m And so that's why I kind of have a name experience from it But yeah, I had to go to sport a get a gift card for my wife and I went down to the pretzel maker and that one stairwell Was just filled with galkers.
I'm just like get the other way. Yeah, I took it took the Monday after Thanksgiving off Yeah, so people so cyber Monday. I was I was off people actually like, you know at work still at the time Brandy and I went down to them all so it was it was fairly not busy for us Yeah, we went on Friday and we got there at 9 30 and about 10 we got in line and there were only about 12 people in front of us And we didn't have to wait like we should walk right in yeah, we should point out that brandy a.k.a.p. Just is not here tonight She stuck at work.
Yes with the Christmas season which is generally her busy season at work So we probably won't see peaches until Probably next year yeah probably next year by next year we mean January next month speaking of which that's probably an item of housekeeping that we should probably take care of right now Yeah, we can do that with the holidays coming up. Believe it or not much to your shock and amazement. We have lives outside of this the four of you might Actually fine with recording on New Year's Eve Christmas Eve Christmas day. I don't give a shit.
I'll be here recording Welcome to the maker show Let's talk about my wand I'm sitting in the room alone hold my wand. I do like Santa Claus ish Oh, she can't do things And that's how Tim and upon the sex register Chuck E. Cheese I'll be ginger claus Chuck E. Cheese is gross.
We actually will be sitting outside southern exposure Hey the strippers might do that you never know He makes a hell Work in the weekends. Oh my god. Is this a parent or what? Well welcome to radio Ronin where we're actually funny So real quick back on topic we will be recording on the 17th on our next show just to give you guys a heads up is going to be Recorded live well, yes, I'm here to be a few days old We will be recording live we will be recording at the family tree restaurant And this is one of those shows that I think maybe we might be able to catch an EVP live Yes, we may get live EVP on the show that would be awesome So we will be recording with Corey from family tree and it's gonna be fun We're gonna eat big gigantic scones and not only with Corey, but at the family tree, correct.
Yeah, we looked out that little bit Recording To Because he was like saying he'll free get a live EVP Oh recording see the end doesn't try to hear that she doesn't try filtering anymore. She just Represses the memory I just go to my happy place She's really shot some microphone I'm not the one that brought up my wand That was not me that brought that up right I start touching your wand I Notice like all the episodes were all together and it's not just like me and you're talking to ourselves in the dark They're explicit yeah I do want to say for the record I do listen to life on the rocks and they always claim about how wrong to they are they open They're only one of their episodes that they're actually not as bad as they are as they are when they come to our show Apparently I bring out the worst and actually worse on our show than they are on their own show I'm not worried about you. You're bad influence Hang on that good boy. He's a bad influence.
It all comes together now. Okay. Anyway, I think it's ghost hunting is evil So hey, that's true. So anyway, we will be recording on 17th and then we'll be going on a hiatus until January 7th January 7th will be recording against over the second week of January.
We will be back so that'll just time to Just let's over the open fire. So we're back to where we're coming out every other week instead of every week like we have been But after we record on 17th, there's gonna be like a three-week period where we won't have an episode out So go ahead listen to all those back episodes a lot of great stuff there Yeah, and you know what one episode of the man listen to this lender man. Okay now, you know, oh, so I gotta say Castle got divorced last year and he's been dating and Yes, and my girlfriend and we'll just call her L That'll be her new name for the show so you don't confuse her Laura from life on the rocks Yeah, they got you but that was also another episode they were all confused because we keep saying her name and Larg from life on the rocks if you remember we did give her a nickname or tonight did yes, okay special case Okay, we did I called it at the other time when I started but we're gonna call the Lord that and they were gonna call her Oh, there was it was karma and special king. So L Actually since Letterman actually said that she thought it was a really good episode and she did tell me some of our other episodes So she was nice.
I was gonna say anything apparently although we thought splinterman suck people actually like Slenderman, so Amazing episode I still think it was an amazing episode that was a creepy episode and maybe it's the clumping I don't know but regardless we will be back the second week in January and so that'll give us time to kind of relax and Unfortunately, you can have a little rebreak I know we kind of throw through episode that you every week and people love that but I remember I was gonna say though I was actually going somewhere that and I lost my train of thought we have had a lot of requests to kind of revisit our mirrors episode Yes, that was one of our earlier episodes and it was when our old sound board was kind of having a stroke and Your quality's not that great. I get a face house Our sound board was like me, but we've had a few people say you know Like my we really like guys to put down mirrors again and that episode sucks because it's not quality Because we've had a couple investigations where mirrors have been Quite a focal point issue. I've actually had some of our listeners I was at the house the other day and they were asking me they're one of the people that actually requested we do another episode on mirrors and We'll give Terry credit for that just so you know because she was complaining that I gave it to her husband They they had a question several questions about mirrors, which I think will kind of tease a little bit They wanted to know about trifold mirrors. They're awesome because you know Exactly, but the trifold mirrors are usually always facing each other.
