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EPISODE · Jan 23, 2026 · 33 MIN

Trump’s Investigator Breaks His Silence

from Deborah Lebree's podcast · host Deborah Lebree

Three years after his appointment as special counsel, Jack Smith finally delivered the legal argument against President Trump on Thursday that he was never allowed to make in court.Glenn Thrush, who reports on the Justice Department, explains what Mr. Smith told Congress and why his message is likely to make him Mr. Trump’s next target.Guest: Glenn Thrush, who reports on the Justice Department for The New York Times.Background reading: In his testimony, Jack Smith defended the decision to prosecute Mr. Trump.Here are four takeaways from what he said to a House committee.Photo: Kenny Holston/The New York TimesFor more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

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