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And welcome to what's it called? Oh, man. King me presents the examination. The examination of the Western genre by the cowards, Robin Dan.
That's right. That's Robin Dan. I'm Rob. I'll be talking like this the entire thing.
Oh, how come you get to be Doc Rob? Why can't I be Doc Dan? You could be Doc Dan too. There could be two Docs.
No, I think that's not going to do a famous. There's a room for one Doc on this podcast. This podcast ain't big enough for the two of us to be Doc. Oh, man.
I. All right. First off, thank you for listening everybody. I'm going to be gushing over this movie because I love it so much.
And I will be more measured. You'll be more measured like you maybe like a little tin cup, a little tin measuring cup. But you're like refill that as many times as I need. Yeah.
That little tin cup. Cool. Cool. And this is not we're not talking about the movie tin cup here.
That's maybe later. That's way down the line. That's a little further down yonder. Just passed the OK Corral.
I love that things used to just be named like letters. Like, yeah, what was it in Unforgiven? The bar is called like Barty. You talk about Barty?
Yeah, Barty. Well, I can't think of anything. Just give it a letter. Yeah.
But this week, we're talking about a different tea. Yeah. Tombstone. Tea Oomstone.
Tiumstone. Beloved picture. People love this. I think.
Yeah, I think this is a pretty universally loved movie. I had a great time watching it. It's so fun. It's I didn't reckon.
Yeah, I didn't reckon, ma'am. That it would have meat where it's brain should it's just like a meathead movie. Hundreds of minutes. Yeah.
Fucking. No. Just like it's like little kid cowboy logic. 100%.
This movie was written by a 10 year old boy. But that's what's so fun about it. I think it was last week on Unforgiven. When we were talking about doing, you know, saying next Tuesday, we're going to do Tombstone, whatever.
I said, it's much more popcorny kind of movie than Unforgiven. Unforgiven has like some some emotional like half to it. Yeah. I'm forgiven as shit to say.
This movie has nothing to say. It's got your brains, maybe. Lawman good evil cowboy bad. You know what though?
I don't know if Lawman good is ultimately what the movie is saying. I really honestly don't. What do you think it's saying? I mean, I think it's just I really don't I honestly don't know if this movie is saying anything.
I think it's just depicting. Yeah. I mean, I don't you know, like the, you know, we'll get into it with the stuff at the OK Corral. Even like historians are not entirely sure if that was on the level as far as like wider business gang being justified in shooting cowboys and such.
It seems all very like gray area and maybe they, you know, were abusing power and shit like that. That is not present in this movie. I agree, but it's also like everybody by the end of it. It really is.
I don't know if it's law good and out law bad. I think it's more like Kurt Russell as wider good. Val Kilmer as dog holiday good and everybody else bad guys. You know, yeah, yeah, fair.
I think this is much more of this feels like a vanity project for for Kurt Russell because you know, I think behind the scenes it turns into that. And then it's also, I think, you know, universally considered Val Kilmer's best performance. It's he's so good. I couldn't believe it.
It's like crazy. All I was going into this was you being like, he does a funny accent. Maybe a little bits and pieces. Sure.
But he is acting his fucking ass off like that. All I could think coming out of this was like they no one in this. They don't deserve him. I know.
They don't deserve what he gave them. Yes. He's he's like, he's Dr. Manhattan.
I know I read your letter box review about he's Dr. Manhattan. When like, Doc Manhattan. Yes.
Doc Manhattan. The way that in the watchman everybody is just kind of a normal guy, maybe like smart and like athletic, but nobody has superpowers except for Dr. Manhattan who can just give this a raise. People.
Yeah. And that's kind of how Doc Holiday is in this movie where he enters the scene and you're like, is anybody else in the room with you? Where did everybody go? Yeah.
It's crazy. Um, yeah, it's, it's unbelievable. Like there's a thing Val Kilmer is really good at that. I know from Kiss Kiss, bang bang, which is like, yeah, I mean, the guy can sell any joke.
