“TOXIC MASCULINITY?”

Keanu. Yes, sir. Welcome back. Welcome back.

Now, tonight, I want to talk about toxic masculinity with you. First, I want to give a definition to you know, I like definitions. I need to type it to be clear, you know, toxic masculinity, it refers to the stereotypical masculinity, masculine general roles that restrict the kinds of emotions, allow for boys and men to express, including social expectations that men seek to dominate. What are your thoughts about that definition or talk about masculinity?

I think it is just as the definition says, I think it's toxic. I think it's one of the underlying reasons for the whole Me Too movement and all that being that, just like it said, it creates a hierarchy between men and women. So, therefore, men are going to continue to do what their dad taught them and the dad's going to teach what their dad taught them. So, if they're gender roles and then if men are considered higher in the hierarchy than females, if females are therefore inferior, then I think it's definitely a problem.

So, you feel like, okay, so you think the majority of men think that women are inferior to them? Most definitely, and it's not just them thinking that it's their taught them. So, it's like you're taught, you have to take care of her, she's fragile, she's incapable of taking care of herself, just like when you were talking, when we talked about the What's going on, you're kind of breaking up. Hello.

Yes, Ken. Got your bag. Yes. No, you were saying.

I think the last thing I was just giving an example of when we spoke about the rape culture and you said that women shouldn't go places by themselves, they should always have a man with him. And I was just saying like things like that, you didn't mean that in a negative way, but just having to think like that just shows that there's definitely a hierarchy and that men are perceived to be the ones that are strong and that are the protectors. So perpetuating that definitely has to make a separation between men and women. Yeah, but you know, like, even when I was saying that I was in a way like, because we are because we are physically stronger, naturally than women.

And if if somebody is perceived to be a threat, they see how little men that's likely to try to harm you and type away, you know, don't you agree with that? Sure. That was not like you agree with it at all. I don't agree with that.

That's what I'm saying. Just that type of mindset thinking that I have to have a man for somebody to take like, oh, I'm not the best with her because the guy that hurt people considered men and women equal, then that wouldn't even be a thing like I wouldn't have to think, oh, should I bother her today? Because she's with a guy or should I, you know, should I not bother her rather because she's with a guy and then oh, I'll bother her because she's alone. Like if we were considered to be equal on the same playing field and they'd be like, oh, I'm not going to bother her on the basis of whatever or I'm going to bother her just because that's what the hell I'm going to do.

Or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And I know you weren't saying that in a negative way. I'm just saying it's your taught that. So being at something that's probably going to be perpetuated continuously.

So that's all I was saying. So I would do to find masculinity then. So just like it's definitely defined by gender roles. So a lot of the time masculinity is just perceived to be more of your alpha male.

So like I'm so strong. I'm so tough. I don't cry. I have no emotions other than anger.

Like, look how angry I can get. Look how physical I can be. I think that's predominantly what society looks at as masculinity versus like if you're just like you're a man, but to be a man, you have to be strong. You have to be like a protector.

I'll fight anybody like I can beat up everyone. I'm the biggest like the toughest rather like that's what society projects masculinity is. So how do you define how do you find femininity? Anything not masculine.

Like anything else. Like you can have a guy that's clearly a man. He likes females, but he doesn't go to the gym all the time. Or he doesn't.

Let's go with. Okay. Perfect example. So you have a guy.

He's he's the heterosexual, which is a part of being masculine. He's a heterosexual male, but he doesn't like sports. The first thing that somebody said is he's a bitch or like he's not a man because he doesn't like football or he doesn't like any type of sport. That's the first thing.

Like he's a bitch. Those type of things. That's what I mean. So pretty much anything that's not being strong and tough and aggressive is considered feminine.

Yeah, well, I don't think like made it all like sports or bitches. I mean, you know, I do think though, like men that are effeminate on that actually feminine. I think you could like the numbers, bitches. And what is effeminate?

I mean, like effeminate would be having policies of a woman that are traditionally for women, like, you know, having a lot of fans. You know, not really taking care of your household, the being dependent on that. Again, that's what I'm talking about. Just right there.

