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Jo Ellis, a transgender Black Hawk pilot with 15 years of U.S. military service, addresses the hate and threats she received online after she was wrongfully accused of flying the helicopter in the fatal DC plane crash. This comes after President Trump blamed Democrats and DEI policies for the crash that killed 67 people on board a commercial flight and Black Hawk helicopter. Then, Florida Republican Congressman Byron Donalds joins Smerconish to discuss the latest DOJ firings and trade wars with America's largest trading partners. Finally, Derrick Darby, a Rutgers University professor who studies the intersection of hip-hop and political philosophy, explains how money, power, and influence led to Trump's comeback. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Jo Ellis, a transgender Black Hawk pilot with 15 years of U.S. military service, addresses the hate and threats she received online after she was wrongfully accused of flying the helicopter in the fatal DC plane crash. This comes after President...

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