You give him. We know this. But he does this thing where he's like, he's good at selling what I would, I guess you would call a diegetic joke where it's like supposed to be funny in the movie. He can sell those and I feel like those don't always work.
Like in the way that a song written for a movie that's supposed to be like a popular song always sounds like a little weird. Yeah, it doesn't always, they don't, they can't always be that thing you do. Right. Exactly.
In fact, they almost never are. Right. So too do I feel like when someone's like making a joke and it's understood to be a joke in the reality of the thing. Yes.
You know, it doesn't always work, but he just fucking kills it, man. He's telling the joke as the character. Always. He is telling the joke as a character.
He also like, I think, I mean, he's a pretty funny guy. I think he's very funny. I think he's got, he has witticism setter. Very, very fun.
And it's just his timing is incredible. He's unbelievable. Now on a little, a little preview here on Friday, we're going to be talking about my darling Clementine also about Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday. I haven't watched it yet.
Dan has watched it. Yes. I assume it's completely different. It's quite different.
Doc Holliday is more like a brooding kind of. Yeah. He doesn't have an accent at all. He's like sort of like, they take a lot of liberties with the history.
I don't even know if he's supposed to be from the south in that. They're like, ah, yes, you came here from Boston. Right. What do you hear?
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You could sign up for a free week, test it out, test the water, see if you like it. Thank you. Thank you. But yeah, so we're in the middle of our Western examination, our Western series here.
And yeah, last week was unforgiven, like we said, and that is a pretty heavy movie, right? So I got a lot of, you know, it's an examination of like aging and masculinity. And what, like, can you change as a person? And like, is it ever, you know, what is it all?
Was it all four kind of shit? Right. This movie is like, what if I tell you what it's for? Yeah.
For being a cowboy. What if I live your life like you know you're in a movie? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I, this movie, I think it definitely, it's a very fun movie. And I think it probably works a lot better if you see it as a kid, not to say that's not entertaining as a grown up. But if you see it as a kid, you're like, all other Western seem like kind of boring and dusty and whatever.
And then if you're a kid and you watch this, you're like, this is fun. I am on board. It feels like a 90s blockbuster just in every way. It's so like lavish, like it looks so expensive.
Everyone's it's got that 90s thing of like it doesn't matter that it's set in like the dusty old West, like everyone's clean as hell unless they're a bad guy. Yeah. Right. During the dress to the fucking nines.
Very cosmopolitan. Very cosmopolitan. Exactly. But yeah, the whole thing is just like shiny and loud.
Like the score is so overdone. Yes. Every, it feels like every second of the movie is music in it. You get the stuff like that big stupid montage of them riding around killing down the Cowboys.
Yeah, totally. And I thought about it too in contrast to like, oh, God, help me. A fist full of dollars where like just the way that like they shoot people riding horses, you notice it a lot. And like granted, this is like, I think I clocked this in the shot where he's riding with that Chica who can act.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That whole thing.
Do away with that. Get get that whole plot line out. You know that you need that. You need that.
You need that. You need that. No, you do not. We'll go on.
That was exhausting. But them riding, it's like they're riding through grass and it's like so smooth. Like there's no sense of like tactility or like the like, yeah, just like the force of what's happening here. And you think of that in comparison to like fist full of dollars where it's like, you feel every hoof beat in your chest is there like, you know, running at like full fucking speed through the desert or whatever.
Absolutely. Absolutely. This is a Hollywood movie. Yes.
This is this is shiny as shit. It feels like the way like sort of with pre spaghetti, Western, like Hollywood sort of Westerns were like, oh, yeah, like, I guess they're kind of like, they're in the West, but I could tell that's a fucking movie set and like, yeah, all that kind of shit. You know, that's that's what this feels like. This is just like kind of a modern version of that.
Yeah. Since you're the budget was $9 billion. 25 million. That's pretty.
I mean, you know, doing like a. Yeah, in 93 bucks. That's probably 100 million 150 or something now. Yeah.