There's no way around it That's true because they have a Trifoam here later So what is the significance of having mirrors facing each other? Why is that a no no because I can think of situations where it's good to amplify is the power amplify? Oh, okay the Amplification so if you got up so intentions, it's all on intentions And we'll talk about it in what we have good intentions and you don't realize that you're gonna be good about doing something bad I was talking once and good vibrations is making me uncomfortable. So explain how that works then Notification let's save it for the mirrors.
I don't want to give too much way This is just gonna tease people a little bit with our What would be our first episode? I would say that might be our first episode of the New Year's. We'll talk mirrors Yeah, we'll do that so a shiny new year and shiny new mirror So if you got questions on mirrors before January 7th, feel free to email into Castle at wist.org And last week sometime I shared on our Facebook page a mirror making video, which I thought was interesting That was cool if you want to see how mirrors are made Look at that how chemistry and science comes together What a way to end that I don't physically have one yet, but we're gonna start making what I'm gonna call the spooky list Because run's got their set list that they go down and since we're a panel show We're gonna have our spooky list with our agenda on it that we won't ever follow because we've never done that before you know We actually used to do a set list when we first started the show and I never followed it and DM got mad at me Well, yeah, because I'm an IT list go by the list so well Yes, I mean yes, I pee and so I just play by the same pants so much more stage though. I like this better I like kind of the free range.
Yeah, well, we just have like topics that we want to discuss and just hit on those things But we'll call it the spooky list and we'll let DM our spooky list together Wait, wait, you have a topic this for the show. Let's take a minute to talk about the early show And just kind of where we've gone where we started where we've come I think we should just have a jar of topics and maybe once months just pull out a random topic and that would make you happy That would make me happy because it's kind of wing it like we always do yeah, okay, we're talking about socks The socks demons and where they take your No, it's where the sock demons take your socks. Yeah from the dryer Sacrifice the God of socks Yep, I totally agree with the listeners like this is much more entertaining than just listening to not that I have anything wrong with I guess that we've had on but it's yeah, it's a lot more fun with us Just listening to someone talk about it's interesting because we've had a lot of a lot of feedback Well, we've all had a lot of feedback and we've people like this where we just sit and talk and joke and talk about our experiences But people also have like some of the information that's come from sort of yes I know that I had some feedback other day on our episode from the guy who talked about quantum science and ghosts And they thought that episode was like super fascinating I know a couple people that actually bought the book because of that episode I do too and so I think there's kind of a mix and So he sold four books from us. Yes, and so you know Tim and I talk all the time kind of off, you know in the middle of the week And one idea that we had we made trying to implement it here coming up in the next season What's gonna be 2018 is having guests by doing half of the show with a guest and half of us like this together as we are right now Talking about the content with the guest And so for after episode we'll talk to maybe the guy about science ago So then the other half the episode will be all five of us or six of us Just kind of hash and subject out and seeing what we think about it So it'll be a little bit of a best of both worlds kind of thing We'll try that scene if you guys sent us a email that says that we're in a Mel talks expiders to you doing that and we might stop and all the reviews on items are positive by anything We have five stars on iTunes sweet from two reviews No There's seven reviews No, one of them is our listener from Oregon that I know that she would really love to investigate with us She's I've emailed back.
Oh, yeah, she's asking some of those messages She's she's asked me about stones that she should pick up and use for like protection and I'll tell you right now I know I'm gonna do an episode in the future about stones and you talk about stones I'm gonna talk about my son's cool. I'm just tell you right now the two stones that I recommend for everybody is salamite and amethyst I'm gonna add a third one to your stones list there the obsidian obsidian is kind of a protective stone of storage and energy all three of those By what my recommendation base have so I obsidian and amethyst those are probably the three big ones. Yes, those are my go-tos So that's not our topic today either You know before we go on to a talk about today, let's tell you everything that we've got laid out for next year Well, let's do this really quick first off I know we had an investigation last night you guys went through I want to talk about yes Why we're still on topic of stones him tell us about your stone experience today my son experience today with your stone or my chopping at the Dans and Crane by you saying one stone is that cancer drive? Castle let me feel a stone to the ants.
We'll call them Lance. No, let's talk about both Okay, so let's not talk about where I got that stone, but let's talk about the stone itself I didn't didn't plan on bringing that up. Okay, okay, and then he stole it from a homeless guy that was sleeping That's not what he paid for he bought it from a store. I don't know why that's big deal to you, but He's like he's like people just give me rocks.
