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EPISODE · Jul 16, 2026 · 1H 7M

Too Much for Some, Just Right for Others: Amy Cordero-Houk on Being Authentic, Unapologetic, and Done with Chasing Everyone's Approval

from Learnings and Missteps by Depth Builder · host Jesse

There's a version of "authentic" that's just an excuse to be obnoxious. Amy Houk isn't that version. Amy is the president of National Lien Services and RSC Preliminary Lien Services and joins Jesse to talk about turning 50 and how that moment changed everything: she stopped caring about most things and started caring a lot more about the things that mattered. She gets real about the line between authenticity and being difficult, why she owns her role in conflict instead of playing the victim, and the apology she almost didn't give (but did). They also dig into saying the quiet part out loud, why boundaries beat manipulation every time, and how to spot a narcissistic dynamic before it costs you. Then Amy pulls back the curtain on the side of construction most people ignore until it's too late — protecting your payments and mitigating risk before a project turns into a collections nightmare. Listen now, and find Amy online for more on risk, contracts, and getting paid what you're owed. https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyhouk/ 00:00 Not Too Much 00:18 Meet Amy Houck 02:59 Desert Whales Icebreaker 04:49 Writing Like Yourself 06:23 Authenticity As Brand 09:20 Finding Courage At Fifty 09:54 Mom The Powerhouse 12:19 Shout Out Segment 13:13 Authentic Not Obnoxious 18:01 Men Versus Boys 18:19 Gen X Follow Up Email 22:24 Truth With Kindness 25:16 Narcissism Talk 29:41 What Lien Services Do 32:31 Leading By Educating 34:32 Monthly Live Webinars 35:24 Respecting Construction Risk 37:37 Ranch Roots Work Ethic 39:07 Service Driven Leadership 42:10 Authenticity And Influence 45:02 Posers And Being Enough 47:37 Honesty With Responsibility 49:06 Narcissist Fallout Lesson 53:29 How To Start Authentic 58:31 Promise To Stay Open 01:02:32 Where To Find Amy Lets leave the Construction Industry Better than We Found It https://www.depthbuilder.com/construction-leadership-lab Download the free PDF copy of Becoming the Promise You are Intended to Be

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There's a version of "authentic" that's just an excuse to be obnoxious. Amy Houk isn't that version. Amy is the president of National Lien Services and RSC Preliminary Lien Services and joins Jesse to talk about turning 50 and how that moment changed everything: she stopped caring about most things and started caring a lot more about the things that mattered. She gets real about the line between authenticity and being difficult, why she owns her role in conflict instead of playing the victim,...

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