Last October's brazen daytime high-set-the-loof was shocking. Now, nearly a year out, there are still critical questions to be answered. Where did they go? And second, where did they come from? In this series, I'll take you inside the events of that day, like you've never heard them before, through the eyes of the people who lived them.
On the pavement, I saw something shiny. You did see the crown. Yes, exactly. High-set-the-loof, a new series from ABC Audio, available now ad-free on Amazon Music. I've been covering the story since its first broke five years ago.
I've traveled thousands of miles, talked to dozens of people in this race against time, and tad-cummets. He starts out with making her feel special and smart and loved. That's what really allowed him to take over her brain and her heart. I've never before seen a video of Tad Cummins' interrogation. I absolutely did not do that.
I did not do that. I'm an I-S skydor, kind of in every situation. I had nothing wrong, but I came in here not knowing if I was going to chat with her. I'm not going to talk to her about life. We have no idea where these individuals could be right now.
They threw both of their phones in the Tennessee River, then it was just completely off the grid. Your head does go to the worst possible place, and that is that they're not going to be found alive. I don't think anyone had really heard of Kalyoka Tennessee until this happened. Kalyoka is a small community. There's not a lot there.
It's a little bitty place with a school and a store and a lot of farms and country people. The railroad track rooms are there. We do have the best of them in the South. They used to say that for the same cedar corn in North Carolina grows one year at hour three. Everybody in Kalyoka knows everybody.
All the kids there go to school together. You know who plays sports, you know who's in the band. Fifteen-year-old Elizabeth Thomas is, for the most part, on the outside, a very typical teenager. She was somewhat of a tomboy. She played really rough.
She could switch to being really nice and sweet. She covered my house and we'd talk and watch TV and eat junk food. Paige Griffith and her daughter Erin say they knew Elizabeth Thomas well. That's Elizabeth on the left, play fighting with Erin in the back of the car. She was just really high energy.
I'd come through the door. She would be the first one that would run up to me and jump into my arms and she gave her daddy. Well, Elizabeth was homeschooled for her entire life, and her mom was the one who was in charge of that. When I first met her sister, Sarah, back in 2017, she showed me around Elizabeth's room and there were tokens of childhood innocence all around. And she still has it.
She has it. It comes. There was an Xbox that she had used her money that she'd saved up from her part-time job to buy, but the toys and the blankets all of it overshadowed by a childhood that had clearly been difficult. Her mother allegedly abused her physically. We had a lot of stuff going behind closed doors that shouldn't have.
Abusive. Very. Violent. Very. Physically violent.
And no escape because you were homeschooled. Elizabeth's siblings say they suffer for years. All that coming to a head when their mother hit one of them with a two-by-four. My mom hurt my sister and we were just fed up with it. We were just done.
After watching all this abuse, we couldn't stay at it anymore. Can you imagine the level of alleged abuse that the children reached out to the Department of Family Services to get help? The children themselves secretly got together and wrote a letter to the agency. Did your mom know that was happening? No.
Are you scared? Really? Like we were all having panic attacks in the middle of the night. Like I look up shaking sometimes. It's just sparing what she would do if she found out.
Her father, Anthony Thomas, worked long hours in pest control to support the family and says he had no idea how bad things were at home. I had just been basically working, basically providing it. How did you find out what was going on at home? There's two sheriff's deputies in my yard and two caseworkers. It's hard for me to talk about it, isn't it?
Yeah. You don't like to think about what was happening. It's like I'm going to stay a break. You want to go outside and get some air? No more.
We have to go to the water. Their mother was charged with abuse and then removed from home. A judge has ordered her to stay away from her family. She's charged with five counts of abuse and neglect. With her case pending, Thomas would only say, I'm not guilty of those.
There was a plea bargain made and as of now, those charges have been expunged. There's no one to do the homeschooling because the dad is out working all the time. That forces all of the children to now enter public schools. What was it like when you first got to school? I had it grounded.
I really like it. It was confusing. There's so many halls and so many classes. Whenever you get out, it's like walking through New York City. It's all completely new to her.
She doesn't know anything about lockers, time periods, bells to change the classroom. The classroom public school makes anybody that's an outsider the target, an easy target. She went from the frying pan to the fire. First thing they did was call me ugly once I came to school. But I just gave to myself. I was real quiet. I just did my work.
Was it easy making friends? I mean, they'll hide their little clicks. They've been together in the school since elementary. You can't really disrupt that. A teacher steps up to help Elizabeth with this difficult transition.
He can see that she's struggling. The tag commons taught health science. You can see him in his YouTube video demonstrating CPR to students. She was in his class and he began to help her make this transition from home to school to public school. And somebody would pick on her. He would take care of it.
He's popular with the other teachers, but most of all he's really popular with the other kids. What's his class like? He didn't ever really care too much for as far as like the little twins. We weren't the cell phones in there, but he never really cared. He always wanted to just kind of let you do your own thing. He tells you to call him, he doesn't really care for the last name basis thing.
He's kind of like the cool teacher. Everybody wanted to take that class. Absolutely. At what point did you meet tag commons? I was about to enter the lunch room. I was sitting there with a few friends and then they said, are you hungry?
I went, I don't have a solar if I did, like I'd be hungry or something like that. And then he came to me and he pointed at me and said, my soul sees your soul. Kind of scary. And how long have you been at school at this point? I think that was not even a month.
She was miserable. She had no one in that school to talk to, except for the teacher. She was so vulnerable and she was looking for somebody. He starts out with making her feel special and smart and loved and that's what really allowed him to take over her brain and her heart. And she was all part of this calculated, sick, twisted plan.
We had a dark side and she was the focus of that dark side. For most of her life, Elizabeth Thomas was home school. So it wasn't until she was 15 that she went to a public school for the first time. And she meets a very popular teacher, a health sciences teacher, Tad Cummins. My first met Tad when I was in junior high. He seemed like a popular guy. He was always kind of cutting up and clowning around a lot.
Tad is my baby brother. He's been my best friend since the day he was born. My mother was the triple-eater of my brownie troop and we had to do something with Pat. We didn't know what to do so we dressed him up like Santa Claus and put him on the floor with us. As an adult, she says Tad went on a church mission to Panama.
I remember him talking about how awesome the pineapples were and I thought they'd cut him out of the ground and I'd let him. I was 17 years old and he was 18 and we met in his high school parking lot. When you meet that right person, you just know. We just clicked everything clicked and everything was perfect. All I ever wanted was to get married and find that Mr. Wright and have a family.