I actually bought one It's I felt weird and dirty because I bought a rock So actually I have a friend of mine that recently got into crystals and using like energy like stuff like that So I said well, hey, you know funny enough I can actually like sort of speak to rocks So I'll go with you and kind of have you pick some out and it was weird because like half way through it I kind of got the feeling that she's put up like some kind of weird ass spiritual block that I've never seen before so all these stones I'm like feeling energy off of that. I'm picking up that you know, it's for her. She's not she didn't feel anything like it's she was just completely shut off Everything but there's also like I've never been in this building when it's been as busy as it was There were there were so many people there that it was also kind of confusing because there's stuff that I thought was for her That I ended up being for other people that were around me looking at stones at the same time Because there was one stone I handed her a piece of jet that I was picking up energy off of Had her hold it and I thought you know, maybe this is something that she needs she wasn't getting anything off of it I'm like, okay, and I put the stone back and as we were checking out I happened to I thought she had picked it back up and bought it But it was actually some road diet that looked similar to the one that she had and so I actually turned over and looked into the dish Where I had that jet that I had handed her to earlier and someone else had actually picked it up and purchased it So it was it was weird because like not only was I picking up stuff that you know She needed that I needed to people I knew that needed but I was also picking up on stuff that people around me that I don't even know like I pick up on stones that people that were just they're shopping also needed and it was just like confusing for me because I had No idea like like oh someone needs to stone. I have no clue who it needs it though.
So We had to look on your face again kill me. No, I'm just I'm trying to figure out how loud that air condition is It didn't affect anything last time. I mentioned the last time it went on and you can't even hear it according Okay, yeah, I can hear it now with your stone your this is the first time I've actually come across a piece of Rob City It's actually a piece of Rob City that I found And so I mean it's it's wrong the handle-homeless man while he was sleeping right But yeah, it's Rob City and and I was curious to see what Tim it's it's um he had it I mean I it's got a really you know for being up sitting that normally absorbs negative energy I you've obviously cleansed it because I had a lot of positive energy coming off of it Which is weird for obsidian for me, but as I said, I'm like yeah You need to bring this to the investigation on Saturday because we actually have a portal closing that we're doing on Saturday Right, it's actually gonna be a kind of ugly type three investigation that we're gonna be doing But yeah, it's it's kind of any piece of city and I actually I found it And the handle-homeless man while he was sleeping correct. I actually I'm fascinated by geology So I go to a lot of areas that have a lot of volcanic flows not not so I actually found this piece of city There's a lot of places in Utah that you can go rock-hounding and find all sorts of like topaz turquoise rose quartz There's there's so many like natural stones that you can find if you know where to look for in the rock-hounding part of it I totally get into the geology part of it the mineral That's like that we should set up a rock-hounding trip see I can totally dig that I can still really schedule because I think that would actually be pertinent even though it's a paranormal show with the crystal stuff We do and I've got a crystal show and maybe talk about rock-hounding where you can find stuff in Utah I've actually got a book that has a lot of really good hotspot rock-hounding locations I do I could hit up a J rocks and see if there'd be one to come on the show I think red barrel is found in Utah and red barrel is actually barrel is in B.E.R.
Y.L As per caret worth more than diamonds and can be found here in Utah actually out to the west of us if I recall West Desert yeah, yeah Geodes but this piece of city and I just really cool and it's a check of obsidian But it's got a lot of volcanic ash to kind of kicked around it from when it was originally spewed forth out of a Speedforth out of the way. It's a huge beautiful. Yes Anyway, all right. Well, let's move on.
Let's talk about the investigation last night Yeah, and you want to talk about it? Yeah So it was actually the brother of a gal that I have known for quite some time and he said that they have a daughter that was 18 months old yeah, and they just seem to have a lot of activity around this daughter a lot of you know every time they take pictures there's orbs and You know she was afraid of a room and she would you know crying in the night not go sleep and then so they were concerned about what was There so it was me silent dawn and lurch no I was there Tim yeah, I was there and I was not I know I know people have actually confused our voices on the show What was my time on people thought that I'm looking at you really yep? How could that happen? I don't know geez we don't have anything that is just amazing.
I know that beard I don't have a beard I know but the listeners can't see that yeah, I'm looking right at you and I say they're sorry about that I can't tell you And so we went into the home and we were you know He had just told me a little bit via texting what was going on and so we asked him to the dad to fill us in It's a younger couple probably in their mid 20s mid to late 20s and as we're sitting there I'm feeling a pull kind of behind me and I'm looking at Tim who's looking at kind of in the same direction I'm looking and then I kind of fell the pole in the kitchen and then I saw Tim also looking in the kitchen I'm thinking yeah, we're feeling the exact same thing Tim I'll let you take over But you know straight jump take it away tini you go okay. I was there all this way from here Oh, yeah, I was there to her just noise. I got this I just know I just like take over no She's you complain you don't get a talk very often so I'm just like letting you roll with it I'm tired okay, I did I did so I did ask the homeowners because I was feeling like there's something to me I felt like it was upstairs and behind us Yeah, and so I asked the homeowner I'm like is you just have the one floor yeah Because I was prepared to go there you saw me you saw me looking around like what I was doing was looking for the stairs Mm-hmm, and I was thinking the one we're done that we'll go upstairs and we'll go see yeah That's kind of where I was at cuz I'm like did you have an upstairs and I'm like no just the one floor I'm like okay Well, it's outside then it's on your roof because that's kind of where the direction is getting pulled Yeah, and I'm like whose room is straight back on this side of the house and it was their daughter's room and I just I felt the presence it was like it was outside it was on the roof above the daughter's room right, and here's the interesting thing we'll come back to the kitchen in a second so and we went back into the daughter's room and Tim is using a pendulum to get yes no answers and he asked if the spirit and he I was I'd been in the kitchen So I missed the first few questions you did but when I came in I think it was a second or third question I heard you ask was are you hiding from the end and the answer was yes So I say I'm bad ass spirits are hiding from me It was the first I just said are you hiding from the team and I'm just asking questions that like I was feeling prompted to ask To be honest with you like I don't know like why I was asking some of the questions I was just felt like that's what I should ask So I originally asked if it was hiding from us and I got the answer response and then just bit me I'm like are you hiding from DM and we got the yes like instantly right and then he said Tim said it felt like had something to do with one of my spirit guides and then I got thinking the spirit that lives in my home by the name of Emmet is he is pretty bad ass and spirits don't like him at all Was he a vampire from a novel from it? No, but we like Emmet was he an author that had a jig band Christmas?