Twenty granted, like, cast is pretty stacked. Cast is insane. I mean, they got Thomas Hayden church and this thing. They do a lot of these guys.
They don't. This is like kind of before they blow up or it's a lot of character actors, whatever. But let's so all right. It's directed by George Cosmodos who or is it exactly?
There's, you know, there's rumors and talks or whatever that Kurt Russell ended up taking over directing a picture or, you know, start throwing his weight around and whatever. That's totally possible. And it would make a lot of sense. The way that wider is depicted in this movie.
He's just the best guy in the world. Right. And also, like, I don't know if a real director would allow that scene where he's standing in the rain with his brother's blood on his hands to play out for the for 20 minutes. That does.
You don't say so? I got a hope not. I mean, look, if that were me in that we're in those like riding, riding shorts with the tall boots or whatever, I would have been like, uh, all right. Well, that's you.
Um, I didn't make fucking tombstone, did I? No, you didn't. So, uh, so George Cosmodos also directed Rambo first blood part two, a very funny title for that movie. Um, also this movie is also written by the writer of Rambo first blood part two, Kevin jar.
Yeah, the guy also wrote glory and the mummy, the Brendan Fraser movie. Great movie. Great films. Um, and then, uh, so whatever creative team, and then we have the cast, which is stacked.
You got Kurt Russell as wider. Um, first off, got to say movies filled to the brim with great mustaches. The mustache budget on this thing out of control. I mean, totally, totally out of control.
It was probably like 10 years ago or something. I was watching this movie. I was like, I need a mustache like this. I need to get my shit together.
Grow down mustache. We look at all the photos of you. I think we can find the exact moment you want like the moment you're talking about. Yeah, I'm sure.
Um, Sam Elliott, another great mustache, great mustache. Also my wardrobe from home, which is in check or mental. Uh, where I'm from. I kind of sent in like Jesse Ventura for you.
I'm from my from Sacramento. I'm from Sacramento. I live down in the Vanish way. I went out.
Uh, yeah. Or, uh, I can't, that's all I can think about that. It would be very slower than that. I'll just a little things are from.
I'm from Sacramento. You're in Sacramento. I'm a crazy person that thinks he was a really good cowboy. That's so, it's so funny.
It's where we talking about that, how he like, it's like awesome butler thing. Like you can't drop it. But it's like deeper. It's yeah.
Yeah. Um, yeah, to the point where you're like, like, what was the movie? Um, it's the power of the dog. Is that the Western with Benedict Cumberbatch from a couple of years ago?
Oh, Jesus, I have no idea. I think that's what it was. That is the name of that movie. All right.
So in that movie, there are like, I haven't seen the movie myself, but I guess they're like homosexual undertones to like aspects of it in the category. Yeah. And then and San Ellie was like, weren't any fucking gay cowboys or whatever. What do you know about also?
It's like, sorry, man, but you were you played Patrick Swayze's best friend and roadhouse. Like I I hate to tell you how that looks. You're in where I was sitting. Yeah.
Exactly. You guys really what it's like. It's like there's dicks. Um, really what it's like is like the Mike Rofing where he just like played a blue collar guy for so long.
Yeah. It's like cosplay. Right? Yeah.
Exactly. It's blue collar cosplay where they're just like, oh, yeah, no, I've played enough cowboys. I've interviewed enough blue collar workers that I'm kind of like, I'm an honorary cowboy. Like also like a doctor from a fucking college that he didn't go to.
It's like the evil version of Ron Perlman who thinks he's Hellboy. Now where he's like, or is like, Hey Trump, I'm going to hit you with my big red hand. All of these guys are insane. I know.
I know. I I love it. I think it's great that everybody is cosplaying as the characters that they played in movies. So that's all I want in Hollywood is is demented freaks.
That's all. Yeah, please. It's only really one. So Kurt Russell, we mentioned Val Kilmer.
I'll kill my stock holiday star of the show. So, OK, this movie should be called Val Kilmer in Val Kilmer's Tombstone. See, I'll kill her picture. I think so you watch this movie and you're like, he has a supporting character in this, even though in every scene that he's in, he steals it immediately.