The best word to describe Tad Cummins would be charismatic. He had all the training and so of a good citizen. He was part of a church. He's never had so much as a parking ticket. He's never been in trouble.
We had everything we ever wanted. Two beautiful kids and beautiful grandkids. What was it like growing up with him? We had a very close family, very happy upbringing. Everything was always perfect.
He taught me everything about God. He's a wonderful Christian man. God is the center of our marriage and our faith. He's the most important thing to us. Teaching is actually Tad Cummins' second career.
Before that, he was a respiratory therapist at a local hospital and it's there that he worked with a man named Chandler Anderson. Tad was kind of a bully about things. He would say things like, you're stupid. You shouldn't be in the ER. In front of other people?
Oh yeah, in front of other people. I have seen Tad be told no and I've seen the rage and anger he gets. He doesn't take no well. No, absolutely. Chandler is not surprised that Tad would leave a more lucrative job working at a hospital to be a teacher.
If money is not the central issue and feeding her ego is, that's what he chose. Who tells a teacher no, certainly not students. That's the first time I've seen him, you know, love a job so much. He loved helping people. Students would go to him with their problems. teachers would bring him to students.
They were having problems like he did about to him because he just had that type of personality. They always knew how to help people and write thanks to say. And in the beginning, it looked like that was what he was doing for a 15 year old Elizabeth. Helping her just to a new school where she was having a tough time. Elizabeth, like the other students, started dropping in on Tad Cummins' free periods to have conversations with him and to seek him out for help.
Anything that upsetting me, anyone that would tease me, I'd go down there and talk to him. Did you feel like you had anyone else that you could possibly talk to? He made me feel like I didn't have anyone else and no one really cared about me like he did. What did you think his reason was for being around Elizabeth? I think initially he was wanting to help her because of her past abuse.
You knew where she was coming from. Yes. She wanted a therapist. He dissuaded her from getting a bona fide therapist. I was feeling real low and I was wanting to get on Antadopress and try to go to a therapist.
And he told me no and not to do it because it changed who I was. So he convinced you not to get help? Yes. And it's progressed a little bit more than just a relationship at school because Tad and his wife and the extended Cummins' family has really welcomed Elizabeth into their family and to their home. It was like a father-daughter relationship. It's the way I saw it too. It's the way he would explain it.
In fact, I called her our third daughter sometime. He got me money and he also bought food for me and put it in his classroom. He bought a microwave and put it in his room so I could heat up my coffee. He also gave her a Bible and it really illustrated the links that he was going to earn her trust and not only using his authority position as a teacher but as a man of faith. Our preacher's wife was going to be talking at church once in the morning about abuse and how to get past it.
And so we talked about it and decided to invite her. Taking someone to church doesn't seem like something that would make most people think twice. You have to build that trust and then once you do that then you can just slowly and slowly get them under your wing. Was there a point that you realized he was trying to be more than a teacher to you? Whatever he'd like this week's airing at me all during class. He was always eyeballing me, looking at me, sitting at our table.
The relationship has gone from teacher-student mentoring relationship to something completely inappropriate. She was just a perfect storm waiting to happen. Then he tried to make a move on you. There was one time where he told me that I'd look my psychic and I realized he's going to go on. This show is sponsored by Who Killed Angel Harris, a podcast from ID.
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He was sort of like the center of your whole world at that point. He was. How did you view him? Kind of like a guardian or a mentor. You have a person with, you know, ill intentions that takes advantage of that closeness that the student has with the teacher.
And that's what happened to me. Like I fell in love with my teacher when I was 16. I was groomed and I was abused. Cheryl Nichols details her own traumatic experience in the docuseries keep this between us describing an illicit relationship she says she had with her teacher when she was just 16 years old. For years, I had convinced myself that I was making this choice to be with him. But now there's no doubt in my mind that he was in control of this.
You can't tell somebody about this documentary without them saying, oh, that happened at my high school. I started getting like hundreds and hundreds of DMs on Instagram from women and girls who this had happened to me. So I have over a thousand messages at this point. The relationship between Tad Cummins and Elizabeth starts to change. They start to communicate outside of school.
We did via Instagram. He made a fake account and he made me make one as well. I have a thing called a Finsta, which is a fake Instagram where you have your Instagram that everybody knows about it and you have your fake Instagram that you can do all your crazy stuff in it. So on these social media accounts, Cummins puts up posts like, you're on my heart ever talks about. It was love at first sight.
Elizabeth responds, I look forward to going to school just to see you. I love you so so much. And then Cummins starts to get graphic. Having that secret language between each other that only they know about. That makes her feel special. Right. And that's just grooming 101.
Grooming is manipulative behaviors that groomers use to gain access to a student. Tiny little things that convince the person that they are essentially making the choice to be in this relationship. So once the boundary is crossed of I am your teacher, I am your authority figure, then to I'm your friend, then anything can go. So you were direct messaging each other? Yes. Most of them from him would be sexual text.
He would sexually text you. Yes. Implicitly. Like sexting. Some of the phrases consist of saw you standing next to the locker just wondering when you're back on.
I thought to myself, that's a nice ass right there. He says she can come into the classroom anytime she feels like it. It was her haven. It was her safe space. But quite to the contrary, it was just the opposite. It was an opportunity to get her alone in the classroom.
Does you hang out in his classroom alone often? We just tilled out there. And then it turned into more than just hanging out there. Next thing I know, he said, you look pretty nice naked. When did he take it to something more? Whenever he first kissed me.
How did he make that move? Did he grab my face? Did he tell somebody? No. I was scared. Like I don't want to tell my parent that a grown man kissed me and I don't want to tell friends that a grown man kissed me. I felt guilty. Like I'm not saying he started it, but I mean, I was 15. You know, he's a grown man.
It didn't end up progressing to more than just kissing. Yeah. Did you work at a local, best research firm? And he would come and see her? Why would he come and check away? He'd pull me up in his car.
And talk? Not to talk. What was he wanting you to do in his car? Thanks, or very appropriate. He cannot consent to sex with an adult, unless you are an adult. Anytime a kid is saying okay to an adult about something sexual, they're not actually consenting. They're just saying okay.
This is no longer an innocent relationship. This relationship is taken on a whole new level. It is frightening and it is criminal. He would have sexual acts be performed on him or else acts in the closet, in the classroom. And he would just pull you into his closet.
