Toxic Polarization, Civil War & Local Conversation

Kristi Kendall, an accomplished television producer and filmmaker, and Ben Klutsey, Director of the Program on Pluralism and Civil Exchange at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, joined the show to discuss their new documentary film, Undivide Us. The film brings together people from diverse backgrounds to discuss highly contentious topics like gun control, abortion, and immigration, and dives into the pressing concerns of America's current political culture, exploring the risks of national division and the specter of civil unrest.Kristi and Ben stress the significance of local community engagement, advocating for a decentralized approach to defusing toxic polarization. They challenge media narratives that present black-and-white stereotypes as representing average Americans across the political spectrum and highlight the importance of nuance and perspective. Classical liberal values of mutual respect and curiosity can pave the way for a more united America if we take them seriously._____________________________________Learn more about Undivide Us: https://undivideusmovie.comProgram on Pluralism and Civil Exchange: https://www.mercatus.org/tags/pluralism-and-civil-exchange_____________________________________Outline:[0:00] Reasons to be optimistic about national unity[9:26] What’s going on inside newsrooms?[12:22] Making a movie about focus groups[18:38] The world of nuance in a simple question[22:56] Surprising perspectives on difficult issues[32:55] You can only have real conversations in person[37:42] The Pareto principle of online discourse[42:55] How do you deal with the instinct to radicalize?[51:51] Why have race relations broken down?[58:58] What is “liberalism” and why does it matter?[1:02:50] Changing opinions about people, not policy[1:08:32] Why are people rejecting an “American” identity?[1:18:44] Multi-ethnic democracy is a brand new experiment[1:23:13] People don’t want to bring conflict into their homes[1:31:43] Watch out for conversational terrorists[1:37:34] Keep the rules few, simple, and local[1:45:32] The need for marriage counseling in politics[1:48:42] How to watch “Undivide Us”_____________________________________Watch the video version on YouTube: https://youtu.be/xiDydADwz9kMake a tax-deductible donation to Dad Saves America: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://secure.anedot.com/emergent-order-foundation/dad-website?⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.dadsavesamerica.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠_____________________________________Dad Saves America is a channel dedicated to celebrating heroic fatherhood while teaching the next generation of fathers strategies they can utilize in parenting their children. We believe strong children come from a strong family. We’ve had many experts in the studio, including Jonathan Haidt, Dr. Drew Pinsky, Troy Kotsur, John Mackey, Ben Askren, and Adam Carolla. Get full access to Dad Saves America at www.dadsavesamerica.com/subscribe