No, okay We had our ghost meter pro there and I said is it I said am I are you here with me? And yes he was he came with me Oh interesting so an Emmet kind of as a protector he's very much No, he was not so we originally only picked up on the two spirits in the home one of the kitchen and then the one that was outside upstairs But when we started investing in we actually found that there was a third spirit There was a new American that was actually watching over the lamp and he was the one that was answering all the questions He was kind of the spokesman in the in the back of the house. So in the kitchen it actually was the little girl's Great grandmother who was there and she was very very chatty. She was very talkative And she actually at one point in the investigation The granddaughter of the spirit asked if she should bring her mother over so she did and mom came over It was interesting because as soon as soon as the mother walked in the in the home You could feel this great grandmother spirit just gets so happy and usually When I'm feeling spirits, I usually feel Frustration I feel anger.
I feel kind of all those negative emotions Tim feels mostly the happy emotions. I get them all. I said mostly Yeah, and I can't feel the happy emotions But I feel more than negative ones But I was down the hall when when this lady walked in the house and I was like wow everybody just felt really happy And Tim's like can you feel happy she is like yeah? I usually don't feel happy so that was kind of cool that need experience for you because I walked in and you just kind of like I felt that down the other of the house.
Yeah That was after we actually had so we had we came to a conclusion that we needed to cleanse the house But we weren't exactly sure like how to go about doing it because we didn't have like all of our cleansing equipment with us We didn't have one of our mediums like the pro spirits and over one-on So what we ended up doing was contacting Newman and and it was important to the story where Dan mentioned that the spirit was Hiding from her because when I called Newman I said hey Are you available for a minute that you can help us on this investigation? I'm like is there a way you can kind of tap into our energy and figure out what's going on here? He's like yeah, not a problem. He's like okay First you got a female spirit which we found out check and then he's like when you got some kind of like Demonic like negative entity that's hiding from you guys I'm like check and he basically like listed out all the basically confirm all the information that we'd already gathered ourselves I love when that happens except where he said there was also seven portals and well and the interesting thing I'm gonna interrupt is one thing we kind of left out is when we were back in the room With the pendulum we determined that the spirit had been sent there by someone to pester the family that was there before Oh, yeah, I wasn't actually there It was it was sent to bother somebody else but since that those people weren't there anymore and that spirit was like well This is where I was sent to do that's why they were there 20 And so we figured that whoever was there before may have been involved in things of a repute and that's probably how the portals come there So new we're just guessing new one was actually able to close all the portals send everything back through the portals and close Mall it was interesting because you could tell almost the second he did that because all of a sudden it was just like oh It's so much lighter in here.
Yeah, it was fun It was a kind of interesting like you said because I was actually on the phone with Newman You can hear what he was saying But like as he was saying stuff you're like that's when you were like pointing out the fact that there was a shift in the energy And it felt a lot better in the house before I even hung up the phone with Newman and told him that he had cleansed everything So like you were actually feeling it as it was going on You know and it's interesting guys mentioned that about Newman because Well as everybody in this room knows and probably our long time listeners we work with a handful of mediums Brandy be caden Newman and there's been a few others that we work with Tim is kind of there a little bit too But people always ask me how do you know they're not fake How do you know they're a full of it and one thing with mediums that I've noticed is if someone tells me they're medium I kind of like to test them. I'm a medium. I'm a medium too Gary Just say if you ever want to buy me a shirt. Yeah, I'm a large.
I'm a triple extra large Actually Tim and I decided that with our with our empathic feels even though they're kind of on the opposite ends of the spectrum sometimes that we are We are beating extra smalls. You mean It was actually fun like being able to like work I've noticed like some of us on the team because we're around each other so much like when we're together working on a case or investigation We seem to kind of like amplify each other's abilities There's kind of a cool synergy that kind of comes along especially and I don't know I can't speak for other teams gonna not on other teams But with our team there's kind of a unique synergy that I can count on certain people for certain things and when we're all together It really kind of Everything clicks and things really smooth but kind of back to my original point by the way I'm a large if you guys want to get me a thing for Christmas Christmas just a few weeks away But I've noticed that when we're working with mediums I like to test them and you know I wish Brandy is her to confirm it because I think she has tired of me testing her because I never stopped doing it But we have you piece to come back up like what she's been saying exactly and it's it's stuff like that or like when you guys are talking In the home you guys on your own without You know brandy or someone saying there's a dude stand right there in the corner They're in a lady right here You guys kind of figured out with the equipment and just kind of your own personal feels and then you have somebody like Newman who's not even there Who sends a text and confirms everything you guys already figured out? That's the kind of stuff where you go. Okay, they're legit.
