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EPISODE · Jul 31, 2026 · 32 MIN

To Be, Carnally or Spiritually Minded (Romans 8:5-11), parts 1/4

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Send us Fan MailRomans 8 doesn’t let us keep the comfortable middle category. We sit with Paul’s words in Romans 8:5-6 and follow his insistence that there are two kinds of people: those “after the flesh” and those “after the Spirit.” Not two moods. Not a believer toggling between settings. Two realms, two masters, two orientations of the mind that show up in what we love, what we pursue, and what we call normal. We trace how this “two classes” theme runs across the whole Bible, from Genesis onward, and why Scripture keeps using paired contrasts like life and death, light and darkness, sheep and goats, wheat and tares. That isn’t meant to feed pride; it’s meant to clarify what regeneration actually means. If the Spirit gives new birth, the change isn’t cosmetic. It’s internal, deep-seated, and revealed in the governing direction of the mind. Then we slow down over Romans 8:6: “to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.” We ask the blunt question the text forces: can someone be dead and alive at the same time? That leads straight into the controversial claim of the night: there is no such thing as a “carnal Christian.” We also tackle a common objection from 1 Corinthians 3:1 and explain why that verse trips people up when it’s pulled away from clearer passages. If this challenged your categories, listen through and weigh the Scriptures with us. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves Romans, and leave a review with the verse you think best answers the “carnal Christian” question.Support the showBE PROVOKED AND BE PERSUADED!

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Send us Fan Mail Romans 8 doesn’t let us keep the comfortable middle category. We sit with Paul’s words in Romans 8:5-6 and follow his insistence that there are two kinds of people: those “after the flesh” and those “after the Spirit.” Not two moods. Not a believer toggling between settings. Two realms, two masters, two orientations of the mind that show up in what we love, what we pursue, and what we call normal. We trace how this “two classes” theme runs across the whole Bible, from ...

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