You can't take your eyes off of him, right? And all this like, oh, he's so ashy. Oh, yeah. But truly, like every one of his lines is like something that like is like some quotable line, you know, on your huckleberry is the name of his autobiography.
You know, I mean, like whatever, you know, I think like John Ringo, it looks like somebody walked over your grave. You feel like that? People are like, I think it's amazing that on your huckleberry, like pays off as like, you hear that and it strikes fear into someone's heart, right? Like at the end there.
Yeah, it's good. Yeah. But I use this as an example when it's because like whatever, modern media in general, the sort of Disneyification of everything where they're like, oh, yeah, you like that one character that was in the movie for like five minutes. Let's do an eight episode mini series on them, right?
Yeah. And you're like, I don't really need it. You know what I mean? That's what Doc Holiday is in this movie where you're like, you want more Doc Holiday.
You're like, I want the movie to be about this guy. Every time he comes into the room, you're like, why isn't everybody talking about this guy? You know what I mean? You're like, I want two hours of this, but it's too much.
Like if it was, I'm not convinced. No, I truly believe that like it, this is like classic leave the audience wanting worship where it's like they, if you had a two hour movie with this character, would it be fun? Sure. It could be great, possibly.
But it's also that thing of like, man, he just destroys every scene and you only want more of it and you can't have it. And and that's like kind of the beauty of the the character and the performance and everything is that like, yeah, you get what you get and you love every fucking morsel of it, but you got to move on, man. I respectfully disagree. I'd watch two hours of him speaking Latin.
I mean, I would have loved to have seen him do his Mark Twain, like one man show. Yeah. That was like filmed. I don't know.
Gotta be right. Gotta be somewhere. So you have El Kilmer. I mean, talk about being someone's huckleberry.
Seriously. Yeah, don't get me started. Don't get me started on huckleberries, please. Bill Paxton as Morgan Earp, the youngest Earp brother.
I like, I mean, he is, I'm a Paxton fan. I like Bill Paxton. Of course. Who doesn't?
Right. I love how fucking silly his character is in this where he's like, well, you ever think about what heaven is like, what it's like to die. I mentioned this, of course, for no particular reason. But he's the way that everything is just like, man, you ever have big thoughts?
He's like a Kelsey brother. It's like a Kelsey. Why we should start a podcast. Man, when we get a house, we need to put a pool table in.
I love this game. I feel like that, you know, he's just an absolute more on. Yeah. That's great.
Powers Booth as Curly Bill, the leader of the Cowboys, another, I think, fucking fanta. I saw that. What was that? Fly?
Yeah, went right in front of the camera, didn't it? I did. I saw it. It was like, you looked right in its crazy eyes.
Yeah, I saw all of its eyes. Oh, I'm sorry you had to see that. It's OK. I got one the other day.
You know how they're kind of hard to get. Yeah. And guess what I felt after? Well, deep guilt.
Oh, you killed it? Yes. Yeah. I don't think I'm like that.
That's empathy, Dan. That's the last thing I need. I know. In 2025, not a good question.
That's not a winning quality. There's not how you win championships in 2025. No way, my guy. No, it's not not in the cards.
No, I usually don't. I don't like killing bugs, but flies are flies around my hit list. I will kill a fly. Sorry.
I'd rather do it with a gun. It's cleaner. I do have one of those salt guns somewhere. Really?
Yeah. I know that was the thing. I'm in a real gun. Oh, no.
You know what the salt gun? No, I'm going to get it. Yeah. I mean, it's like a little toy, like shotgun, basically, and you put table salt in it and it fires off like a spray.
Wow. So it's like proportionate. So the fly is buzzing around being like, I want a pool table in my house. Yeah.
And I'm like, I'm like curly bill outside. Like, hold on. Yeah, dirty dog. I'm fucking you're you're in your huge teeth laughing it up.
Yes. Oh, yeah. My giant teeth. I guess all of my original teeth fell out and they were replaced by horse teeth.