You just you just labeled me as dependent. You labeled me as not taking care of my household and sassy. Like that's the whole idea of anything like it's been masculine. Anything that many things like oh, I'm supposed to be this and the third.

It's not being done to your bitch when they have females out here doing more than men are doing. And then, and when I do that, like I can say me, I don't do it for my damn. So I'm not depending on quite independent. I'm sassy, but I take care of my household.

So then does that make me masculine? No, that makes me a bitch or somebody that doesn't know her role or her place. That's the problem. That's the whole concept that goes around masculinity, like, and that's toxic masculinity because it's just it creates toxic relationships between men and women.

So I have a question. So do you reject leadership in a relationship? Not necessarily. So I don't feel like it is.

I'm not going to say necessary. I don't feel like it has to happen all the time, like a male would feel like I don't have a problem with being in a relationship and us being equal because I think that's the whole concept anyway, like for us to compliment one another, not for you to take care of me or me to take care of you and the I don't I don't think it a relationship that my man has to come in and take care of me financially only. And then I have to take care of him everywhere else. Like, I think I like an equal relationship.

Well, people understand that I'm here to better you and you're here to better me. Not I'm here to take care of you and you here to pay the bills. Yeah, I'd be like, don't you think the equal relationship or equal relationship would have to be like even responsibility? No, like, so what would be your like, you know, I'm kind of confused.

Clearly. Why? You're confused. You can't fathom what I'm saying.

I'm trying to understand it better. It's not that I'm not. Because your whole concept is I'm strong. I have to take care of my household.

And by take care of it, I mean financially. So, no, not financially, but a structure of a leadership organization. It's just not right because your wife can't be your wife is not the structural one or the organized one when and technically in actuality men feel like that's what they're doing and they're not their wives are doing all of that. They feel like, oh, well, if it wasn't for my great leadership, she wouldn't have the ability to be organized and run this household like it should be ran because of my leadership and me making sure she's doing the right thing.

That's why we succeed. Negative, sir. Negative. So completely negative.

So why do people succeed in relationships? No, that's not the hell I just said. I'm trying to hold another realm. We were talking about where it's all about.

We're not that wasn't even a relationship situation. I have air quotes here saying that you provide structure. You provide organization. You provide stability.

And in other words, So you find out they're not going to provide those things. And if I'm not saying it, they want to be there. I'm not saying it's a moment doesn't provide those things. I had the ability to provide those things.

However, I do feel like it's my responsibility. That is a man. You do you find something wrong with that? Yes.

That's the whole idea of talking to. Okay. Okay. You fit right into your you are the ideal.

For this. Well, I mean, it's not your fault. It's not your fault. Like I said, it's a perpetuated situation.

Like the whole ideology of it is you have to be strong. You have to be the man. You have to all the tricks that embody a man. This is what you have to be.

And the male figure in your life, even or even your mother. They teach you this as a child. Oh, if you hurt yourself, don't cry bucket it like get up and keep it moving. When you get in a relationship, make sure you take care of your girl.

Make sure you you know, with your go out, you have to get the bill. When you're in relationship, you make sure you go to work cheating. Don't you worry about cleaning the house and she's supposed to do that. That's her rule.

So, like I said, it's not your fault. It's something that's taught. So it would have to be something that men unlearn and it's not being taught for. It's no longer be in existence and that's not going to happen.

Somebody doing society, places, these are men and women. They're like, predominantly based on like what was it in the 20s where it was a, it was designated that women don't quote me on dates. I'm horrible with history dates, but like when the women had to be like, your job, you couldn't get a job outside of the home. This is when things definitely like start, when society is created was already jacks.

But anyways, so like I'm a man. I go out and I can make money. You're a woman. You're a places in the home.

So guess what? You stay home and you clean and you take care of the children that I say that we have to have. And you're not allowed to go out and get a job and make the same money that I make because then you might want to think for yourself. You might want to buy that for yourself.

And we can't have that. I think, but you know, what I'm saying, like even like with toxic masculinity, and we're talking about like rape culture in the B2 movement, I feel like that's only reserved for black men, like who would serve themselves and become self efficient. And that's not it because white men are being accused in the B2 movement. Now, you're going to get prosecution.

