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EPISODE · May 21, 2026 · 10 MIN

‘Too human: Shame, horror, aversion’ by Kevin Hart

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This week on The ABR Podcast, Kevin Hart reviews Turning Away: The poetics of an ancient gesture by Benjamin Saltzman. Saltzman examines our instinct to ‘turn away, whenever we are faced with death, grief, helplessness, loss, and pain’. He traces the representation of this elemental human gesture from literary classics and ancient artwork to modern films, plays, and narratives. Hart notes that Saltzman’s book is ‘a study not only of aversion but of transformation’. But what is the ethical implication of turning away in a ‘world of violence, pain, and grief’? ‘This is more than flinching’, Hart writes, ‘it is a reaction of horror mixed with shame.’ Kevin Hart is the Jo Wright University Distinguished Professor at Duke Divinity School. His most recent poetry collections are Carnets, published in 2025 by Cascade Press, and Firefly, just published by Pitt St Poetry in Sydney. Here is Kevin Hart with ‘Too human: Shame, horror, aversion’, published in the May issue of ABR.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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