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Trump, who has had enormous difficulties principally escaping the Jeffrey Epstein story, was looking for this trip and his appearances with the royal family and this white tie dinner that the king is throwing for him to overshadow his problems. The difficulty he has run into is that last week the prime minister fired the ambassador to the UK ambassador to Washington, Peter Mandelson. And he fired Peter Mandelson because it has come out that Mandelson had a very, very, very close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. It began in the birthday book, and then there was a leak of emails which Bloomberg got.
Trump went around saying to aides, you know, why couldn't they wait until after the trip? This is just going to remind people of Epstein. And then Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. Michael Wolff, you are in London where everything is going on, but I wanted to kick off with some good news.
I hope it's good news for our audience. Your support has meant the world to us. Your comments have meant the world to us. And we are pleased to report that what started as a trial podcast with Michael and I talking inside Donald Trump's head over the summer has...
And talking over each other often. Definitely interrupting each other. Has somewhat taken off. And we are now official.
Inside Trump's head is now official. We're going to be coming to you on Tuesdays and Thursdays on YouTube. And, Michael, this is rather exciting news. Well, here we are with each other for the great stuff.
For eternity, for eternity. We've even been sent by YouTube a clapperboard, which I'm going to do this with, which I think you only get if you reach a certain level of an audience enthusiasm, which I'm very excited by. But what better day to announce this news than on the day when you are literally projected the face of Michael Wolff is projected, I think it's 200 feet tall, is that possible, on one of the turrets of Windsor Castle in the remarkable guerrilla movie of Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump on the side of Windsor Castle for Donald Trump's visit. I would have said that Donald Trump can't escape Jeffrey Epstein, but possibly he can't escape me either.
Well, this is... And I gather you've been hearing from everybody. I mean, let's just decode what is, I think, I mean, it's out Banksy, Banksy, it's an incredible piece of guerrilla marketing. What a genius thing to do.
Yeah, do we know how they get it, how they got it up there? Well, it was just projected, right? It was just a projection, so you can do it from many yards or feet away. I remember we actually projected fashion images on the side of the Empire State Building, first time it had ever been done.
I assume they don't have permission to do that, or maybe they do have permission. Maybe Charles said, yeah, let's go for it. I don't think Charles would have said it, but William might. Yes.
I think we definitely know that Prince Andrew wouldn't have done. And what we definitely know, if they had done it in Washington, people would have rushed in to take it down and to stop it. And this seems to merrily go on. Well, no, I think the four people that did it have been arrested and charged, actually.
But what you can't do is stop the images online. So for however long it was up there, I think it was an hour, the images have gone everywhere and are indelible. As apparently am I. As you are, indeed.
And I want to give a shout out to Tom Sykes, actually, who was all over this story very early in our team in London, led by Nico Hines and Dan Ladden Hall, who've been doing an incredible job monitoring every single move that Trump has made. But please, Michael, from the moment Air Force One touched down, talk us through this historic visit. The visit is meant to echo a visit. God, how long ago was that now?
Almost eight years ago when he came, when Trump came and met with the clean. One of the things that he often said was a high point of his presidency. And Trump has this thing about the royal family, which is kind of hard to decipher. It's kind of a postcard fantasy about the royal family.
Or perhaps it's a larger fantasy in which he becomes a character. So King Charles, and he made a mistake yesterday and referred to him as Prince Charles, perhaps because King is the fantasy he reserves for himself. But it's very on both sides. So the Brits are looking forward to this, or the Labour government and the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, is looking forward to this because he's had a terrible, terrible week, actually several weeks, several months, you could say.
