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EPISODE · Feb 3, 2026 · 52 MIN

Transforming the Shame Triangle with Jessica Fern & David Cooley

from The Human Beauty Movement Podcast · host The Human Beauty Movement

In this episode of The Human Beauty Movement Podcast, Jessica Fern and David Cooley unpack the transformative power of understanding and working through shame, revealing how it can quietly undermine our relationships and sense of self. Guided by Jennifer Norman, the conversation explores the "shame triangle"—an internal pattern of critic, victim, and escaper—and offers hope, practical tools, and new language for transforming shame into self-love and deeper connection. Listeners are invited to reconsider shame not as a flaw, but as a signal pointing to healing, authenticity, and richer connection with themselves and others.This podcast episode is sponsored by*:Humanist Beauty - Beauty for your skin & soul, Humanist Beauty is clean, conscious, and cruelty-free. Learn more here → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://humanistbeauty.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ora - Ora is redefining health with Performance-Enhancing Plants™ — clean, science-backed supplements for real results you can feel. From protein to creatine and probiotics, all in 99% plastic-free packaging, because planet health matters too. Learn more here → ⁠https://oraorganic.pxf.io/thehbm⁠Headspace - Headspace has one mission: to improve the health and happiness of the world through meditation, sleep, stress, and mindfulness. We're excited to partner with you! Learn more here → ⁠https://headspace.pxf.io/thehbm⁠Blueland - Blueland sells eco-friendly cleaning essentials that have helped divert 1+ billion single-use plastic bottles from landfills & oceans. Products are tablet or powder based, designed to be mixed with tap water or used directly - saving money & space. Learn more here → ⁠https://blueland.sjv.io/thehbm⁠*The Human Beauty Movement may earn commissions from your support Guest Links:Website: https://www.theazuriteway.com 8 week online course guiding you through the Shame Triangle work: https://the-azurite-way.mykajabi.com/transforming-the-shame-triangle-feb-2026https://www.jessicafern.com/https://www.restorativerelationship.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-fern-cooley/https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-cooley-664937127/The Human Beauty Movement Links:Official Website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thehumanbeautymovement.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Community ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pinterest ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.pinterest.com/thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-human-beauty-movement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Jennifer Norman Links:Lnk.Bio ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lnk.bio/iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pinterest ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.pinterest.com/iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X/Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠

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In this episode of The Human Beauty Movement Podcast, Jessica Fern and David Cooley unpack the transformative power of understanding and working through shame, revealing how it can quietly undermine our relationships and sense of self. Guided by Jennifer Norman, the conversation explores the "shame triangle"—an internal pattern of critic, victim, and escaper—and offers hope, practical tools, and new language for transforming shame into self-love and deeper connection. Listeners are invited to reconsider shame not as a flaw, but as a signal pointing to healing, authenticity, and richer connection with themselves and others.This podcast episode is sponsored by*:Humanist Beauty - Beauty for your skin & soul, Humanist Beauty is clean, conscious, and cruelty-free. Learn more here → ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://humanistbeauty.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ora - Ora is redefining health with Performance-Enhancing Plants™ — clean, science-backed supplements for real results you can feel. From protein to creatine and probiotics, all in 99% plastic-free packaging, because planet health matters too. Learn more here → ⁠https://oraorganic.pxf.io/thehbm⁠Headspace - Headspace has one mission: to improve the health and happiness of the world through meditation, sleep, stress, and mindfulness. We're excited to partner with you! Learn more here → ⁠https://headspace.pxf.io/thehbm⁠Blueland - Blueland sells eco-friendly cleaning essentials that have helped divert 1+ billion single-use plastic bottles from landfills & oceans. Products are tablet or powder based, designed to be mixed with tap water or used directly - saving money & space. Learn more here → ⁠https://blueland.sjv.io/thehbm⁠*The Human Beauty Movement may earn commissions from your support Guest Links:Website: https://www.theazuriteway.com 8 week online course guiding you through the Shame Triangle work: https://the-azurite-way.mykajabi.com/transforming-the-shame-triangle-feb-2026https://www.jessicafern.com/https://www.restorativerelationship.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-fern-cooley/https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-cooley-664937127/The Human Beauty Movement Links:Official Website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thehumanbeautymovement.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Community ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pinterest ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.pinterest.com/thehumanbeautymovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-human-beauty-movement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Jennifer Norman Links:Lnk.Bio ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lnk.bio/iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pinterest ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.pinterest.com/iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X/Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/iamjennnorman⁠⁠⁠⁠

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