That's because of the racist platform that we have now that can be a whole other conversation, but that it's not, it wasn't created for black men. It was, it was, it was created for women to be able to say, Hey, yeah, it wasn't the whole B2 movement supposed to be an empowerment situation. So it's hard for a woman to go and say, Hey, guess what? I've been raised because nine times out of 10, the cop that you have to go and tell this to is a man.

And as we discussed, men don't necessarily think women get like, or being raped and that it's affecting them in the way that it does. So why would I go out of my way to report a man to another man who already doesn't believe me or think that I'm telling the truth or think that I actually am affected in the way that I'm saying that I am by this, because he feels he also feels like I have the right to that. Like I'm the man. You're the woman.

This is what you are here for. So if I wanted, I can have it. And what that's why it's not, it's not just a black thing. I don't think that's fair.

I don't think that's fair to see. The part about the man and I just, it just seems to me to have. That's, that's just what it is. I don't think that's fair to see.

Let's, let's see show in a relationship when a man goes out and he works so very hard at his job. And his wife also goes out and works so very hard. It's probably not as hard as him though because she's a woman. She goes out, she comes home.

She not, he comes out when a man comes home. He typically gets to take his shoes off and wait for that good old wife to give him his dinner. But she has to come home. And if there's children, she has to take care of them, help them with their homework, clean the house, make dinner for that man that, you know, is really tired from his very hard job.

And then also later, if he wants to have sex with her, do that as well. And if she doesn't, it's a problem. So tell me how men don't believe that that's theirs. Or that's something that a woman has to do because anytime when guys talk about females, they be like, Oh, yeah, she claimed that she was tired or she claimed that she was this.

Like that's why our relationship didn't work. Like she wasn't really matching my energy, but it was time for us to get it in. I don't think that's, I don't think that's accurate on most relationships. I mean, I really don't.

And the next thing is like, what is this? Like you don't hear me talk about like toxic femininity because it was like, we don't think you have a feminine characteristics or poisonous. Like, we don't trip off feminine characteristics. But I may create a way feminine characteristics.

What? Yeah, just decided to create it. It wasn't created by a woman. Okay.

Okay. So, so let's get away from typical Western society standards. And let's go back into history. Like, let's go back to like the pyramids and everything else.

And before we were brought over here, we were African things like that. You don't think those women were feminine in Africa, but have feminine characteristics. This is the thing. Okay.

The thing is you can't go back to anything else because your reference point is what you know for society now. So yeah, regardless of what you have to say. Okay. Okay.

You're going to you're going to base what your knowledge base comes from this. Let's go to this society now. You think men, you don't think women, they have feminine characteristics or you don't think men are going to reject them in the characteristics of women. Do they win?

Me and typically will do that. Hello. Hello. Hello.

I can't hear you, piano. But I just don't think I just don't think men would reject feminine characteristics from women. Well, well, well, welcome back, you know. Hey, how's your day going?

Great. How are you? Can't complain too much. No, we're gonna talk about toxic masculinity.

So, like every show I like to start with definitions, toxic masculinity refers to the stereotypically masculine gender role that restrict the kind of emotions allowed for boys and men to express and include. Social expectations that men seek to be dominant. Now, how do you feel about that? I feel like the definition is accurate.

Well, give me your feelings about toxic masculinity. Like, do you feel like, what do you feel like, what's an example of toxic masculinity to you? Just like the definition says, I mean, society puts, I guess, like parameters on how boys should act, how men should act, how women should act. So, due to these gender roles being created, it definitely, I feel like, can there's relationships between men and women and it changes the way people act in society, being that if a boy gets hurt, he's not supposed to cry, he's supposed to suck it up.

And then all that does and has him internalized feelings. And then, like it said, most time men only show anger and like I just cause problems between men and women. So, you think men can only show anger or talk to only show anger? Yeah, that's the only emotion that in many cases men are allowed to show.

