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EPISODE · Feb 22, 2025 · 46 MIN

Trump's Ukraine talks aim to divide Russia from China. Can he do it?

from Geopolitical Economy Report · host Ben Norton

The US government's talks with Russia are more about China than Ukraine. Donald Trump admitted he wants to "un-unite" Russia and China, in a reverse of the divide-and-conquer strategy used by Nixon and Kissinger in the 1970s. Can Trump do it? Ben Norton explains why the United States sees China as the main threat to its global imperial dominance. VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRJIymzuRGU Topics 0:00 (CLIP) Trump: divide Russia & China 0:18 US-Russia talks 1:01 USA says China is 'greatest threat' 2:11 (CLIP) Trump on Russia & China 3:31 US dollar dominance 4:14 Divide & conquer 5:23 Nixon in China 6:06 Kissinger strategy 6:59 Trump's neocons 7:57 (CLIP) Marco Rubio: partner with Russia 8:20 Ally with Russia against China? 9:37 (CLIP) Tucker Carlson on Russia 11:01 (CLIP) Marco Rubio on Russia 11:42 Marco Rubio on Ukraine & China 12:34 Rubio: China challenges US-led order 13:05 Rubio: China wants to displace USA 13:40 Rubio: China is "greatest challenge" 14:20 China more powerful than Russia 14:40 Population 14:54 Economy 15:31 Manufacturing 15:58 Technology 16:56 Research 17:19 China's alternative 18:08 Competition to Silicon Valley 18:55 Russia's strengths 20:02 Brzezinski's warnings 20:49 BRICS & SCO 22:21 (CLIP) CIA director John Ratcliffe 23:21 CIA on China "threat" 25:07 (CLIP) Blinken on China "challenge" 25:31 Mike Pompeo on China 26:14 US imperialism & Panama Canal 27:15 Monroe Doctrine 27:46 Europe 29:03 JD Vance 30:04 US colonialism in Ukraine 32:41 (CLIP) Trump wants to expand USA 33:10 Imperial expansion 33:44 European right wing 34:45 Can Trump divide Russia & China? 35:09 Putin's rise to power 35:55 (CLIP) Bush on Putin 36:30 Russia tried to join the West 37:31 Russia's fall out with the West 38:07 Ukraine war context 38:39 Russia-China relations 39:41 Sanctions relief? 40:28 Security guarantees? 41:56 Can USA be trusted? 43:25 Is there a possibility? 46:36 Outro

The US government's talks with Russia are more about China than Ukraine. Donald Trump admitted he wants to "un-unite" Russia and China, in a reverse of the divide-and-conquer strategy used by Nixon and Kissinger in the 1970s. Can Trump do it? Ben Norton explains why the United States sees China as the main threat to its global imperial dominance. VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRJIymzuRGU Topics 0:00 (CLIP) Trump: divide Russia & China 0:18 US-Russia talks 1:01 USA says China is 'greatest threat' 2:11 (CLIP) Trump on Russia & China 3:31 US dollar dominance 4:14 Divide & conquer 5:23 Nixon in China 6:06 Kissinger strategy 6:59 Trump's neocons 7:57 (CLIP) Marco Rubio: partner with Russia 8:20 Ally with Russia against China? 9:37 (CLIP) Tucker Carlson on Russia 11:01 (CLIP) Marco Rubio on Russia 11:42 Marco Rubio on Ukraine & China 12:34 Rubio: China challenges US-led order 13:05 Rubio: China wants to displace USA 13:40 Rubio: China is "greatest challenge" 14:20 China more powerful than Russia 14:40 Population 14:54 Economy 15:31 Manufacturing 15:58 Technology 16:56 Research 17:19 China's alternative 18:08 Competition to Silicon Valley 18:55 Russia's strengths 20:02 Brzezinski's warnings 20:49 BRICS & SCO 22:21 (CLIP) CIA director John Ratcliffe 23:21 CIA on China "threat" 25:07 (CLIP) Blinken on China "challenge" 25:31 Mike Pompeo on China 26:14 US imperialism & Panama Canal 27:15 Monroe Doctrine 27:46 Europe 29:03 JD Vance 30:04 US colonialism in Ukraine 32:41 (CLIP) Trump wants to expand USA 33:10 Imperial expansion 33:44 European right wing 34:45 Can Trump divide Russia & China? 35:09 Putin's rise to power 35:55 (CLIP) Bush on Putin 36:30 Russia tried to join the West 37:31 Russia's fall out with the West 38:07 Ukraine war context 38:39 Russia-China relations 39:41 Sanctions relief? 40:28 Security guarantees? 41:56 Can USA be trusted? 43:25 Is there a possibility? 46:36 Outro

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