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EPISODE · Mar 27, 2025 · 52 MIN

Troy White Teaches Trauma-Informed Tools to Transform Thought and Behavior

from The Fargo Five with Conrad Fargo · host Conrad Fargo

Troy White isn’t a therapist—but he’s spent nearly a decade helping individuals, companies, and incarcerated men and women understand the upstream causes of their behavior.Troy explains how he launched two separate organizations—Upstream Enterprises and Beyond Barriers—focused on emotional intelligence and trauma recovery, offering one-on-one support, organizational consulting, and a cognitive model he developed himself. His work began as solo volunteer efforts at Cass County Jail and has expanded into a nonprofit serving people both during and after incarceration. We discuss how his approach avoids traditional therapy by going deeper into the "why" behind emotions and behavior, offering clients a sense of clarity and control through introspective transformation.We explore Troy’s background, including his journey from low self-esteem in high school to building a successful ad agency in the '90s. He opens up about his experience at MSUM, launching Image Communications, and later finding the work unfulfilling. A turning point came when his past trauma—once hidden even from himself—resurfaced while talking with his young daughters. Troy reflects on how growing up in an environment shaped by undiagnosed PTSD and emotional neglect made him highly attuned to the hidden battles many others face. These personal insights became the foundation for his unique model of healing.Troy walks us through how the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) study changed his understanding of trauma. He shares how he brings that understanding to incarcerated populations, helping them explore their beliefs, rewrite the meanings they assign to events, and rewire their emotional responses. He describes a striking example of how a man in jail, once violent and reactionary, reinterpreted a traumatic event with compassion after understanding its root. This ability to reframe internal narratives is the core of Troy’s philosophy: trauma is not an excuse, but an explanation—and with awareness comes responsibility.We dig into how trauma, anxiety, and fear manifest—not just in the obvious ways, but also in subtle acts of self-sabotage, perfectionism, and fear of judgment. Troy and Conrad share parallels in their upbringing and career paths, bonding over their shared fascination with psychology and people. The conversation also touches on generational shifts in how we support young people, the courage required to be vulnerable, and how peace—not happiness—is the real goal of emotional mastery.Listeners get a raw, authentic look at the human condition, from hiding anxiety behind confidence to the power of creating peace even in chaos. Troy’s model isn’t just about emotional wellness—it’s a framework for growth, responsibility, and genuine transformation. Whether you're struggling with trauma or simply trying to understand yourself or others better, this episode offers powerful insight into the mental and emotional landscapes that shape our lives.To learn more about Troy White’s work, visit growupstream.com and beyondthebarriers.com.

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