So he's our bad guy if you can believe that he's like the head of the bad guys, but the worst guy is Michael B. Play as Johnny Ringo. Johnny Ringo. Is he the one who speaks Latin also?
Yeah. Yes. Johnny Ringo kind of a psycho path, but a smart guy, educated man. Sort of a dark holiday.
A dark holiday. Exactly. I mean, these guys are that one scene where he's like, what do you think? Sweetheart?
Should I hate him? An educated man. Now I know I hate him. Great.
Great stuff. All great stuff. I'm like, oh, I'm like a little kid. Like he hates him.
Yeah. But yeah, Johnny Ringo, he's like second in command here and he's like the fastest gun that the Cowboys have here. Is that I'm telling you if I'm pronouncing this right? Charlton Heston.
Yeah, that's right. Oh, Charlton Heston as a like more of a cameo as like the head of a ranch that they have to hold up at for for a bit. They get a lot of these like sort of legacy cowboy guys in there. The narrator that does an aeration in the beginning and the end is Robert Mitchum.
You know, just old Hollywood dudes. Sure. Our love letter to the great Westerns of the 40s and 50s. Yes.
Yay. These guys are dumb. Let's see. Let's just increase.
He's really is Billy Breckenridge, who's he's like he works with the county sheriff. He's also friends with the Cowboys. He's also gay. But it's only like it's like they dance around it.
They never kind of out. They're just yeah, they're kind of just like. They call him like the sister boy or something like that. Yeah.
Yeah. Some antiquated. Yeah. Yeah.
They weren't they hadn't perfected the art of the slumber. The art of the slumber. Yeah. You do kind of feel for him right when he's like those were my friends.
I know. Like they were mean to you. Yeah. Right.
Someone said that to him. Yeah. Why he walks away. He's like he's like I'm just a nothing.
So I can't do anything. But if I was something I would fight you and then he walks away and then wider. It says all the ever did was laugh at him. But you know, this one is my drone fucking business.
Why it? That's what I say. That's it. John.
And Tenny as a B. Han who's like that is the county sheriff who he's like this guy is a fucking piece of shit. He's like he's like he's nobody. No, but he's like he is he's dating Josephine will get to her in a second.
But and then he's also like in cahoots with the Cowboys, right? So he's kind of a bad dude. Stephen Lang as Ike clan Stephen Lang, of course, the bad guy from the Avatar movies. So quaritch is so crazy.
Like he's been around forever. He's been a character actor since like eighties. But it's just crazy to see him in this where he already looks kind of old, but he's a small guy. And then you watch the fucking Avatar movies and he's absolutely yoked because he's playing military or whatever, right?
And he's so sort of big and intimidating. But that's sort of the beauty of I think him as an actor is like he can he could fit into all of these sort of different parts. He can be blue if you need him to be Navi. He could be Navi.
He's also of course a King along. Yes, from a good marriage. Is that what it is? I knew he was in something.
Yeah, it's the one where he's like investigating what is essentially the BTK killer. That's right. That's the one with Anthony. La Paaglia.
La Paaglia. La Paaglia. The Aussie Anthony La Paaglia. That's right.
Yeah. So then you got like Thomas Aiden Church, places brother, Billy, Clint, just a baby face. Thomas Aiden Church here. He's pretty good.
He has some good stuff with Doc Holliday early on. Yeah, he's right. Because he's saying to Doc Holliday, like they're drinking together, he's like, boy, this whiskey is good. But I'll tell you what, I really like to drink a lot of his wine.
I love wine. I love wine. Wine, wine, wine, tree. Dana Delaney, sex with Sondro.
Sorry, go on. Dana Delaney is Josephine Marcus, the actress. It comes to town. Really?
Just there's the door. I said this whole thing. I need one second of this. I mean, I agree.
It doesn't need to be in the movie at all. I think the entire subplot of like Wyatt and his junky wife and I and him falling in love with this actress woman, I think it just adds this weird again. It's sort of like child's storytelling aspect to the movie being like, he's got a wife, but she's she's hooked on drugs. And that's all she cares about.