Like, if you show anything other than that, then you're considered feminine and a bitch or a sissy, like, that's usually the thing that they're called. So then why would I show that I'm hurt by this? Or I'm upset by that if I could just show that I'm angry about everything and it seems to be fine. Do you feel like there's just like men just showing a strength?

Just because you showed, no, I think strength is being able to express all of your emotions and be like one with your sexuality knowing that you're not a sissy, that you're not a bitch, because you're sad about something and you cry. And that's fine. That doesn't make you any less of a man because your feelings were heard about something or you're upset about something and you feel like you need to cry. That doesn't make you any less strong.

So you don't feel like, so you don't feel like men have women should have like different roles and relationships or just in society at all. Although men have to speak out that's what women do. Women have it too, but make care of it. What do you think that is?

What do they have to do with Tyres? I feel like they have to do with how things are perceived as I mean, I mean men seem to be more, the role is more the protective provider. Because that's your talk. That's what you're taught.

And I'm not saying. Okay. You're just going to provide that's a problem. But is that just nature though?

What was that? I'm sorry. Somebody is trying again. Thank you.

But is it just nature? I mean, naturally supposed to be provided protectors as we have more testosterone than women. I can't agree with that. So, yeah, you can be the protector and the provider, but that should be your only role and that shouldn't you shouldn't feel like that's the only thing you can do in a relationship.

And then therefore, because I don't have testosterone, I have to do everything else that's not perceived to be protecting or providing. Like what? Like the what the cooking usually the woman supposed to do the cooking, the cleaning, the raising of the children, everything else other than you taking out the trash mowing the lawn going to work. But nowadays I have to also go to work, but then I also have to do everything around the house cater to you and still want to lay down and have sex at the end of the day.

And then it's a problem when all these things don't happen. So yeah, I find that problematic. Well, okay. So, but you know, my thing about like times of masculinity is I got to tell you before, like even with like rape culture and certain things like a mutual movement after like that's only reserved for like black men, like a black man to the circumstances.

And then it's like, oh, that's how the masculinity are we true to the show ourselves beyond what society believes that we are the best as a masculinity. And I don't agree with that. Because this this term is not based on race. It's totally based on gender.

So you could be, you could be white, black, green, and the problem still exists because society has taught men and women that they have different places in the way society works in a relationship. So whether you're black, it's not relevant in this situation and it doesn't make you you only have toxic masculinity due to you being black or then if a white man does it's not. And then the whole concept of the alpha male and all that, because it's not like the alpha white male alpha black male is the alpha male because there's a certain criteria of what they have this male does. It's not like, oh, he's black.

That's why this is what created the toxic masculinity. No, because initially when toxic masculinity created wasn't like based on black men. It was created by who was created by? It was created by a man, a white man.

Okay. What did that prove? Well, just like, I just feel like, you know, people are more comfortable with the alpha white man doing the alpha black man, like they're just even in a white place after like people like, like if you choose to search yourself in a corporate America or just any type of job in America, and you say, okay, I'm going to serve myself and be a masculine black man. That's a problem for people.

People get uncomfortable about it. And it's not a matter of you being a masculine black man. It's that now that part has to do with race. Okay.

It doesn't have to do with the fact that you're a man and you're asserting yourself. It has to do with the racism in the society as of now. So being that it's a racist situation, anything you do is going to be perceived differently than what a white man does. You can be timid and calm and it's still going to be like, oh, is he plotting against us?

It's always going to be something found wrong with what a black man does. Yes, but the whole concept of toxic masculinity or masculinity in general being a problem in society has nothing to do with you being a black man and being masculine. And it's not even a matter of just being masculine. It's the, it's the things that come from it that this is why the whole concept came about.

It has nothing to do with all your masculine. It's what happens after or what doesn't happen due to these gender roles. Come on. I do think that the suspect is toxic community.

No. Why? Because they're isn't. Okay.

That just is it. Why do I think it is? Why do I think what is? Because the whole concept didn't come from a female being the initial problem and it didn't come from when society created the whole gender role situation.

It came from this is what a man is. And then everything else is not mainly. So how do I then become toxic because I'm so called what makes me toxic not following the gender role that I have. What if I say just just when you're.