And so he's looking to this visit for good news, hoping for a trade agreement that will be able to overshadow all kinds of difficulties that he's had. But likewise, Trump, who has had enormous difficulties principally escaping the Jeffrey Epstein story, was looking for this trip and his appearances with the royal family and this white tie dinner that the king is throwing for him to overshadow his problems. Now, the difficulty he has run into is that last week the Prime Minister fired the ambassador to the UK ambassador to Washington, Peter Mandelson. And he fired Peter Mandelson because it has come out that Mandelson had a very, very, very close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
I should point out, not as close as Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, but nevertheless, a close relationship with an email trail documenting their friendship. And it came to light in the birthday book, right? It began in the birthday book, and then there was a leak of emails, which Bloomberg got. And no one seems to know quite how they got this leak of emails.
But there was Mandelson talking to Epstein and basically saying, you know, I support you and you're going to get through this. And notably, if this had happened in the UK, no one would have ever, ever thought anything of it. You would have just gotten it wouldn't have been an issue in the UK. So so Peter Mandelson got hoisted on that and he was fired, plunging Donald Trump into something of a rage with with Keir Starmer, the UK, the UK prime minister, because Trump went around saying to AIDS, you know, why couldn't they wait until after the trip?
This is just going to remind people of Epstein and then Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. He repeats. Trump is famous for this for his repetitions. But whenever Epstein comes up, he seems to repeat it three times.
So it's his mantra, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. And it's haunting him. And so and so here he is in the UK. Mandelson has just been fired.
And it's a big story in the UK. And of course, there's a there's a further backdrop to this, which is Prince Andrew was brought down by by Jeffrey Epstein. Glenn Maxwell, who's a Brit, was was is in prison because of because of Jeffrey Epstein. And here, Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein's again.
And I think we have to continue to repeat this. Jeffrey Epstein's closest friend in life, Donald Trump is. So I just want to get this straight. And I want to remind people when Peter Mandelson turned up in D.C.
as the British ambassador, he had actually been critical of Donald Trump, something which Chris Lissavita, Donald Trump's co-campaign manager, pointed out. And in fact, he X'd out, tweeted out saying Peter Mandelson is an absolute moron. And it looked as if this relationship might not go very smoothly. But in fact, Mandelson, because he is known as the as the minister of the dark arts, managed to smooth it over very quickly.
There was a video of him with Trump. He was standing behind Trump. He then said very flattering things about Donald Trump. And this visit was supposed to be something that he would be in charge of all the logistics.
It was a huge triumph for Britain. And now you're saying that Donald Trump is furious with Keir Starmer for not delaying his. And it's been Peter Mandelson has been quite successful as the as the UK ambassador, that to the extent that it is possible when let's acknowledge this is a bad situation for every country. But the UK, you can argue, has probably made the best of this.
And the strategy here to to abjectly flatter Donald Trump, you'll remember the prime minister came, met with Trump, brandished a letter from the king. And I think he wasn't expecting Donald Trump to read. But in fact, he unfurled it almost like a sort of speaker of old and read it with just enormous glee and joy. I know.
And a brilliant move architected by by Peter Mandelson. So so it's a kind of I mean, it's an irony that that that the guy did a great job. But, you know, except for this one small issue, Jeffrey Epstein. Well, an amazing way it came to light.
The birthday book comes out. Everybody is focused on the Donald Trump letter. Is it there? Is it not there?
Did he do a drawing? Is there a poem? What's the wonderful secret? And then as people spend time with the book, they discover, I think, four pages from Peter Mandelson, including a picture of what looks like a prepubescent girl with a face redacted.
And then literally an unambiguous line from Peter Mandelson, you know, from your best pal, Peter. Yeah, no. And that is and I know this and I know from conversations with Epstein that they were genuinely good friends for a long period of time. This was and essentially what Mandelson is getting hoisted on is being one of the few people who didn't flee from from from Epstein after his legal problems began.
I mean, he stayed in there. Well, it's got Peter Mandelson his job. And so let me let me say a thing that I was at a dinner last night and people were furious at the dinner. It's a dinner in London that the story, the Peter Mandelson story, has not gotten more attention in the U.S., which they regard regard somewhat as a slight to a slight to a person that nobody cares in the world.