They're something to this the one thing that I didn't mention I didn't go too far into with the family But I mean Dan sitting right there when I just kind of looked at the homeowner I'm like who in your family has dementia like it just popped in my head and they kind of got this weird look on their face I mean the mom and the daughter look at each other like I think you said well first of his cancer brain issue Cancer yeah, and some kind of brain issue and they just kind of gave me this weird look and Someone's got dementia and it's like bing bing bing yeah But they were just looking at me like they kind of gave me that look like how the how do you know? Because I don't know this family never met them I don't know from Adam just met him last night and like yes someone has dementia and they're just gonna give me this look Like how do you know that well the interesting thing was when they look at each other like how the heck was you know? I mean you could just tell by the look they gave each other I thought that's gonna be an affirmative answer Well, and it's easy because well not that's great No sense I'm neither that came from I can say it's interesting having worked with him because I when I first met him too much Just a dude back. He wasn't even a dude at the beer.
He was just a dude I go to yeah, but you're still just a dude and I've kind of had the opportunity watch Tim's abilities kind of grow and I hope I don't offend you by saying this. I wouldn't necessarily classify Tim as a medium per se no I will not refer myself as a medium Tim is like it. Yeah, sorry just try to bust the idea of you being a medium Sorry, I choked on those whole hours if I hit the gym I might get down to a large No just a little spittle went down the wrong pipe That's all but I would probably class by 10 is like an empath on steroids, you know Tim's got is really gifted with stones You can touch my stones. He's great at one handling which we determined Showing up in this house is my replica wand from a model others in the issue It's just like shut the door in my face.
It does not show professionalism You're not welcome here So but but Tim can pick up on stuff and I know Tim can also can you though? That's the thing yeah, but you do it much better than I do like I can feel spirits and I can you pick out object attachments like no other and there's that that like skull for example when we're in Sanquin that yeah, it was on the wall caden and I both walked past that several times. I was gonna play a flesh and orange I think yeah, and you walk down you like that I mean we'd walk past it several times and neither one was picked up on it. You're just like that's coming to touch Yeah, it was it might as well be a person or is because it was put up a vibe I can't and it's weird cuz I can't describe it.
I'm sure you're the same way with you and stones everything else It's just there's a certain you just know you just know and you just and it's funny because I think everybody has that ability to So I'm extent well, you know and some things it's just how much and the dynamics is interesting because I was telling Tim Last night I said I love it when our mediums are with us on investigations I mean I love everybody on our team, but I have noticed that if a medium is there I don't know if it's a subconscious thing or if I just get lazy now You know, but I but I tune out it's like I can do the same thing when I try but if I go on an investigation without a medium I am just I can pick things you know, there's a female there. There's something out on the roof That's what I love the Lurch night of the silent because there's two of us actually you know investigated Mm-hmm. I say it's interesting because it's a weird dynamic because sometimes I love having medium there because especially on a residential I can get right to the root of the problem and kind of deal with it fast, but like you said like a silom sometimes But not have media. Oh, I actually have to I love the mediums.
I love all of you But I hate it when you're on a public event because I want to go and just figure shit out of my own And so it's an interesting dynamic. Yeah, and the problem is though like last night, you know, we determined what needed to happen I don't know what to do and that's hard on residential. Okay, I got stuff figured out I was like brandy's on an event and cadence got the gallbladder issues and he's feeling like crap and not in tune and Newman Because we do have some methods to get rid of spirits entirely But like when they did process stuff you can we were actually getting it from the grandmother that was actually basically saying anything that we could have done last night Which is why we had to have like brandy or new manor and if you have some portals Yeah, definitely we didn't know about the portals Right, so it is that we were getting it was very strong from that the grandmother spirit that what we normally do to cleanse Like cuz I had sage deannance and salt and it's like the stuff that we had there that we could cleanse the house with it Would've all been ineffective which happens from time to time I mean it's interesting because we've all got into homes and I don't know that we've ever done two homes the same as far as how we Cleanse because a lot of it's very intuitive. I Went on an investigation and I can't remember who all was there but I was running a little bit late and so I ended up showing up late and they're having some issues and everything Inside of me was kind of saying a real mental and so I did everything I went to mitigate an air elemental and I did nothing else And that seemed and Kate was there and he was kind of like yeah I mean everything I was doing he was kind of like yeah that feels right and it just it worked I can't tell you why I knew how to do that and I'm not saying I'm gifted or meeting by any stretch imagination But it just felt right and so I did all the things I do to build an air elemental iron pyrite Black pepper and vinegar.