What's that? I was please please please please please. Please. I was my friend here.

She was stating that many times women are expected to be extra feminine and extra emotional. And then when you're not, you're perceived to be a bitch or not. Not being in your place. Like if, if like me and Jen, I'm not your typical female.

So I'm very independent and I have no problem with that guys have a problem with that. And then I'm not the one that's going to be like running behind a dude. I'm not about to be in a relationship in which a guy feels like he gets to come home from work and kick his feet off and wait for me to make him dinner or clean all of the house and then he's just watching me clean it. Like that's not how that's not going to work for me.

Like if I'm in a relationship, I want my relationship to be 50 50 you cook. I cook you clean. I clean. I take out the trash and take out the trash.

Whatever so called gender roles that society has put upon us. I don't want my relationship to follow that stereo like that's their type of all like I want it to be different from what society has told me my relationship to be based on gender roles. Okay, so you think. Okay, so my thing is this though like if you're going to say that you don't let you know you're not the typical female that's you just being into stereotype right there.

Like nobody's calling you guys are basically because you're independent or you want to take care of yourself. Nobody's doing that at all. That's outrageous. You're maybe you think that that's that's a that's a that's a that's not already just an understatement.

That is definitely what happens. Okay, somebody said, oh, well, you know what, I'm gonna let you pay your bills. This is this. I'm gonna let you pay your bills.

I'm gonna let you do all this for yourself. That's that's not the wrong thing. Like I don't get that somebody don't call your business. You should like paying your own bills and have your own house.

It's not a matter. It's not a matter of me paying my own bills. Most of the dudes nowadays ain't gonna have a problem with me paying my own bills because what would you be upset that I'm going to sell out my own money. So, so my thing is, so at what point does it get to where people are calling you a bitch or holding it coming out to me because this is the thing if you if you're independent and you're doing things for yourself and then you talk and you start talking to a guy and you don't ask him for assistance or you don't show that you need him.

Then it's a problem. It's a definite problem because they're like, well, well, you don't act like you want me here. You know, like, so what do you want me to do act like a dam's law and distress, but I'm not. I'm very, I'm very capable of taking care of myself.

The thing guys don't seem to understand nowadays is it's not it's not back then I'm allowed to work now and nine times out of 10 I have to work to be able to pay bills even in a relationship to be able to assist my mates. I have to make this money. So if I'm not falling on the ground and expecting you to pick me up, then I think they mentioned start understanding that that's what society is now you need unless you have the greatest job ever you've nine times out of 10 need to help from your spouse to make stuff like comfortable for both of you. And when you're not in that in a sense of like, Oh, I need you so much.

I need you to do this. I need you to do that. I'm very submissive to everything you say. I don't have an opinion.

I'm just you in the woman form. Then guys do have a problem with that. But you know what? But you know what?

That works. So missing the missile is in a bad term. If you read the definition of submissive, it is in the context of what it really is. It is a bad term.

I'm not going to be submissive. And if that makes me a bitch or whatever else guys want to say, then that's me and that's who I'm going to be. Hmm. Okay.

Because you're on his shoe. So yeah. So being self-sufficient, what I was saying was being self-sufficient, that makes you a bitch and mini guys. I don't I'm like, I can confirm or deny that because I don't know your experiences like you say.

I'm very limited in those aspects. But so do you consider yourself to be a black feminist or a black feminist? I don't fall into no feminist bull crap because feminism was created for like me and me and another for that this conversation like they're hella complacent. So it was more they wanted our help to bolster what they wanted and once they got what they wanted, they no longer wanted to continue achieving the things that they that needed to happen for women.

But I don't put myself in categories. I just am self-sufficient and I do what I want because I can. Okay. Okay.

Okay. There's a lot of whispering. Go. I have a friend here.

Does she want to do? No. Okay. She does.

Okay. So I just want to add in regards to the being submissive. I don't think there's anything wrong with being submissive. Wait, wait, wait.

I don't know you. Oh, yeah. Oh, I thought I was my name is Chanel. Okay.

Nice to meet you, Chanel. Now, what were you saying? I think that's connections going again. For some reason.