And then he meets a very pretty actress lady. And then again, right again, it's like, I mean, good guys, bad guys. All of that. It's very long.
Good. Yes. Yeah. Well, it's got way bad drugs bad.
Therefore, lady bad. And also lady must die. Yeah, therefore, lady must die off screen. Off screen.
Yeah, she goes out of train to heaven. Excuse me. When's the next next train across the rainbow bridge? Yeah, that whole thing, man, is very weird.
It is. Also, like, there's no sort of like, I think the thing they don't say is that his wife, who is played by Dana Wheeler Nichols and Matty, or Matty. It's supposed to be like his common law wife. So maybe it's just like an arranged, like an arrangement, a marriage of convenience type of thing.
I don't know. It all seems very in the movie, at least it's presented as very official. And like it is like when they get off the train in, I think they're in Tucson, but when they get off the train, the first thing she says is, that is on screen is I couldn't find a store that had a lot of them. She's like, all right.
All right. So that's that's your thing. That's your whole deal, I guess. OK.
All right. Paula Malcomson, who plays Alli Earp, who's the Irish, Virgil's Irish wife, she is she's been in a ton of stuff. She was on Ray Donovan. She was Ray Donovan's wife.
Just like an actress has been around for decades now. She's been in a ton of things. Shout out to Ray Donovan. Ray Donovan.
She's also on Deadwood. Deadwood. That's why she plays one of the ladies. Yes, she's a Trixie.
Trix, of course, that's that I was fucking trying to figure that out. OK. Yeah, she's the one she's the one who kills that guy. I haven't seen all of them.
Oh, right. OK. But she's the one who she's like the main girl at at least in season one. She's like Swearinger's like main.
That's right. Cause there's Trixie and then there's a powers, booths. Yeah. Yeah.
I was getting the mixed up. OK. And then Trixie is the one who like she's like hooking up with John Hawks at a certain point. Yeah.
So it's that OK, you got Michael Rooker as McMaster's Harry, Kerry, Jr. Right. No, different guy, different guy. But Harry, Kerry, Jr.
This guy was in the searchers, the John Wayne movie from like 1956, like another legacy sort of cowboy actor. And we're relevant to our interests. He plays Mr. Anderson, but not that Mr.
Anderson plays Mr. Anderson in Gremlins. Oh, yeah, of course. Billy Bob Thornton.
Chubby Bob Thornton. That's right. Chubby Bob Thornton. You had told me this was coming and it still completely caught me.
I know. I had no idea he ever looked like this. No, you I mean, you wouldn't, right? Like he's only in this movie for like five minutes or something.
He had to commit to losing weight because you can't be rockabilly as a plus size. I can't stand on my goddamn base if I'm so heavy. Can't go all the way up on the toes of my my patent leather boots. I can't marry Angelina Jolie if I'm a great big fat person.
That you can't stay married to her if you're a skinny string bean. That's true. That's tough, brother. That's tough, man.
Well, you got hold on. Robert John Burke plays one of the Cowboys, another King alum. We know him from the movie. Finne.
This again, didn't this just come up on the last episode too? Yeah, it comes up a lot. I'm sorry. He's not our guy who gets thinner, of course.
He is the guy that gets better. He's the thin man. He's the thin man. Yeah.
Oh, I remember that at all. Yeah. Um, let's see. Of course, this is a real naming people episode, but what can you do when the cast is this?
I mean, it's like Paul Ben Victor, who plays Florentino, the sort of Mexican cowboy that rides with them. We know him as we saw him in the true romance. He was one of the what's his name? Christopher Walkins, like gangster flunkies, who also didn't like speak English in that movie.
Only spoke Italian. Um, yeah. Uh, there's Billy Zane, of course, is in this movie. Billy Zane has a beautiful head of hair as Mr.
Fabian. Mr. Rollie was born to play. He is an actor.