I know anybody listening to this first time thinking what the crapsie talking about this man is insane But the stuff all worked and we never went back to the house again You know I interviewed all the value numbers and kind of got to the root of what caused it What caused the betrayal of trust what to bring in an elemental? But once we got that out we got all things to mitigate an elemental boom problem was solved and it was just intuition on how Cleans that particular home at work. Mm-hmm So now that we've talked about everything but our topic for tonight Yeah, what was the topic again? We're gonna Our parents game so if you guys want to get it down my NLM it's the wisps their own LMS now.
They're not parents games We were gonna talk about it last week but our last episode but we ran out of time So I thought it would be a good idea because there is a movie coming out here I believe in January about the Winchester mansion. Yes, so I wanted to kind of do a spring for the recording I wanted a I'm on the wrong website. I wanted Wikipedia There we go. Okay.
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Why your brother and sister talking about red tube? I've never had a conversation with anybody siblings about porn sites What the hell is wrong with you two? No, clearly I didn't I don't know we talk about points that's dinner. It's okay The Winchester house totally don't make it awkward because your sister standing right there The Winchester house if I remember Just trying to bring it back San Jose, California Sarah Winchester wasn't she the one that started to design it she was an heir to the Winchester fortune you guys come on And she believed that as long as she was building extensions onto the house building in the house that the spirits of all the Murdered people that have been shot by Winchester guns would be at bay and she'll be able to find peace It was after her husband died and her child died only child died.
She actually gained the entire fortune I believe she was across country to Boston She went to a medium and the medium told her that she needed to do this So that's actually one of my my places that I've never been to that I still really want to day and you have like stairways leading to dead ends you have hallways that leads to nothing you got doors that Doors up to walls exactly you have windows that open up to brick walls as well from what I understand like so the house She started building in 1884 and the construction continued 24 hours a day 24 hours a day So one day a week until she passed away in 1922 wrecked and then the construction stopped immediately and they said People dropped hammers I just walked up there's like nails that are halfway pounded in and silent guns actually been there I do know that from when I read the house used to be a lot bigger than it is now I believe it was I think it was like used to be like four stories I think it's down to two stories now or because of the earthquake there was an earthquake the 1906 San Francisco earthquake affected the home and there were portions of it that were taken down that point But the building continued after that they just didn't build back up. They built out So it was there also as I remember right it was the late 80s when I was there and went through the tour went through pretty extensive tour First on is old I am old. I thought you're gonna say for the listeners. I was the chair squeaking that a fart That's what I heard It was just castles bald Yeah, it was it was the late 80s But there was a like the front entrance You know there's stories that people couldn't come in through the front entrance the main entrance of the house and part of that was explained to me was because The 1906 earthquake actually shifted it now this room is gorgeous.
I mean Tiffany beautiful Victorian house Tiffany windows and lamps And I think it was they didn't spare expense on anything it was She had millions of dollars at her disposal. She has the air to the entire Winchester fortune So she did not skimp on any exactly her income was thirty five thousand dollars a month Which back in like the early 1920s is probably the equivalent of like more half a million a month I think going back to the door it was president was at Grover Cleveland I believe you know one of the presidents went to visit this house and not on the front door and I said no You gotta go through the servant's entrance and he got pissed off the left Well, what else was interesting is she believed that the spirits would actually get her Yes, it's like the home and so she never slept in the same room twice Yeah twice in a row she's in the same rooms, but right but every night was in a front room And she and because her her servants couldn't find her she actually developed a System call system so that they could find her. I saw something about like some of the bathrooms It weren't like actual functioning bathrooms. They just they put like windows in the bathroom and Do you send the porcelain?
There's no water to my scale. I shop it loads and evolve of things I mean I find the story fascinating the idea like I'm doing really in that conversation She had a room and I can't remember what she called it I was gonna say the blue room, but she would go into this room every night At midnight and they would ring a bell to summon the spirits and she would go in this room and these spirits would tell her what to do As far as the the building and you know, so we don't know who she was in communication We know if it was actually spirit she was in communication with her She's crazy We don't know but she would go in there every night at midnight and stay there for several hours There's like 13 exits from the room if I remember right if I recall I think the whole house has a lot of beam of 13 There's 13's everywhere 13 stairs 13 doors 13 the window panes with the spider web things are in 13 But the interesting thing is there were so many innovations in this I mean, she's crazy, but she was also very brilliant and she would grow these crops and dry the crops and she had she designed these whole designs What was it you watch it? I can't remember anyway, they would they would dry the fruit and they would sell it which I thought was funny They'd sell this fruit the dried fruit to supplement her income on supplements or $35,000 a month income I was more than that so well she was making a thousand dollars a day 35,000 so to equate that to like money today. She was making roughly $23,000 a day I could survive off of that so then 23,000 times 30 One of the things that I thought was really need it was 75 750,000 more than more than half a million a month Yeah, approximately three quarters a million.