He'd open the closet door and he looked at me a certain way and I knew if I didn't go that he'd be upset. And no matter how many times I'd try to stop it, I was fearful of what you do if I did anything. And Elizabeth was keeping all of this. Everything that was happening with Cummins hidden, but that explosive secret was about to be revealed. A 12-year-old who's just looking to get her backpack and walks in and she sees something she never expected.
Tad Cummings is kissing Elizabeth Thomas and a student freaks out. She runs to the administrators and she tells him what she has just seen. The school starts investigating. And they removed her from any classes and they put what they call a no contact order in place between the two of them. Tad Cummings is going to figure out a way around that. And you know Elizabeth, she did whatever he told her to do. Out of both fear, manipulation and love.
They wouldn't let me go to this class anymore. Did you want to go to this class still? Not really, but a part of me did. This was a teacher who was loved by the students and the teacher so a lot of people were shocked. They felt like I ruined his life. Because he wasn't telling you that. Yeah, because he was a good teacher. There was a lot of names and teasing that came around and a lot of bullying outside inside school.
Did you want to go to school? Not anymore. I tried to say I was sick or something. I wouldn't go home. I didn't want to be there.
The paint is a very different picture than what the community knew of him. We all have a facade and behind that are some skeletons. And some things come out that the normal public don't see. Sometimes your family don't see. Did you hesitate at all to think maybe this little girl wouldn't have come forward to say that she saw this if that didn't happen?
No. Do you trust with your husband that much? I did, I trust with him that much. It could have just been since she thought she saw something and she didn't know that she was just fine out lying. And as for Tad Gummens, another student comes forward with an alarming story of her own.
Is there any moment that you look back on now and think, oh my gosh, he was definitely trying to cross the line. And as the investigation into that classroom incident he's up, Tad Gummens finds himself in the hot seat. I absolutely did not do it. I did not do it. I just got the impression from both of them that they were lying.
I did nothing wrong, but I came in here and no one felt conscious. I'm afraid that I've ever been in my life. Tad Gummens, who's one of the most popular teachers at school, has just been caught kissing one of his students in his classroom. And of course, that was just a glimpse. That student just happened to walk by and saw the curtain open just a bit to see the wizard working the controls.
And it doesn't take long for rumors to start to spread about what happened in the classroom. One of Tad Gummens' former students hears about it and starts to see her own experience with him in a different light. I was going through my parents' divorce at the time. And did he notice that you were having a hard time? He and I just kind of connected. I'd stay late and talk to the imperminator, go to his class, pour school after school, and just hang out and talk.
Some of the students would make jokes about us being in love or whatever. I kind of blew it off. Looking back now, she says there was one day where she was alone with him at a piano in the school music room where she now realizes he crossed the line. He said no, I'm saying behind him when I started recording. He's doing really good.
And we were the lyrics to the song. He said I could swim the thousand miles in the oceans inside your eyes. You're the kind of woman a man, good luck for the rest of his life. I told you with that point. I was 15. I didn't see anything wrong with it at the time. I finally had come around and been like, wow, this is really who he was. I didn't know him at all.
Nobody wants to believe that that teacher that they really like and they've grown to love is doing something so awful. Destiny says Tad never touched her inappropriately, but her family moved away before she graduated. And so the question remains, could the same thing that happened to Elizabeth have happened to destiny? Now in Elizabeth's case, the school district does talk to all involved. They're trying to confirm the report of that kiss.
They conclude that there is no evidence that there was a kiss. Boy, did they get that wrong. But then the Sheriff's department decides to look into the case too. Detective Marcus Albright interviews Elizabeth. She says she was upset after school and Tad was probably consoling her a little bit and that's probably why Tad was in close proximity to her.
Denysa Kia is denied denied denied. They're winning in physical contact from the two. Other than he grabbed her hands and told her she needed to calm down. That was her version of it. That is very typical, wanting to protect the person who is allegedly protecting you, who has been grooming you for months on end.
2020 obtained this never-before-seen video of Tad Cummins interrogation. Tad says that he's got a good relationship with her. I'm a nice guy. You're in every situation. Tad tells investigators that Elizabeth had had an anxiety attack, a panic attack, and that she came down to see him because he's really good at calming her down.
I honestly don't remember whether I got up in trying to calm her down and put my hand on her arm or her shoulder or something like that. It would have been my left hand doing that and that is the closest that we got, period. The closest? Well, detectives then confront him with Elizabeth's version and his story suddenly evolves. She claims that you grabbed her both of her wrists and were kind of close to her face and you were saying it's going to be all right.
You need to calm down. Would that be accurate to say that you possibly would have been that bad? Not in any very possible. My intention is always not to do that. But she's saying that's how she remembered it. It is absolutely impossible to think.
Tad can't seem to be able to describe clearly what happened a week ago in his classroom. He's evasive and he keeps changing the story. It's in the heat of the moment and trying to console her. Is it possible that you could have grabbed her and kissed her and named her? It is not possible that I could have kissed her. It's possible that I could have served her.
Did you have her? I wish I could tell. Happy poker. You have her in the class though, right? In that kind of, yes.
You can have sold her or whatever. And then Tad come and says Elizabeth continue to text him despite the no contact order but claims he ignored them. Would there be an issue with you showing us texts that you got from a band? Do you have your phone with me? I've got my phone with you.
I don't have those texts still on my phone from yesterday. Why not? Because I got really. Because I'm leaving the car. I mean here's the thing.
It looks like you're covering something up or hiding something. All of a sudden Tad starts shivering. He starts shaking. I mean he looks like he's about to cry. That's the cover up. He is covering something up.
There has not been any kind of a physical relationship kind of thing now. And I've never touched another one. I've never touched another one. I've never touched another one. I've never touched another one.
And then as we got ready to close he gets emotional to a point that he's almost crying and says that he really didn't know what to expect coming into the interview and thought that he might be arrested. And I'm obviously. And I've done anything. I've done nothing wrong. But I can't even hear not knowing if I was coming to show.
I've never been in my life. I just got the impression from both of them that they were lying. So why were they lying? Why were they being so evasive with their answers if there wasn't something going on between the two of them? Meanwhile, Elizabeth's dad hadn't been told by the school of this apparent kiss between a teacher and his daughter.
And he has no idea there's an investigation underway. How did he find out? I get this phone call. Say, Anthony, I'm calling to talk to you about your daughter. I said, you'll wear the school as investigating your daughter into allegations of inappropriate behavior with a teacher.