He comes with like, he shows up with Josephine. They're part of an acting company or whatever. He does the, um, what was it? The Saint Chris Bien's speech from Henry the one of those.
One of those anyway. Um, also, I suppose an offscreen love interest to Jason Priestley. Um, oh, right. Yeah, they do sort of when they, when he's performing on stage, Jason, they're like, they ask Priestley, like, what do you think?
And he's like, I think he's wonderful. And then they're like, yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. You're gay.
Yes. Ah, there's a guy, an actor in this movie, Dan named Wyatt Earp. Rob, I was going to mention it. I'm glad you did.
Do we know what the fuck? What is that? What's going on there? I mean, I assume that he got the role because his name was Wyatt Earp.
So he's Wyatt Earp the third. Is he, um, he must be a distant relative to the historical figure. Wider is what the IMDB or the, uh, yeah, IMDB trivia says that's a real testament to how he is the fifth cousin of Wyatt Earp. That's seriously, that is just how stupid this movie is.
Like that's such a dumb guy thing. Right. That's like, Oh, we got like, we got like, we got like, we got a guy, an entrepreneur, yes, to come to our Italian food festival. I got Frank Sinatra's third cousins.
Best friend. Right. It's like, yeah, there's like a, I think there's like a, it's like, is it curly Joe's son or something? There's like some distant stooge who's like, I'm, I'm stooge adjacent.
Yeah. Yeah. That sort of thing. And of course, I mean, Matt Besser is a descendant of curly Joe Besser.
Oh, really? Yeah, you didn't know that was curly Joe's last name. I didn't know that he was a Nepo baby. Yeah.
Matt Besser of the UCB, a bit of a comedy legacy. I'd say that must have been like a hard conversation when they were like, you know, we're going to know, no son of mine is going to make prank phone calls. You're going to get chased around by a gorilla with a machine gun. Yeah.
You have the account on the fucking hand with the hammer and, uh, oh, my God. Speaking of fucking relatives and weirdo, like Nepo, Frank Stallone is in this movie. He is Frank Stallone plays Ed Bailey. Oh, of course.
Of course, it all makes sense. I could take down this yarn and all these pins now. No, in the, in the very beginning of the movie when Doc is playing cards and that guy calls him a, you're nothing but a skinny longer. Oh, yeah.
He's like, yeah, you know, the bus ski. You look and he says, what a ugly thing to say. Is that all that? That guy with the message that's right.
So long. How about that? How about that? Of course, John Corbett from a Greek wedding.
Yeah, that's funny that he's there. He's there to Terry O'Quinn plays the mayor. John Locke. John Locke himself.
That's the one. Watch that show. Yeah, it's OK. You don't have to.
Good. Good. One less thing. Why?
I think that's like, I think that I'm sure that there are more like characters and legacy people here, but there's a guy named Glenn Gold, which is almost Glenn Gould. Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, let's talk about that. OK, one letter off.
That's my estimation. Feel free to disagree or expand on that. Yeah, it's about everyone. Yeah, it's about everyone, which is just as well.
That's a lot of people. Oh, my God. Joanna Packula sounds like Dracula, but she plays Kate Doc holidays. Woman is mean squeeze.
He's like my Romanian queen. Yeah, he does say it. Where's your from? My Hungarian Hungarian.
That's right. I mean, if I know anything about Dracula's, I think they come from Hungary. Is that right? Well, Transylvania.
Are you just thinking about how they're always hungry? Hungry for blood? Maybe that's it. It must be.
It's got to be it. He's a mistake. So that's the cast. Yeah, so this is the first time that you've seen this movie, right?
Yeah, first time I sat down and watched it all the way through. OK. So we get like a bit of a like introduction. There's like a black and white sort of video film played in the very beginning with Robert Mitch and talking over the old West and all of these and then these bad guys known as the Cowboys, right?
Bunch of like outlaws or whatever, but it's a gang. They all wear red sashes, which at the time was the toughest thing you could do. Yeah. Hey, that's a pretty cool sash.