Yeah stuff taught my brain, but there's a heart so I don't know what did you find interesting? Well, I found interesting there was like a green room kind of area You know a greenhouse kind of area they did plants and things like that and they had floors laid down I believe it was tequed but almost in a mesh and underneath that they had a copper pan And so when they do the watering they could come in and just basically shower the plants and the different things and the water would all Drain down and then they'd recycle all the water they had huge cisterns and recycling deals Again, this is the you know the 1910s 1920s You know I just thought the innovation there's some some really interesting YouTube videos on the Winchester and Mr. Nelson the other I watched There's something else that I thought was interesting and she was paying We did she had 60 staff between the staff and the construction workers and she paid them double the going rate of Workers at the time, but if you questioned her at all you're out so She said you got compensated very well drink the Kool-Aid and I will build a wall to know where yes I am if the spirits tell you that's what I need to do then that's what I'll do well I'm guessing she probably had some relatively loyal construction workers because I'm sure the first you they're like wait The start goes nowhere. It's not quite too good.
You're fired. Do they have the same kind of building codes back then? I was I was saying that joking way, but I'm just saying the contractors who were figured out really quick that you just build the house The screen way Mrs Winchester wants it. You know pretty good And if she wants to stairway that goes to it then 400 foot drop off I don't know how many but I'm guessing you know one or two people got fired and then like just I wonder what I wonder logistically how possible it be to actually build something like that today I think you could I think you I mean if you went by waiting so so many codes I think you'd have a inspector command because one of the one of the exits from the blue room You open the door and it literally drops like eight feet to the stove.
Yeah, cuz that's safe, right? Lots of things like that literally you open up doors that look like you know doors You're gonna do it and there's a wall brick wall right behind it I mean the house starts on fire needs to die inside because they're already open either drop off or brick wall trapped I do like I know you guys mentioned the whole thing with the 13 I know like what I just really mentioned where like if a candle holder had 12 candle holders on it They would alter it and add a 13th one I think it was a Tiffany chandelier in the master, you know in the master entrance the main entrance It was Tiffany chandelier that had 12 and they jury rigged the 13th candle, you know holder Yeah, there had to be a 13th spot like handle on there But apparently I don't know if this happened back when she was alive or if it's or more recent thing But every Friday the 13th at 1300 hours the large bells wrong 13 times, which is kind of cool I'd love to be there on 513 to suck a witness at you know There's another house. I don't mean to get off topic of this, but there's another house I've been wanting to do more research on and that's it's called the Houdini house in Hollywood And I know about it because I used to really be into music I used to play in some heavy metal bands rock and roll bands as a kid and the Houdini house was notorious It's actually owned by Rick Rubin I don't know if he's still the owner but a famous Sound engineer in Hollywood and he constantly has bands record there and I read a book written by Crap Corey from from Slipknot. He was he had his band slipknot actually recorded there He wrote a book talking about some of his experiences with paranormal and one of the chapters was about his experience at that Houdini house And there is some really really really dark messed up crap there And I have no idea what's there But he was talking about just like really dark stuff there and it makes sense because I mean you're playing this heavy metal I mean how uplifting could that be and Rick Rubin constantly just has bands going through there Do whatever they do doing drugs drinking sex partying and it's just not an uplifting environment So that's just a it was it was believe that Harry Houdini owned it But if you look in the actual property records, he never actually owned it for some reason that became known as the Houdini house But yeah, I would love to do more research about that So maybe just stick a pen in it for another topic Well, you can do that I know there's another house that someone posted about recently that was similar to the Winchester house that Didn't just post that I think so I'll have to go back and look at it But there was another house that was like an Englander somewhere where there was another person that did something similar They just kept having the house built on for whatever reason But we can actually tie Houdini to the Winchester mansion Oh really because it's actually called one of the names for it is the Winchester Mystery mansion or mystery house.
Huh Harry Houdini actually toured the house in 1924 good segue. Yes He actually toured the house in 1924 and he called it the mystery house So it's that name kind of stuck. So it's the Winchester mystery house nice You know and actually talking about kind of the Houdini house kind of leads into Alistair Crowley and his house in England Yeah, I was just thinking about my dad I'm so sure Yeah, we really need to do an episode of Alistair Crowley that to probably be a couple of episodes of himself Yeah, just one topic about yeah, yeah, he's a lot of information there And for those who don't know who are Alistair Crowley is Oh, he's the only homework assignment look up Alistair Crowley on the Wikipedia and look kind of creeped out It's not just a good song by Black Sabbath. Yeah, it's he's a weird He was actually referred to as the most evil man who's ever lived wasn't he the one that worshiped to live didn't he like Start the whole Cthulhu thing he had a lot of stuff going on, but we'll say that for its own future episode So do it anything else we want to discuss about the Winchester house your mom I think we're good on the Winchester.