And he says, which daughter? He said, sir, are you trying to tell me that you don't know anything about this? I said, sir, I don't even know what you're talking about. So he does what any dad would do. He calls his daughter.
I said, is there something you want to tell me? She said, oh, yeah, oh yeah, some girl lied. It's nothing, nothing happened. And I said, this doesn't sound like nothing happened. He is furious.
Elizabeth's father hires an attorney, Jason Bwatley, to write a letter to the school to put them on notice. It was not a nice letter that said, get this man away from his child, or else. The school suspends Cummins and sends him home the next day. They say it's because he broke the new contact order. You say you thought he was falsely accused? Yes. 100%. We'd cry about it, write about it.
Then I was always telling him it's okay, though, because you haven't done anything wrong. If you haven't done anything wrong, you haven't done anything afraid of. The question that a lot of people have. How did she not know something was up? I think a lot of people didn't know. So you never suspected anything?
Did he talk about his wife ever? You tell me how perfect she was and how much he loved her, and how terrible I was. If it weren't for me, he wouldn't be in this. Basically, just you existing was a problem. Yeah, because he couldn't help himself.
How is Pat going to get out of this? He makes a really surprising decision on how to handle this problem. And that's when the bottom fell out of our world. People wonder why the heck would he, she'll get all the way this way. I called the detective, I said. How he found had Cummins yet? He said, Mr. Cummins can't be found anywhere.
Thomas was last seen around 8am Monday. The 15-year-old is now believed to be in the custody of 50-year-old Tad Cummins. And they say they believe he is in danger. There is a lot of pressure on Tad at this point. There are rumors about his behavior. His wife obviously is asking a lot more questions now because he was suspended without pay.
And suddenly, Jill is starting to suspect that something is very wrong here. He always made a coffee the night before we would go to bed. And he started telling me how to make the coffee. And I was like, why are you telling me this? And I was in tears because I thought that he was afraid he was going to go to jail.
And I said, he didn't do anything wrong, but promised me you won't hurt yourself. He said, I promise I won't. He wasn't in under a criminal sense, big, big trouble at that point. No, you're talking about a misdemeanor. I mean, he probably wouldn't have been able to teach anyone where outside of that, but he would never really set foot until sale.
Tad has now been stuck at home for five weeks. He's waiting to hear his fate from the police. I questioned the sheriff about that, and he said that they had to be sure about all of it before they ruined a man's career in life, because he'd never been in any trouble. He wasn't getting paid. We were embarrassed. We wanted just to get it all over with, and him to be given his job back and things he didn't want to get in.
His opportunities to very easily groom this child were coming to an end. For Tad, it was either move on or make a plan, and he made a plan. It's Monday, March 13th of 2017. Tad posts on his Instagram, beautiful day to start. Sending a message there, maybe?
Tad tells his wife that morning, I've got a job interview with one of my old bosses. Because he needs a job. He needs a job. He needs to take her car. She's okay with that. He goes to the show station where we have more video.
Around the same time, Elizabeth packs her bags. Then she wakes her sister, Sarah, with a very ominous message. And she said, I'm not back by six. You need to come find me and call the cops. So I'm like, okay, and I went back to sleep.
The Thomas house has a security camera outside, so you can actually see Elizabeth that morning walking out of her house carrying her bags, getting into her friend's car. She says she took her to show me and dropped her off around age that morning. Tad drives to the showneys Elizabeth gets in the car and by 9am, those two are on the road. Jill starts calling him around noon. She can't reach him. Call his one straight to voicemail. Text messages obviously not be unanswered.
And she starts to be looking silent. And that night, Elizabeth's father realizes he hasn't heard from her. So he spends hours searching and calling her phone. It rang and rang and rang and went straight to voicemail. That was a little bit odd, so I texted her. You know, you're in big trouble.
Well, usually when I did that, I would have a call back within about 45 seconds of the most. Nothing. So Anthony Thomas checks in with police. Anthony mentions to the reporting deputies that we need to check to find out where Tad comes. The on-call detective, he doesn't put the two together or anything. Any significance?
Tad never came home, so when his wife Jill gets home from work that night, she finds a letter from Tad. Jill does not call the police that night, but by the next morning, she does. She's run away. Who's run away? Tad.
She tells police about that note he left behind. Hey, Jill, I'm so sorry. I'm all the way to Virginia Beach or maybe DC just to see and clear my mind about this crap. I'm not letting the light. I'll be back. Don't call the police. Don't think I'm ready to help me. I'll be able to get in. I'm not. I love you. I'll call you, son. Please, forgive me.
I was just in trouble shock when I read it. I didn't know what to think. I'm sorry you're going through this, but, you know, sometimes a lot of those are some curveballs. Yeah, and this is another thing. We did worry about honey. She told me she said you know about what?
I said she says $4,000. She said $4,000. She said $4,000. She said $4,000. She said $4,000. She said $4,000. She said $4,000.
And what did she say? $4,000. And what did she say? $4,000.000. In that note, he said he was going to Virginia or DC. If you do this long enough, you know that people try to defer attention away from something.
More than likely, he's going the opposite direction. Meanwhile, Anthony Thomas is now worried he still hasn't heard from his daughter Elizabeth. The next day I was still frantically looking for a call to detect the attack. I said, have you found Ted Cummings yet? This evening knows anything. He said, Mr. Cummings can't be found anywhere. He's nowhere to be found.
There was no doubt in my mind that they were dead. That was the moment they're not you. I knew it was all off. You're not married to someone for 31 years. And then this happened. You're going to have to start upside down. Everything that you thought was going to be for your future is no more.
First thing I did was see my name in print. The 15-year-old is now believed to be in the custody of 50-year-old Ted Cummings. Now the TBI and FBI are on the lookout. This now becomes a massive investigation because you've got a 50-year-old teacher who has just taken off with his 15-year-old student and nobody knows where they are. That was incredibly concerned.
If he's orange, there could only be one purpose. That would be sort of the last stand. He absolutely knew that law enforcement would be on his tail quickly. Investigators say they have no clue where the two could be. The TBI officials fear they could be anywhere in the country.
He went to extraordinary measures to make sure he wouldn't be tracked. There have been no credible sightings. The TBI says it's received over 80 tips, but still don't know where Tom's going to be. You talk about an absolute bomb going off. Ted Cummings, he's the one? No one could believe it.
Because you know, this whole time that everyone, I mean, like all of America was looking for you. This one could have ended with the founder body. We wanted to take a new look at this month-long crime spree that dominated headlines and put everything we've learned together in one place. I've been married since I've learned years and I've never touched another crime. And I'm not joking with you guys on the side. I've never touched another one.
