Too many notes with Matua Andy

What happens when you get cheeky to an All Black? Or how does someone get tricked in to becoming a teacher? These are all questions that end up being unintentionally answered when you ask the top dog at Ōtaki College, what he thinks it is to be a leader. Featuring too many prepared notes, a healthy dose of Whiskey chat and one other question before we had to cut him short. Tune in to find out more!