Yeah. I don't know what's going on with that. Hello? Yeah.

Well, the connection is going again. So the connection is going to get, try to get on back. See if like a friend loves to tell me and something that she was saying. And I think it was going to be real good.

But just want to add that I just feel like when we talk about toxic masculinity, certainly we have to be very careful of. I think that we as Black people should come together rather than seeing it being a man thing or one thing. For me, it's erm, race thing. It's a Black thing.

I don't find anything wrong with women. I serve themselves. I'm being self-sufficient. Hopefully women don't find a problem with that.

And just want to add some things. I feel like when we were talking about race, I think he had a brother of a very good partner. She wasn't a feminist because most of the time, you know, I think the white power structure brought them in for the agenda, which was to help them get voting rights, except in case they didn't have already, that they are counterparts were keeping them from doing back in the day. Also, I just want to say this too.

You know, I was talking about toxic femininity. I think the reason why you don't hear about me and speaking about toxic femininity is because we don't think that the problem with showcasing your family characteristics. We don't think there's partisanists. We think that you should display those characteristics and that you should continue to showcase those things.

But the concept is also if you choose to assert yourself in a system, and you are a Black man, you are a threat. If you are a Black woman claiming to be a feminist, you are an ally of white supremacy because other races are women. They don't vote for their gender. They vote for their race.

And I think Black women as a whole need to become better at that. But they convince Black women, most Black women, that you should go against your men when they don't. Because in a scope of things, Black male leadership, Black male artists and poisons to white supremacy. I think that we should all myself on both sides, and I think that we will come out pretty good.

I think that we're going to be unable to get you on the back. So I just want to thank all the time and I thank all the time and we can do even more things next time around. My next show I was playing on doing truth and friends broadcast. It was going to be me, some of my coworkers, we were going to make the outfield.

And I was going to have Keanu join us as well. I just want to thank you guys for tuning in. And remember, the truth is powerful. Hello?

Hello? Yeah, Mr. D. Sean.

How you going? All right. We got Dre on the line too. Dre.

So what's up? How you feeling? I'm feeling good. How much?

Can I complain? Wait no, one more. I was the Sean. Hi, Dre.

We need you. Well, you know what? Let's go ahead and get started. We're going to hold this show up.

If you come in, she comes in and she don't. But tonight's episode is a very special episode. I can say that it would be a very special episode. I'm calling truth to friends.

I got my friends with me. I have to do so ourselves. Hello, everyone. My name is Eshan.

And I'm Adrian, aka Dre. Okay. So first time people don't talk about tonight is the cash 69 arrest to cash 69. He's a rapper based out of New York.

He was recently arrested on federal charges, a racketeering, robbery, and drug trafficking. Some people refer to that as a Rico. Now, my number one question is to cash me the black extremely half of blood numbers in New York. Why do y'all think they allowed him to continue his foolishness without any type of reprimand?

They was making money off of him. That's something. That's something. He was a cash cow.

What did you say he was getting started? Uh, in some way, yeah. But he was still starting to know it. And so what's the name?

Um, um. So he just wants to be down. Yeah. But you know, I feel like, yeah, yeah, but you know, but you know, not like it is though, like, you know, people like, you know, um, Keanu, you know, Keanu.

You know, nothing is like, um, people like white boy Rick, um, like white guy that's like rich, he was like a crib in LA. It just, it just bothers my mind that, you know, they make a black heart or commit a crime with some black people and they try to be down. But then once they get into those interrogation room, they start snitching. You know, so my next question is why do black people turn and white people around them?

You know, I'm not going to pass my agent on the press. Sometimes I feel it's just access. Access? That's just what exactly?

Well, I look at it like this. If I can have somebody represent me that can give me into some places that I normally can't because of my skin coat. I suppose it won't come from. And I'll use those like people, you know, take advantage of those situations.

But a lot of times I don't realize I'm bad at me, turn it out because attention is getting brought to them. I mean, the thing with 69 was the hip hop police in New York were been looking at because he claimed his gang activity that he was easy mark. They went out there and like they went after a little chimp. They went after my camera.