We learned that you've taken two handguns with him. Hey, Threaten, kill everyone in the commune. If they didn't start bending to his will, and he said I have enough bullets to kill them all. She looked at him as a protector. She was in love with him and she believed that he loved her back.
You were thinking about all the bad things that could happen. Because you were worried he would kill her. Correct. He was plotting to get her out of the country. I see.
He's planning to do this by kayak. Like you're kidding me, right? I'm done eating anything. Right. I'm done nothing wrong.
He said, in mind, trawl, or, I said, tab, you just interrupted by the FBI. We're going to get the latest now on that man on the Tennessee. Ted Cummins. He was a teacher at this school. It's here.
A student walked in on Cummins and Elizabeth kissing in his classroom. Common facing charges of sexual contact with a minor accused of kidnapping is 15 year old student. The two of them hit the road and then they vanished. There have been no credible sightings of these individuals. The FBI is now involved in the search.
I had never worked a kidnapping case that was so immediate and that had so much media attention as this one did. Cult 911, if you see them. The TBI issued an Amber Alert from Elizabeth Thomas. I remember everybody's phone. Everybody's lit up.
I'd never seen an Amber Alert that I know of. And we looked down and it's all Elizabeth Thomas. It's not every day do you have a teacher, student, Amber Alert. You know an older gentleman and a younger girl. Once I learned that she had been taken, I just went from zero to 100.
Like what's he going to do to her? What's he going to do with her? The pad that I know is not the pad that the world is seeing now. It was a wonderful person. He was the protector of our family. He was the rock. The epitome of hero dad.
No matter what we were going through. He was the one you could call him and fix it. No matter what. He was my best friend for 31 years now. I spoke with Ted Cummins wife Jill back in 2017 while he was still on the run and was just struck by how blindsided she was by what she was living through.
We've never even been apart for vacation or free amount of time or work trip or anything. And so he left. I was just in trouble shop. The day after Ted Cummins and Elizabeth Thomas vanished. The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation and the FBI pay his wife, Jill, a visit at their home.
She was helpful the entire time and just an amazingly strong person. She let us go through every part of the house. We were looking for clues, right? Is there anything he left behind that would point us to the right direction? We learned that he had taken two handguns with him. That ramped up our concern.
Jill tells the police that her husband filled a prescription right before he left and that he took the medicine with him. The only erectile dysfunction tablet perfectly proven to work up to 36 hours. He had re-upped his seales early. He almost had like a double dose with him at the time. There's only one reason that you would take that medicine. So we knew we had to find her.
Investigators looked into Cummins activities in the days before he vanished. Tongue to his wife. We were able to locate him at the local Walmart here. The day before he left, Cummins strolls the aisles, looking at women's hair dye. We learned that he had taken a PD loan and he falsified the loan documents saying he had some assets that he did not have.
They boarded $4,500 in cash based on that. Knowing that that was what he had, in your mind are you thinking he's not going to last that long out there? It tells us that he's trying to stay off the grid because he doesn't want to use any credit card because then we can track it. Ted Cummins tried to elude authorities to a variety of methods. Cummins engaged in the daring cat and mouse-style run to keep him getting caught.
We got his cell phone number to try to ping it to see if we could figure out where it was. The last ping was out of bridge in Alabama and then it goes dark. Both took their phones. He oversaw them throwing those phones into the river. He disabled the GPS on the vehicle that he was driving.
He stopped in a quick, more than bottom map of the United States, like a physical map to travel and took every opportunity to stay on back roads. He had some sleeping bags and a basic camping gear. Sometimes they even slept in a car. He had someone license plates, off other cars and traded plates. So the trail goes cold in Alabama.
It could be anywhere. You were fugitive on the run with a 15-year-old. Where can you go? How well have you planned this? My feeling was that he burned every bridge he had there. He was not coming back.
You're thinking about all the bad things that can happen. Because you were worried he would kill her. Correct. One day five, with no confirmed sightings, investigators hold a press conference. At this time, we are going to open the floor to Jill Cummins.
The decision was made to Jill, see if she'll be willing to go on camera and reach out to Ted. To that end, let me speak directly to my husband. Have this is not you. Was that hard? All those scrutinizing eyes?
Yeah. Live. Yeah, it was really hard. Your family wants their poppy back. Please do the right thing.
You turn yourself into the police. I felt like if there was a chance that he would see it and it would make a difference, then even if it was outside my comfort zone, I had to do it anyway. So I did. And then Elizabeth's father makes a public plea to the daughter he calls Izzy. Izzy, please, get away from him. Get away from him. Run somewhere. Tell somebody.
Take another look at their pictures. The photographs that were used. And it wasn't intentional. They made her look like a mature young lady when she wasn't. And there were questions. Some people in the community wondering if the decision to leave was mutual.
I think that she did go willingly. I don't think he forced away to occur. I think it was her decision. But she wasn't always enough to make that decision. A person's search history can reveal a lot of information.
Ted searches reveal a very clear intention. I remember one that was what states allow teenage marriage. It was fairly obvious to us that he was trying to legitimize his crime. And not long after they disappear, the word wife is added to Elizabeth's Instagram profile. I was a little bit sick when I saw that.
Receiving tips from all across the country, which is great because frankly, we have no idea where Ted Cummins has Elizabeth Thomas at this hour. We had over a thousand tips coming in. Every single tip that comes into our tip line, someone will call that person back and we will run it down. We never went home only to just get a few hours of sleep each night. And then we were back in the command post the next day working on this thing.
Finally, after 16 days, there is a solid lead. A person working a midnight shift at a super eight motel decided to type in Ted Cummins in his system. And boom, it popped up. That slip up gave authorities the lead they needed. We were very excited. This was Proof of Life.
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But this side, and you see right here, is from two weeks ago, meaning they could be anywhere in the country tonight. We were consistently a week behind them. She was fine a week ago, but how is she now? Which kind of ramped up the pressure as well. Police are wondering whether Tad likes to stay at Super 8 Motels, and if perhaps there's a pattern here that might reveal where they've been and maybe where they're going.
We basically started doing some really old school, gumshoot, detective work. We contacted Super 8's corporate, then we asked, I want every hotel that's a Super 8. They sent us back a list, and it's over 500 or 600 hotels, and we just call it every one of them. We called hundreds of hotels across the country, and we got to hit it. That hit came from Super 8 in Guyman, Oklahoma.
