EPISODE · Dec 3, 2025 · 59 MIN
TP464 – The AI Loop Problem (Where Humans Still Matter Most)
from touch point podcast · host touch point media
In this episode, hosts Chris Boyer and Reed Smith explore how health systems can make smarter decisions about Human In The Loop and Human Out Of The Loop models, and why these choices will define trust, safety, and experience in the coming years. What HITL and HOOTL actually mean How healthcare is applying these frameworks Why governance is the missing layer Where humans must remain as the final authority Chris then sits down with Carrie Liken, CEO and founder of Sotto Strategies and a leading voice in healthcare search and AI driven consumer behavior. She offers a grounded perspective on how agentic AI, new browsing models, and health system data strategy are reshaping digital engagement. Mentions From the Show: Carrie Liken on LinkedIn Carrie Liken on SubStack Reed Smith on LinkedIn Chris Boyer on LinkedIn Chris Boyer website Chris Boyer on BlueSky Reed Smith on BlueSky Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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