And it hasn't gotten much, much attention. And and this is this is over here. I would say that it's one of the preoccupations is is is is the U.K. still important to the U.S.
Is it genuinely important to Donald Trump? Does Donald Trump really care about the U.K.? And does he want is he going to give the U.K. something, a meaningful trade agreement?
Or is this really just to have just a long several days of photo op? Let me ask you something. Do we think that Donald Trump knows about the movie that was projected against Windsor Castle? We don't know.
I mean, I mean, I'm sorry. Let me just go through this in my head, because obviously, obviously, the aides around him would now know about about this. Well, I'm sure it's leading every news broadcast. Exactly.
So but but it's probably not leading every news broadcast in the U.S. I don't know. Is it you would know that? Well, when I was what I have four different news stations on my television.
And at one point, I think three out of the four showing it at the same time is really four different. You're like Donald Trump. Well, it's known as multiview. It's very straightforward.
It's an advantage of YouTube TV, but it's multiview. So I can watch four different things at the same time. Is it on the same screen? On the same TV.
Donald Trump has four different screens. So he's not caught up to that technology. He's probably got he's got four on each of his four screens, giving him 16 news channels. I only I only have four.
But but it's certainly been part of the dialogue here. Of course, we've had bigger stories going on with the death of Charlie Kirk. So Peter Mandelson hasn't got much attention here at all. And he will.
This is all part of his general the background to his unhappiness. He should be happy. He is not happy. Now, that's that's that's part of the course with with Donald Trump.
He is always at some level of disgruntlement. So and coming here, trying to get away from Epstein and here, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein is yet following. Well, and of course, there's the Prince Andrew of it all. And there was a massive, enormous sort of tarpaulin with a picture of Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein with their arms around each other, which had been rolled out in a public lawn outside of Windsor Castle, which has also got a ton of attention and obviously photographed by drones, which also went everywhere.
But there's another aspect of this that we should also point out, which is that there was a very substantial. I mean, a really substantial right wing demonstration in the streets of London, I mean, led by led by a figure, in fact, a kind of Charlie Kirk is Kirk like figure of in in the UK. I know Tommy Robinson, which is a very, you know, has become the young right wing exponent. And and I mean, the demonstration was was was huge in the London streets.
And and Trump, where he of the mind to to to to to regard this, I think he could look at this at this, that that that his movement, the mega movement led by him is is is is having a significant impact over here. Well, maybe he'll move on from Greenland, Greenland, and he'll turn his eyes to Europe and taking over Britain. I mean, I think that would play into Putin's playbook, right? I would actually suit me because it would be a would be nice to be able to have a seamless.
Well, you may end up having to stay. You may end up having to stay over there. Yeah. So let's just I mean, I was very struck when he came down the steps of Air Force One, how tightly he seemed to be holding Melania's hand.
We haven't seen them together, as you're frequently pointing out for some time, although she suddenly cropped up at the A.I. event that they had at the White House with all the tech leaders where she was talking about the dangers of A.I. And then we saw her at the 9-11 memorial at the Pentagon. But we haven't seen them holding hands for a bit.
In fact, normally she flicks his hands. That's why that's why he holds it tightly. And if he doesn't hold it tightly, she'll pull it away. And he looks as if he was half holding on for support, getting down the stairs, which must be very stressful when you've got all those cameras on you.
These stairs are very steep. Yeah, I always feel sorry for the president's running up and trying to come down. I don't know why they haven't solved that. They could have got kind of a circular staircase.