I mean there's that like it's there's a movie coming out which will probably be nothing like Anything that actually happened at the Winchester house, but it's your name, you know, I'm just yeah, I'll share a name I just saw the trailer for it. I know pizza's supposed to be trailer for us to see as a team I'm gonna say give me the idea for 99.9% sure my wife would not want to see it So if we see it as a team, I'd be totally down with that It was moving now we don't know exactly and this next week is finals week and so after that I'll be free until January You know what we need to do is a set up a West movie night You know we should do it for our listeners I was gonna say the same thing because we actually a couple weeks ago We I think it was right after the very little festival with the expo one of the two we actually finally hit over a thousand likes on the Yes, we did we did we still climbing too So yeah, we're still climbing I know that last year I was really pushing for it because we were like 200 likes away and it did take a long to them I would like to do but I would like to reward some of the listeners maybe we can see how much of a cost did you like a private screening So it's just us and some of the listeners that be cool Let's figure out see if it's financially feasible. Yeah, but even if not maybe let's do a whisk moving at meetup We're all meet they like the check around or something and then from there go over to you cars and you're chucking around I'll tell the phae words that he's got the brain down the crowd the king buffet So look for I'm gonna totally just chance here and go back to talking about family tree Look for our ticket cells to be available within the next teens and ticket to buy We should got a ticket to buy sorry never mind. We should have No mute the and mute silent on He's been actually Don't know his mute and half tonight.
I didn't realize it's a comment about him at time traveling on a train I don't know if anybody heard that other than maybe faintly through Dan's mic because Was that why he was coming through so quiet? Yeah, I was like why was he so quiet and I realized he's muted you're a jerk Well, not only do I don't talk very much But he's muted well the problem is that he's actually using peaches Mike Well her mic court and so I had it muted because she's not here and silent Don was not muted in that realize there's no microphone I can't but yeah, we talked about it on our last episode. We on January 13th We will be doing a public investigation at the family tree restaurant So if they're not up for sale by the time you hear this they should be up with in the next day or two Yes, those will be going up and just FYI since the pod bash entity company has not has decided They're no longer gonna be doing public ghost hunts which you would know if you listen to radio run consistently The West team is going to start doing public ghost hunts on a semi regular basis. I have a lot of people asking me about that We're gonna attempt to do at least one a month throughout the next year.
Correct. So we've already started kind of planning on it We're gonna start we're kicking the year off the family tree and then we'll go from there We you'll probably see some venues you're familiar with our hope is to introduce some new venues that you're not our goal is to do one A month and have 12 different venues now and just to be completely upfront for 30 guys on a few of these We probably will try and turn a little bit of a profit keeps the team afloat on some of these just based on the price and the venue You'll be paying basically venue fee to get in and we're not gonna be we're not gonna make a dime off you exactly We'll take the cost of any split it X number of ways right there There's some venues that we would love to get into that charge per head and quite frankly like family tree It's 40 dollars per person a sign on 49 the same way so if we bring we have no sale for people It's expensive for you people it's expensive expensive It just no matter how many people you ring the price just gets higher for each individual person So on those we won't be charging anything extra because it's already kind of expensive as it is we will never charge for residential Investigations no for us to come to your home and fix things and figure out what's going on in your house We never ever ever ever ever charge money the public investigations that we do for your Benefit yeah, we're gonna make money off of some on some of them on some of the less expensive venues We'll probably turn off actually actually get some feedback on that where people say They don't feel you should mention or that you don't need to mention that Oh, we don't make money on these or whatever because you sound tickets obviously You're gonna be making some money on some some we do on some on on a lot of skis We're quite frankly covering the venue and on a few were covering the venue and maybe paying for ourselves So that we don't have to pay so you're paying for us to be there. Thank you. We love you Um, but you can No, I don't listen to that show you know I listen to I listen to the wisp show and I listen to the wife from the large Please and I try to go through radio running and sometimes are good But I was literally so pissed off at something they said that I shut the show off to call you to bitch about it They don't listen to our show do they you know?
It's funny as last time you called Kenny out and said you don't listen to the show Yeah, we got a text from Kenny saying I do to listen to the show with guys But I didn't hear from the other show so I think I think any listens but I don't think the other two do Anyway before we call it a night we have anything else we want to discuss or any other housekeeping items Okay, hey check by the which page which org we will have tickets going up for so we've got a lot of exciting stuff that we're planning for 2018 yeah 2018 is maybe big including with merchandise we are gonna start selling some swag In fact the end is another GX I'm a toll for a bintlinger now live on the show Dan's going to order some swag From where we order or schwag from king Um swag swag swag again. Try it swag swag Stuff we all get swag swag swag anyway But it's swap yeah the the sh is implied swag It's crappy then swag In German when there's an s before a hard consonant you automatically add that sound okay So instead of saying like Stuttgart it would be Stuttgart just saying and there you have it kids the German pronunciation equinine on an us Alright everybody have a great night. Thanks for listening and we will be back for our final show of the year from the family restaurant Peace out butterflies damn quit touching my wand You're listening to the Wisps was at your investigative studies for paranormal science They're grown as adults the like to sit in the dark and talk to each other, but they all love their moms So that should account for something