Translating the Impossible: Ursula Phillips on Ice by Jacek Dukaj

https://substack.com/@thebigbookprojectIn this episode of The Big Book Project, Lori Feathers is joined by translator Ursula Phillips to discuss her extraordinary translation of Ice, the monumental, genre-defying novel by Polish author Jacek Dukaj.Clocking in at nearly 1,200 pages, Ice is both an alternate-history epic and a philosophical meditation on truth, language, power, and perception. Phillips guides us through the novel’s vast imaginative scope—from its reimagining of the Russian Empire in the early 20th century, and its complex political, religious, and commercial entanglements in a world frozen by ice, to the deeply personal story of its hero, the Polish mathematician Benedykt Gierosławski, who travels to Siberia in search of his exiled father. Along the way, Phillips offers insight into the intellectual and technical challenges of translating such a singular work.This conversation moves fluidly between plot, prose, and process, exploring how Ice engages with 19th-century novelistic traditions while pushing the boundaries of science fiction, historical fiction, and metaphysical inquiry. Phillips also reflects on narrative voice, linguistic instability, and the role of the translator as both craftsman and interpreter.What We Discuss in This EpisodeAn overview of Ice’s alternate-history premise and frozen world after the ImpactThe novel’s protagonist, Benedykt Gierosławski, and his search for his exiled father, who has become a cult figure in the Land of WinterPolitical theories, religious movements, and commercial interests shaped by the IceThe historical and speculative roles that the Russian Empire and the Trans-Siberian Railway serve in the novel’s plot.The unusual shifts in narrative voice and perspective and how this is executed. The translator’s postscript and the philosophical problems of language and meaningThe technical and conceptual challenges of translating a 1,200-page novelDukaj’s lush, sensory languageConnections to Kafka, Dostoevsky, and the 19th-century “big novel” traditionRecommendations on other Polish literature for readers to exploreNotable MomentLori reads a striking passage describing Benedykt’s first experience wearing frosto-glaze glasses—a scene that transforms the world into a riot of color and movement, highlighting the novel’s extraordinary visual imagination and the precision of Phillips’s translation.About the GuestUrsula Phillips is an acclaimed literary translator specializing in Polish literature. Her translation of Ice has been widely praised for preserving the novel’s philosophical depth, linguistic complexity, and stylistic ambition.About the BookIce by Jacek Dukaj is an alternate-history novel set in a world reshaped by a mysterious climate-altering event. Blending science fiction, political theory, metaphysics, and historical fiction, the novel interrogates how truth, logic, and power shift under radically altered conditions.Listener TipIce includes a Glossary and Dramatis Personae to help readers navigate its neologisms and cast of characters.Links and Resources:📚 The Big Book Project on Substack🎙️ Follow The Big Book Project on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube➡️ Follow on Instagram