Well, they did solve it for Joe Biden, right, which is they put it in the middle of the aircraft and they gave him shallower stairs. But you think these things are slippy? i'm sure i would fall both up and down them so i have some sympathy but it's very windy in london so he could be well it would have to be a big win to leap him away we're just going to take some ads and we're back with what else donald trump's trip to the uk all right so he's held on to melania he's got to the bottom of the step met by the protocol officer and he's helicoptered off to winfield house where he's with the ambassador what's happened since then tonight there is this white tie dinner i mean i've actually never heard of a white tie dinner but apparently that's even smarter than black type royal thing um and um and it's uh the kind of height of the pomp of this and um um a very significant formal event it is it is it's what a state visitor gets um and um and one of these side lights the interesting things about about that is that apparently this will be attended by rupert murdoch now um now this is kind of weird because donald trump is in the process of suing rupert the wall street journal and um which rupert murdoch owns for 10 billion dollars and this is over the revelation of the epstein letter in the birthday book right so there's two interesting things about that there was the revel that the wall street journals um the wall street journal first published this letter donald trump said it was a hoax um um but subsequent to that the entire birthday book all of the letters that um uh that were written to jeffrey epstein on the occasion of his 50th birthday in 2003 all of this organized collated by delaine maxwell um this entire book was released and and sure as you can there was the uh the letter from donald trump the theoretically hoax letter from donald trump to jeffrey epstein um now everybody nobody else in this in this of the many many many many people who wrote uh jeffrey epstein letters family friends leon black alan dershowitz they're all there random celebrities nobody else has has denied the authenticity of these letters the only one who has denied the authenticity is donald trump so i mean peter mendelson has been fired because of the authenticity of his letter right and he didn't say that's not me so and so we can assume that actually it's a genuine a genuine um letter from donald trump but he certainly has not said okay you got me and withdrawn his suit rather he is he is not only aggressively pursuing his lawsuit but then he sued the new york he announced he was going to sue the new york times for for also citing this letter now possibly because someone near trump said this is you know you're i mean you're you're kind of you're on you're on sort of uh sinking sands here um and he did not sue them because of this letter and said he turned around yesterday and sued them for some other articles that he didn't like for 15 billion i believe 15 billion and for years he argues for years of uh articles that were just written against him right so in other words bias against him against the the backdrop of of after charlie kirk's death the death saying that he is going after free speech he doesn't call free he is going after a leftist speech um that is that's that's what he wants to curtail that's what he wants to regulate uh now hold on hold on we just go back to the specter of this incredibly formal dinner where he will be dressed up in white tie i'm sure we'll get details of whatever the first lady is wearing um but he will be sitting near rupert murdoch he will be eating at the same table yeah so i understand that he asked for rupert murdoch to be invited and within and what um what trump intimates have told me is because he believes that he can quote pressure the old man into a settlement rupert murdoch is 94 years old so if he can pressure him into a settlement and then a person near trump said to me that it would be it could be an easy 10 million so there is this this this kind of thing that he's he's now attacking free speech you know as a you know i certainly in this instance as a way to collect some money for himself as a sort of shutdown which yes which he did for in his suit against abc they settled for 15 million dollars a suit against cbs they settled for 16 million dollars all which goes not to the united states treasury but to donald trump and the the lever here that he has against him none of these suits would prevail in any court they're specious ridiculous um you can't even begin to take them seriously at any legal level but you know he controls the united states government so the united states government so it's not just a lawsuit it's just not not just what happens in court it's what what these companies face in terms of interference by the united states government so it's enormous leverage that he has over anyone that he sues on the end and again who he is suing on a personal basis again and just just let me add this again because it really is it should not be overlooked never before in the modern age has um as a president of the united states sued a media company actually and it may be that that never before in the modern age has a president may sue anyone on a personal basis well and it's also worth reminding people that the head of the doj pam bondy was his personal lawyer and todd blanche the number two at the doj was his personal lawyer and of course the minute the wall street journal released or the minute the wall street journal ran the piece about trump's birthday letter to