They were like, I'm trying to do a fabulous with the street fam and all those things. But he was just too stupid to know it. And his quote, unquote, O.G. is big homies was just busy trying to grab all the cash they can.

And like I said, he got too big, too fast about too much attention to him. But they basically use it for access. So, Trey, how do you feel about the white people, people like that for a while? I mean, I feel the same way.

Just like the Sean said, it's access to things that we typically don't have access to. So do you have that we should have a vent process where we allow people in our personal and professional spaces that are different races. We need a vent process even if they are same way. Just because it was right.

I was just saying if you don't know these people, you're going to be on the old hand sentence. That's the answer. You know what I'm trusting about? So I get them all.

That's true. That's very true. I can definitely bounce for that. But yeah.

So I'm not because I'm going to be the Jill Scott's Mike Blojan. Now, like most men, I was like, oh, she's doing a good job with them. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

She can get the dignity with the dignity. Yeah, Jill. I thought about something too though. First I want to get you guys on.

What are you guys doing? I'm being honest with you. I'm just like that. If you have her quan raw, I don't know what to tell you.

You know, she was actually a little upset about that. I mean, she was saying that the video was old and I guess not really said about her actions, but the way that it was shown and, you know, see a lot of guys were sitting in her DMs and she was just not appreciative that at all. Mm. Cause you know, I thought about something.

I was like, oh, yeah, Jill Scott is a mother. Yes. You know what I'm saying? So when a kid goes to school, I think a kid was like, man, a kid is old.

Yeah, definitely a school age child, you know, who's old enough to, you know, get backlands from it. Yeah. So he's the fence against that. So I was thinking about it and I was just like, what are the ramifications of that?

You know what I'm saying? She is a mother. I mean, but that's the thing about it. You know, she is a mother.

She was innocent first. She was an author. So it's like they come with becoming a celebrity child. You become a target.

It's not like you brought it to this world intentionally wanted to become their book. You are a child on a celebrity. It comes with stakes as well as privilege. So I mean, you just got to suck that up.

Now, if she want to be one of those people, okay, since I have a child, okay, I forget how to spot like completely. That's fine. So he's been a fit from the post stage performances and I help him. She put out.

I mean, he's a child with it. Hey, kids, you grew up in the metro area. You know how we do as kids, even if your parents not famous. Yeah.

We rip each other over the smallest names. Yeah, but that's just giving kids more ammunition. Like you said, he got to suck it up. I'm like, I'm going to suck it up.

You know what I'm saying? You're not saying like you're just like, I just don't give kids even more ammunition. You know what I'm saying? Also, too.

I mean, I would add in, even though, you know, in this world full of technology and all of these children have cell phones and this kind of thing. Children at age record really shouldn't even have access to that. We just don't be able to see that, guys? Yeah, because he got YouTube.

He actually had YouTube channel. You know, he has a product of guys on it. And I told him he can never put his picture up there because you know they got like petalsiles and I'll touch all the riddles out there on the internet, but he does have a YouTube channel. Okay.

Well, I know my son, they say his YouTube channel Instagram put all that type of stuff, but he had a sense. I mean, I'm sure he was 13 and a lot of those weapons I'm saying, the guideline, okay, make sure you shout 13 years old all the way back to me that I found. And like I said, they always around it. So I mean, I'm sure he could see his class makes the seed and stuff like that.

But that you said the video was old. It's been out there. It's just happened to resurface. I'm sure his mom, the type of woman she portrays herself, I'm sure his mom been explained to him what she do for a living, how she do out of shows and things like that.

I mean, he has, I mean, I'm trying to be messy, but he has other things that it's like people who are like, you know, you know, deal then do what two husbands have plus this father. So I'm sure he doesn't see something worse than me. Yeah. Yeah.

So you guys were going to take a brief, brief, brief animation. Then we're going to come right back because it was like I'm trying to get a Keanu on the line. She says she has a trouble logging in or whatever. I'm going to shoot it back to y'all again and we're going to come back and I'm going to talk about this black women's selling thing and I'm going to need all hands on deck.

So you're about to take a brief animation. I'll meet y'all right back. Okay.