Guyman is west of Oklahoma City. Now once again, Cummins didn't try to hide his identity when checking in. So he used his own ID twice? That's great, yeah. Were they staying one night, two night, kind of what was the pattern that you were seeing?
Mostly one night, but then they went to the Walmart there as well. Of course we pulled a receipt to see what they're buying food and snacks and stuff like that. Some lubrication, some KYJLE, and so that furthered our, okay, we've got to find her. That made you worried of even more. Correct.
Friends and family members, the missing Marie-Cantine team say they hope we don't forget about Elizabeth Thomas. We have all the media coverage that we can ask for, and then it did start to die off. Once her face is out of the media, there was a very little chance we'd get her back. That's when I did the Green Ribbon campaign. Donna Simler has been hanging those ribbons around the square.
Green is Elizabeth's favorite color. So, Elizabeth could see that your town wants you to come home. Chandler Anderson, a former co-worker of Cummins, also wanted to help bring Elizabeth home by offering a reward. And so we're hoping that $10,000 will get someone to talk or tell us where Elizabeth is. Someone knows where she is.
At this point, investigators don't know where Elizabeth is, but at least they have a better idea of the direction they're at it. They went up here in the panhandle here of Oklahoma. The trajectory that we kind of focused on was where they're probably going west even more. But the problem we ran into with Tad is that it kind of looks like every man traveling with her. It almost looks like a dad traveling with his daughter.
In Nebraska, another possible sighting. This picture is from Kearney, Police Department in Nebraska. We're looking at it. I don't know about this one. The local police quickly discover it was one of many false leads.
And those false leads lead to false hopes for Jill. Despite what he's done, she wants her husband home. Everyone makes mistakes. This was a pretty big one, and it's unexplainable. But, you know, everyone stands.
It sounds like in some ways you still sort of defend him. I do. I don't find myself defending him. Why? After what he did to you?
Do you still love him? Of course I love him. And I forgive him, honestly. It took me several weeks, but I do. But it doesn't mean I could ever trust him again.
They've been gone for several weeks. When's the next time you find out some sort of clue as to where they are? It was Cortez, Colorado. We got a hit there from Walmart. So now we're even further out. You know, it's almost this straight line across the U.S.
which was, you know, helping us immensely. But authorities are still days behind them, and they don't know that Tad Cummins has already made it to San Diego, and is planning to take Elizabeth out of the country by sea. Hey, I'm Brian. Welcome aboard. As experienced fisherman, is it easy to take a boat from here in New Mexico?
No, it's not. You have to have the experience to take a boat out. You have to have the right boat. You have to have the right weather. You have to have the right skills in navigation. Otherwise you're not going to make it.
And Cummins' plan only gets more absurd. He doesn't have an actual vote to navigate these waters. He's planning to do this by kayak. They'd use $1,000 or so of their money to kayak. They'd use the word comical in a case like this, like you're kidding me, right?
They tried to kayak out and around the border to elude law enforcement. They got out into several feet of water and the white caps. The Pacific Ocean was too much for them. He gets to a point like, if we don't turn around and go back, we're going to die. They also dodged another bullet. They ran into a local police officer who had no idea who they were.
The guy says, you know what, sure I'm glad you guys made it back, okay? He says, right after you left, they issued a small craft warning. I just wanted to make sure you guys got back, okay? Hope you guys have a good day and just walk somewhere. After such a close call, it's time for Plan B, going completely off the grid to the peace and love of a commune.
But when the whole country is looking for you, disappearing, it's harder than you think. Tat Cummins and Elizabeth Thomas have been gone for three weeks. They've traveled 3,000 miles through nine states, virtually undetected. So he decides if they hide in the wilderness and they can totally be off the grid, that's where they should go next. One of the things they did early on is they bought a tablet.
And they would connect the free Wi-Fi and they would do searches for places to go out west in California. They Googled the Black Bear Commune. A documentary called Commune was made about the Black Bear Ranch. My slogan at the time was, free land for free people. Everyone needed to come together, live together, sleep together, eat together.
Whatever, everything had to be done together to unite people. They start a long drive to Black Bear Ranch, but they get lost. They're running out of gas and money when they come to Cecilville, the tiny town of just 50 people. Cecilville is a really remote rural community, basically in the center of the wilderness, northern California. It's not a good place to blend in. Everybody knows everybody in every car here, so I think you're going to come out in the wilderness and escape.
It's not just going to happen. At that point in time, since they were going to be around people, they had to come up with a cover story. His cover story was, yeah, they were married. John and Joanna Castro were the names that he chose for them to go by. He said she was 23 and he was 40. They were married, lost her house in a dendreria from fire they didn't have insurance on it.
They were just traveling around trying to make ends meet. It's a pretty elaborate story. Yeah, they may contact with anybody. That's what they told him. In Cecilville, they meet a young man, Griffin Barry. He worked at the local saloon and gas station.
They're working Colorado. He's like, yeah, we had a house fire. I can say, like, lost his job. They're just trying to start a new life. You know, it's now.
Yeah, I put $15 in this tank. Griffin also suggested they go visit his neighbor, Pete, who might have worked for them so they could earn money. Griffin showed up with this gentleman. I did not ever meet his wife. She was sitting in the car doing her makeup, but I didn't have any work at the moment.
Cummins and Elizabeth then continue on their way to Black Bear Ranch, which is another two hours north. When I was covering the story in 2017, we went to Black Bear Ranch. It was very difficult to find. And when we got there, the residents didn't want us to film with our cameras. They eventually agreed to allow us to film with their older phone, and one of the residents named April Showers gave us a tour.
We're in off the grade, the homesteading community. We don't have any television, radio, cell phone, internet. There's no contact with the outside world besides what comes in and out of the driveway. The commune took the pair in, but over the next 10 days, there were problems. The two didn't follow the work rules of the commune. They stayed in bed all day, and Tad insisted on carrying around a pocket knife for protection.
So they didn't fit in here very well. No, they didn't fit in here very well. How did they leave? It was unanimous decision. We didn't have a muck on here at all, and we had asked them to leave.
He was very uncomfortable with Tad Cummins, and he got very angry. They then go back down to Cecilville and once again see Griffin Berry, the guy who helped them out. They needed to make some money, so he said hey, I need some help, I need some rock if you want to help, I'll pay you to do that. But I was like I'll help you out. I put him in the cabin.
