Traversing the fourth dimension

EPISODE · Feb 8, 2023 · 1H 22M

Traversing the fourth dimension

from Many Minds

Not sure about you, but it seems like I spend most of my time in the future. We're told to live in the present, of course—and I try. But at any opportunity my mind just races ahead, like an eager puppy. I'm planning my next meal, dwelling on that looming deadline, imagining the possibilities that lie ahead. In one sense, all this time spent puttering around tomorrow-land is kind of regrettable. But in another sense it's really quite extraordinary. When we think ahead, when we cast our thoughts into the future, we're exercising an ability that some consider uniquely human.  My guest today is Dr. Adam Bulley. Adam is a psychologist and Postdoctoral Fellow affiliated with the University of Sydney and Harvard. Along with his co-authors Thomas Suddendorf & Jonathan Redshaw, Adam recently published a book titled, The Invention of Tomorrow: A Natural History of Foresight. In this conversation, Adam and I talk about two constructs central to the book—"mental time travel" and foresight. We discuss how these constructs relate to memory and to imagination. We dig into the question of whether our abilities to think ahead are really uniquely human. We review the archeological evidence for the emergence of foresight in our species' evolution. And we also touch on—among other topics and tidbits— hoarding behavior in squirrels, tool use in chimpanzees, the Bischof-Köhler hypothesis, the control of fire, Incan quipus, hand axes, and longtermism. Foresight is one of those especially tentacly topics. It connects to so many different other abilities and to so many questions about minds, culture, evolution. Both in the book and here in this conversation, Adam proves to be quite a skilled guide to all these connections.  There's also something else notable about Adam: he's an alum of the Diverse Intelligences Summer Institute (DISI). In fact, he was a participant in the first iteration of the program, back in 2018. So if you too aspire to do cool research, write cool books, and be interviewed on the coolest podcasts around, you might consider applying. Just note that review of applications begins soon: Feb 13. More info at: disi.org  Alright, friends, on to my chat with Adam Bulley. Enjoy!    A transcript of this episode is available here!    Notes and links 3:30 – A paper comparing performance on the "forked tube task" in human children and great apes. 6:30 – A now-classic article by Dr. Suddendorf and Michael Corballis on "mental time travel" and the evolution of foresight. 13:00 – An article by Dr. Suddendorf directly comparing memory and foresight. Another take on the same question. 22:00 – A recent paper by Johannes Mahr on the functions of episodic memory.  27:00 – A recent review article on the notion of "cognitive offloading." The study by Adam and colleagues looking at the development of cognitive offloading in young children.   32:00 – For an earlier discussion of animal caching behavior, see our episode with Dr. Nicky Clayton. 35:00 – An examination of the Bischof–Köhler hypothesis in rhesus monkeys. 40:00 – A recent chapter by Adam and Dr. Redshaw reviewing the evidence for future thinking in animals.  41:00 – For a brief discussion of delayed gratification in cephalopods, see our episode with Dr. Alex Schnell. See also a recent research paper on the question in fish, and a recent paper by Adam and colleagues looking at the psychology of delayed rewards in humans.  45:00 – For an extended foray into (allegedly) uniquely human traits—aka "human autapomorphies" or "human uniquals"—see our earlier essay on the topic.  47:30 – The exchange in Trends in Cognitive Sciences between Dr. Suddendorf and Dr. Corballis on the question of foresight in animals.  49:30 – A book by Richard Wrangham on the role of fire and cooking in human evolution. A more recent article by Dr. Wrangham on the same topic. 54:00 – An episode of the Tides of History podcast about Ötzi the Iceman. 59:00 – For our earlier discussion of bags with Dr. Michelle Langley, see here.   1:03:00 – A book on the Incan quipus. 1:13:00 – The classic treatment of "displacement" in human language, by Charles Hockett, is here. 1:18:00 – Recent books on long term future thinking include What We Owe the Future, The Good Ancestor, Longpath, and others.   Dr. Bulley recommends: The Gap, by Thomas Suddendorf The Optimism Bias, by Tali Sharot Know Thyself, by Stephen Fleming You can read more about Adam's work on his website and follow him on Twitter.   Many Minds is a project of the Diverse Intelligences Summer Institute (DISI) (https://disi.org), which is made possible by a generous grant from the Templeton World Charity Foundation to UCLA. It is hosted and produced by Kensy Cooperrider, with help from Assistant Producer Urte Laukaityte and with creative support from DISI Directors Erica Cartmill and Jacob Foster. Our artwork is by Ben Oldroyd (https://www.mayhilldesigns.co.uk/). Our transcripts are created by Sarah Dopierala (https://sarahdopierala.wordpress.com/). You can subscribe to Many Minds on Apple, Stitcher, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Google Play, or wherever you like to listen to podcasts.  **You can now subscribe to the Many Minds newsletter here!** We welcome your comments, questions, and suggestions. Feel free to email us at: [email protected].  For updates about the show, visit our website (https://disi.org/manyminds/), or follow us on Twitter: @ManyMindsPod.

NOW PLAYING

Traversing the fourth dimension

0:00 1:22:29

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

Teen Taal Aaj Tak Radio Teen Taal is a witty, comedy oriented Hindi podcast where three musketeers Kamlesh Kishore Singh, Panini Anand and Kuldeep Mishra talk about various issues with a pinch of humour and fun. The topic of conversation varies from politics, Indian society, jokes, Viral stuff on social media, food, movies and many more. Catch your share of fun every Saturday.इस पॉडकास्ट के नायक और खलनायक हैं,तीन तिलंगे- कमलेश किशोर सिंह, पाणिनि आनंद और कुलदीप मिश्र. ये तीनों लोग हफ़्ते की घटनाओं पर अतरंगी अंदाज़ में बातें करते हैं, ठहाकों के साथ और अपने अपने biases के साथ. ये पॉडकास्ट सबके लिए नहीं है. जो घर फूंके आपना, सो चले हमारे साथ. यानी वही लोग सुनें जिनका आहत होने का पैरामीटर ज़रा ऊंचा हो. हर शनिवार, आज तक रेडियो पर. जय हो. Light up the darkness jedwardsj7 Christian podcast to interactive with some of the mysteries of the Bible and answer questions that stays on a lot minds Whimsical Wonders Jessica Sawka I love reading stories to children! I’ve enjoyed reading stories to my own children for as many nights, as I’ve been able to. On nights, when I am too tired, I have searched and searched for stories and audiobooks that we would enjoy. Sadly, I never did find any. So I decided that I was going to start my own! The Invisible Wave Podcast Invisible Wave An estimated 1 in 4 young adults in the U.S. are living with a chronic medical condition, many invisible to the naked eye, and posing unique challenges in education, healthcare, the workplace, mental health, and the family.The Invisible Wave Podcast illuminates these shared challenges through highly relatable personal stories from individuals, caregivers, and innovators, and highlights effective grassroots solutions to improve quality of life for this vast, underserved community.*About the Host:*On the first day of her medical fellowship, Dr. Santi Bhagat’s 8-year-old daughter was rushed to the emergency room where they induced a medical coma to stop her first seizure. In that moment Dr. Bhagat crossed the threshold from being a physician to a frightened mother desperate to protect and save her child, and was moved to create Physician-Parent Caregivers (PPC), a non-profit to protect young people with chronic health conditions and their families. Santi has since founded the Anthem Aw
URL copied to clipboard!