jeffrey epstein which you have always maintained was released by the maxwell family as a shot across the bow to say hey gillen is sitting in a unpleasant jail in florida todd blanche is on a plane five days after the release of the letter to interview her and he takes two days interviewing her and lo and behold the following week she's literally moved to a low security jail in texas where she has a sister living not in the jail in texas just just to add because i think we should keep track of this all of these these legal trump legal issues personal legal issues are coordinated by a man by the name of boris epstein who has been his um consigliere um throughout throughout the campaign and times actually before the campaign the campaign began um who still has essentially that that client of one relationship with with trump um and he did not chose specifically not to come into the white house but nevertheless coordinates all of trump's personal legal strategies outside of the white house well it's going to be an absolutely riveting dinner tonight so we've got donald trump possibly sidling up to rupert murdoch to say hey can we get something done do you think that rupert murdoch is and you've written four books on donald trump and you've written two books on rupert murdoch so do we think that rupert murdoch is likely to settle i know he's 94 but rupert's mother lived till i think she was 102 um but even that people say that and i just you know as as though this is a long long least on life he's 94 coming on 95 um even on the outside on the outside it's a um time is running out here he is as donald trump calls him that old man he is an old man well there was an almost comic moment when uh the trump camp insisted that rupert murdoch be deposed quickly they wanted him deposed within two weeks because trump said he might die he might die so sort of remarkable um maneuvering on both sides but do you think that rupert murdoch is likely to settle i i don't know i think it's i think it's possible i mean i think i mean i would never have said that the rupert murdoch of yore would never have settled the rupert murdoch who ran um one of the largest media companies in the world and one of the most aggressive media companies in the world certainly would never have settled um but as it happens he just settled a very contentious lawsuit with his family um i am and i think i think if you had to analyze this moment as is he wrapping up things settling things getting getting his affairs in order um this might be the moment to strike and donald trump has a very strong animal instinct for someone's weaknesses but the wall street journal um op-ed page has been extremely aggressive and this week has been very robust against the trump tariffs it's really taken a very strong uh normie republican line against donald trump it's really kind of swinging against him no no i i don't i don't know i mean that's it has and you would think in donald trump is i mean rupert murdoch has i've written a thousand times this can't stand donald trump but rupert murdoch has always had this instinct for power he knows where the wind blows um and um so that really is like two elephants circling each other all around the very fine china of windsor castle all dressed in their lovely white tuxedos i do love a white yeah no and it's it's you know i mean i think i think we should keep our eye very closely on this space because it is again um you know donald trump is winning um donald trump is winning is he i mean i feel like the epstein stuff has overshadowed well it doesn't i didn't say he has won um but certainly in his war against the media he is he is winning um and i would look at i would also keep my eye on i mean the the editor of the wall street journal who is who is a britain a friend of yours yeah emma tucker i would keep my eye on that space you know is is someone going to have to pay for this for this um uh for the trump non-hoax hoax letter so let me take you back to the also the incredible pageantry that the uk has put on our uh royal royalist uh tom sykes wrote an excellent piece in the beast today which i would urge everybody uh to read about how britain has basically prostated itself for donald trump and we know he loves the parade and the brits are incredibly good at putting on wonderful wonderful parades beautiful shining military parades that don't seem threatening but seem glorious and have you know hark back to years of yore i saw that donald trump was enjoying the full the full panoply of british pageantry do you think it will give him ideas well you know i think i think the more immediate question is do the brits get something out of this do they get their trade agreement do they get their um um does keir starmer come away with with um uh with powerful headlines i mean there was a headline headline today all of the papers led with with a big tech investments i mean which is really not very much of anything but but um but they they they pumped it up um and the brits are spinning it as a sort of industry it's a business deal yeah and i think that's what they want that's a keir starmer wants to come out and say this is what i've gotten i bowed down to donald trump i've sucked and sucked and sucked and i've gotten something for it you know the problem with that with with with trump is that you know he uh he gives and he takes and he gives and then he forgets that he's given you something and um um and and it has no no consistency no staying power um and he promises this tariff today and then it's that tariff tomorrow so i i