Can you show us the cabin? Yeah, for sure. So this is where they stayed. So they were hungry. The girl got excited when I gave him some food.
And her, you didn't really get to talk to her a whole lot. When I was trying to strike up a conversation, I picked him up in the morning and I was like what's your name? And she was like, Joanna? It was almost with like an accident. Griffin just came back and said that this gentleman was back with his wife, and that he put him up in the cabin down there.
When Pete the neighbor finds out that they're back, he has a feeling, you know what? Something's not right about this. You had to remember this news story about young girl running off with an older man. Tomorrow marks three weeks since Thomas was last seen in Columbia. I googled it and it certainly looked like the guy.
Ran into Griffin and said hey, these are people staying up in the cabin here. I saw a photo of the guy and I was like that's definitely him. Then what did you guys decide to do? We didn't call the police. You get to have that. They've been spotted in California.
It came in late one night and on like day 37. The original call started coming in at about nine o'clock at night. So immediately we're like okay, it's definitely a good deal. So we sent a SWAT team from Siski County. A SWAT team arrived in this camp around about three o'clock in the morning.
Remember radio and you got the car was here, had Colorado plates. The plates came back stolen, but to the same make and model vehicle that Tad Cummins was driving. The team parked their vehicles away so you went here doors closed. It was hard to see because it was so dark. We had a sniper to provide oversight up on the hillside.
We just kind of hunker down and waited for daylight. The challenge for the SWAT team is police know that he's armed and they don't want to shoot out. The plan is to have Griffin lure them out of the cabin as safely as possible. You had people everywhere, you know, but they were hidden out a little bit. Like hey, hey, I guess that's what ended up flaking them up.
They both came out together. He sprung up from our cover positions immediately ran down and he'll reel out. Share a spot and get on the ground. The nationwide manhunt for the teacher accused of kidnapping a 15 year old student is over. That teacher is now under arrest tonight. The student has been found okay.
A 15 year old Tennessee girl will be reunited with her grateful family today. We are beyond a light of course, really can't express the feelings that we have. How do you feel about Tad now? After being gone for more than a month, Tad Cummins is finally apprehended with Elizabeth Thomas in Northern California. Thursday, April 20th. Shortly after 9.30 a.m. Mr. Cummings was taken into custody.
It was just such a relief. Thank God she's alright. Frankly, the fact that she was found alive is a miracle. This morning, they ended with they found her body. Elizabeth is flown back to Tennessee and taken to a safe house.
When she walked out, she was just so tiny and just so frail. We were both utterly shocked when we saw her. Anthony Thomas relieved to have his daughter back. Sometimes she'll be happy and laughing and back to the same old girl and then she'll be sometimes just in a field position crying. It's really real acoustic for her.
Donna says when Elizabeth first got home, she was still under come and spell and upset about her. She was upset about being separated from him. She loved him. She was in love with him and she believed that he loved her back. She is in love with a man who was threatening her.
Elizabeth was angry at us or good one. I was the guy in her mind that was going to put Tad away. She was still emotionally very much tied to this predator and had to be disconnected. When you guys were talking to Elizabeth, she didn't seem cooperative at first. No, she was not.
You know, and that's understandably so from her vantage point. Tad was something she could count on and she lost that. She just was adrift. She had to be taken apart emotionally piece by piece and put back together right. It was tough for her to conclude that she was a victim of Tad Cummins.
Just as it took time for him to groom her for exploitation, it took time for her to realize exactly what he had done to her. In her documentary, filmmaker Cheryl Nichols talks about her experience with her teacher. I fell in love with my teacher when I was 16. None of us were so stupid to get into a relationship with our teacher. We were convinced that we were in love.
It was hard for Cheryl to process that. The relationship she says she had with her teacher was actually not consensual. When I found all this out, I felt like this person who I really trusted in my life had completely bamboozled me. I struggled with really deeply low self-esteem for a really long time, in a way that it was difficult for me to function. Feeling like the entire world is looking at you in a negative light, like a home wrecker or a slut.
I don't know how I would have survived if I didn't have therapy. There's a local therapist here that deserves an inspiration that plays for the work she did with Elizabeth. When Elizabeth sat down with me for her first television interview, she'd already undergone months of therapy, just trying to process all that she had been through. How do you feel about Tad now? I know he's a bad man. He only used me for one thing.
Do you think he prayed on you? He did. And he manipulated me. Why talk about what happened? I just think it's time to start speaking up and letting people know what to look for and letting them put down boundaries.
Do you feel like people judge you? They do. A lot of them do. And they think that I'm a whore. They think that I like old men and that's not the case.
A lot of people said, which infuriates me this day, she knew what she was doing. Well, she's 15 and her 15-year-old heart is manipulated. That is an easy way for people to put the blame back on the victim. I don't think it's the student's responsibility to be fending off sexual advances from adults. The car ride and where you ended up is it a trip?
It was not a trip. It was like a kidnapping kind of. He told you you had to go. He said if he couldn't have me, he'd kill himself. Anytime you threaten himself, he'd threaten my family.
I couldn't leave the car. I had to stay in the car with him at all times. I was not to be in a store without him. He made me sleep naked. And my clothes would be put somewhere else. He was a light sleeper. So if I moved, he'd be awake.
And I couldn't even use the bathroom at night without him having to stand right there. He would follow you to the bathroom. Yes. At the hotel, I was showering morning because I felt dirty and disgusting. The reality of Elizabeth's life on the run was that she was a victim of sexual assault every single day.
I know we went to Aspen and then Grand Junction. And then Utah. You guys got to San Diego and he turned a kayak out? Yeah. My hands got tired. Not even halfway out.
So he was making you paddle as well? Yeah. We were both paddling. And he kept going and I just couldn't. Were you scared? I was scared.
I thought I was just about going down. Did you know that this whole time all this is going on? That everyone, I mean like all of America was looking for you. I saw it on Fox News one time in the hotel. A man on his underway.
And I remember it was a nationwide amber alert. I know it was for me. He called me his wife sometimes and he said that we were going to get married. That I was going to live with him until I died. Was that a choice?
Not really. It was made for me. For people who don't understand why was it you felt like you didn't have a choice? If I made my choice and I tried to leave, he would hurt me. Were you afraid he would kill you?
A lot of the time. The day that the police show up. I came out of the cabin and it was early morning. And all you'd hear is hands up, it's over. Did Dad say something to me?
Yeah, he said not to tell them that we have done anything. He said whatever I say, you go with it. Until the very end, it seems Tad Cummins was still trying to manipulate Elizabeth. But now he was going to have to face those investigators who attract him clear across the country. And they had a lot of questions for him.
One point in the interview, he said, am I in trouble? And that's a tad. You've just been arrested by the FBI. Spotify Ads Manager makes it easy to create your first audio ad in minutes for free. Sign up today, launch a campaign and start reaching your audience.
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Terms of Play. Tad Cummins is in federal custody in California. He was arrested there following a nationwide search. Tad Cummins is transported to an FBI office. Now this is going to be the first time that authorities have a chance to interrogate him.
Tyler and myself in the markets interview. What was his demeanor? It was almost like a relief for him that is over with now. Guys like him, they want to tell their story. They want to show you how smart they are and how awesome they are.
Now he didn't want to tell about the criminal accident committed along the way. He walked us through the whole thing. It was like storytelling session with Tad. He just kind of rambled on about being a father figure four in a relationship. He was a cipher to her and was helping her leave a bad situation.
He tells us he just wants to go home and he wants to get this behind and he's ready to move on. I don't think he registered in his mind until we were halfway through the interview that, you know, if you did what's wrong. Investigators already suspect that Elizabeth Thomas had been sexually assaulted by Cummins, but he refuses to say that at the beginning of the interview. He says that things would not be sexual between us that wouldn't happen. The investigators questioning Tad Cummins were determined to get this admission out of him.
They're telling him, look, we've got all sorts of information on you. We know exactly what you did. He got very defensive at that time. He started coming back up a little bit. And he finally gets to a point where he becomes emotional.
And we ask him, did you have sex with her? And a trembling voice he said, of course we will be back. During that interview, he did say she's a very sexual kid. Now, just that sentence alone can tell you that he knew that she was a child, referred to her as a kid, completely recognizing that what he was doing was sexually exploiting. And Elizabeth shared with us that Cummins even polite her with alcohol in order to have sex.
Once he did ultimately confess and started crying, like, oh man, like I'm calm, I'm busted. You don't think he was sorry for what he meant? I think that the tears that happened in the interview was because now my life is over. And then he automatically started switching to, okay, how am I going to rebuild my life with Jill and the girls? Cummins called his wife from jail.
In a television interview at the time, Jill described that jailhouse call. He was sorry, and he called me, he loved me. And please forgive him. I, of course, went into a rage of, do you know what you've done to me? Jill confronted him about his criminal behavior.
I said, well, did you sleep with her? And he said yes, I did. And I didn't want any details. Without me the truth, I just wanted to hear it from him to me. Not surprisingly, Jill ultimately divorced and were numerous tries by Mr. Cummins to go to trial.
Ultimately, he decided to plead guilty. At the sentencing hearing, Elizabeth Thomas finally has her day in court. You had to see him in court, I did. And I made that choice. And I wanted him to know that I'm not his puppet anymore.
She was physically shaking. Physically shaking. We had to block her view of him just to look at him. Was more than she could take. Elizabeth Thomas wrote an amazing victim impact statement.
Mr. Cummins, what you did to me is unspeakable. All you were was a man who wanted sex, and you manipulated me and used me just for that. Elizabeth went on to say, you saw a broken girl who was lonely, scared, and traumatized. You made her feel safe and loved because you saw what she needed and made her believe you would be her protector.
Good evening, everyone. It is a crime the judge called despicable. And now the man behind it will spend the next 20 years in prison. I don't believe for a second that you could ever really do justice. In this case, because Elizabeth can't go back and change her life, she'll always be known as the girl who left with her teacher.
Though Cummins admitted his guilt, he said there was also someone else to blame. He did actually at one point blame the devil. Elizabeth said to me, is he saying that I'm the devil? That really bothered her. I said, he's not calling you the devil sweetheart. He is just a coward.
He was blaming anybody but himself. I blame myself a lot, but now I know that he's at fault. And he can say all day long that the devil made him do it, but he is a devil. While the scars from her ordeal may never fully heal, Elizabeth is in a very different place today. It has been like watching a miracle take place.
In 2017, when I first started covering the story, I tried to talk to Penny Love, the principal of the Colioca Unit School, about what happened with Tad Cummins and Elizabeth Thomas. Can you just tell us why you didn't call authorities right away when you found out about the Tad Cummins incident? Do you have any comment? Even though it took a week for the school to call police after Tad Cummins was caught kissing Elizabeth, the principal spared no time calling police on us. Not the property.
Alright, we're going. The Thomas family sued the Murray County Board of Education, and the case was settled for a reported $650,000. The Board of Education saying the settlement does not constitute an admission that it violated any duty or obligation owed to Thomas. I remember that $10,000 reward that Tad Cummins former Coli put up while the man who called police was able to collect it. Griffin Berry accepted a $10,000 reward money this afternoon on the steps of the courthouse.
Jason Watley and his paralegal Donna Semlar represented the Thomas family, but they had actually never met Elizabeth until after her ordeal. It wasn't easy for Elizabeth to accept them. She had no idea who I was. She later told me though that she didn't like either me or Jason. But Donna didn't let that stop her from trying to connect with Elizabeth.
Jason Watley credits Donna for stepping in and filling a void. The child needed stability, the child needed direction, and in large part Donna provided that Donna showed her unconditional love. It's another daughter relationship. Donna is like a best friend. You guys are pretty tight.
Everyone needs a Donna. I love Elizabeth just like she were my own. She always says everybody needs a Donna in their life, but I don't think she realizes how much I needed her. And when I talk to Elizabeth, I ask her what she hoped her future would look like. What are your dreams for your life?
To have a family and protect them and not let them lay down the road like I was and make them have a better life. Elizabeth is now 21. It's been five years since she was taken by Ted Cummins. She is married to the love of her life, and then she got pregnant with her son, Spencer as his name. I thought she was lost. I thought she was gone.
That turned out not to be true. It has been like watching a miracle take place. Look at me! These are the outcomes that we as law enforcement love to see. I'm sure she has days where she struggles by being able to flourish through those traumas and to have a family and to have some sort of normal life. It's great to see.
For other young girls like yourself, what advice do you have for them? Put down boundaries. Don't let someone push you around and make you do something you don't want to do. And say something to someone if you feel like something's wrong. When you look back at everything that happened. It's a bad place.
But now I'm in a better one. We should know tonight that Ted Cummins remains in a federal prison. He isn't scheduled to be released until 2034. And you can find all new broadcast episodes of 2020 Friday nights at 9 on ABC.