think it's a it's a i mean i i say that they are playing a game here that the labor government is playing a game that they're in the end not going to get much of a return on well it's also worth pointing out that keir starmer needed a visit like this to be successful for him because he'd also as well as peter mandelson lost his deputy prime minister angela rayner which has been a huge domestic blow for him so both of them looking to get something out of this and both of them being compromised by by the epstein story both with peter mandelson and prince andrew and then you have you have you have nigel farage in the background of this who is um certainly campaigning to be the next prime minister um the um very right-wing reform party right i started a new party it is the party that is it is now all eyes are on the reform party and nigel farage has been consistently a uh a supporter a um a friend a player in trump's own political rise as a matter of fact eight years ago on that visit um when when trump came to the uk i i was here with steve vannon and um um and and there was a a lunch a liquid lunch trip nigel farage of which i was president and we're going to take a quick break and michael wolf and i are back talking about donald trump's trip to the uk michael you're going to have your own state visit at this rate i mean we said uh he pointed out on the podcast earlier this week that this is actually a very unusual second state visit most heads of state only get one visit with royalty but because donald trump saw the queen last time he was over and of course the queen died and there's a new monarch uh king charles is now in the position to offer him a second visit because it's about the visit to the monarch not the visit to the country and it was and also this became a strategically useful the the presentation of the letter in desperation every literally every country is desperate about its relationship with the with the u.s because because i mean these tariffs are real draconian and damaging and um um and so it's it's for everyone it's how can we minimize let's do anything possible to minimize the um the damage here and so that's the hope they can try out prince charles and prince charles now i'm still um well he had 70 years he had 70 years as an apprentice for that job so it's no surprise you get his title wrong i mean it will be curious actually that conversation will also be very curious well do you think this has been good for the king and the royal family this visit uh you know i mean i think i think it would be a question of what they come away with here what they can claim and does it stick does it have holding power or is this this just that they just are they just victims of more trump baloney well michael we expect you to report back on the dinner and whether or not donald trump murdoch two old white men get into fisticuffs over many plates many glasses many forks and i mean i can just imagine the place settings or the tabletop as americans calling it with all the different knives and forks and the napkins and the finger bowls i mean it is a glorious thing a white tie dinner uh at winter castle i'm talking as if i've been to one i haven't but i have been to buckingham palace a few times and the royal family are extremely good at doing at entertaining i mean they really are so uh i hope donald trump and melania have fun i hope that melania gets to sit next to camilla who seems to have recovered from her unfortunate uh bout of sinusitis and i did want to to suggest that when you talk to trump's people they they ask the royal family how donald trump should learn to shake hands because i noticed as he came down the stairs he has a very firm grip he really does as we know he does that whole pulling back and forth with the hand which may or may not be leading to the bruising on both hands um so maybe he's doing some left-handed grips too um but the royal family should have very specific protocol that you put your hand out as a subject of the royal family you put your hand out and they very gently squeeze it so you're not supposed to do the vigorous shake again let me rush in to say this is already a long explanation donald trump does not do um even short explanations so this this is this is going nowhere well then we're going to see more of his bruises i'm very curious if you shake his hand do you get makeup on your hand well i have shaken his hand and no it's but it's But didn't he shake his hand before he had make-up to cover the bruises? Yes, I have not shaken his hand recently.
But I do remember shaking his hand. I do remember the feeling that it's a plump hand. It's a plump hand. Well, Michael, we'll see what hand the British come away with after this spectacular state visit.
We'll be talking to Tom Sykes tomorrow for the royal perspective on this and whether or not Prince Andrew has managed to stay out of the way. Or, as he did at the Duchess of Kemp's funeral, he pops up and manages to zelly-gly appear in all the photographs in which Prince William looks absolutely livid that he's there because he's obviously very conscious that his job is to take the royal family on into the next generation. And having the spectre of Prince Andrew and, of course, his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is not best helpful. You may not have been to Buckingham Palace, but I have been...
I haven't been to Buckingham Palace. I just haven't been to Windsor. Oh, okay. Well, I, on the other hand, have been on the face of Windsor Castle.
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