EPISODE · Jun 10, 2026 · 30 MIN
Trust Is Earned Before Therapy Can Work
from Resilience Development in Action: First Responder Mental Health · host Steve Bisson, Stacy Raymond
Send us Fan MailYou can build the best peer support team on paper, fund the best wellness initiatives, and still miss the people who are hurting the most. That’s where this conversation with Dr. Stacey Raymond goes, and we don’t stay polite about it. We talk about why first responder mental health needs to start at the academy level, with a clear warning: the job will expose you to traumatic events, and it will change your sleep, your relationships, and how you see the world. We also get specific about a topic that frustrates a lot of officers and clinicians alike: what “vetted therapist” should actually mean. If you’re a clinician who wants to work with police, fire, EMS, or dispatch, cultural competence isn’t a buzzword. It’s ride-alongs, learning how calls really flow, understanding why police often don’t get to process between calls, and recognizing how trust is earned minute by minute. Along the way we highlight the hidden load carried by 911 dispatchers, including relentless exposure to crisis audio, limited movement, and little closure due to HIPAA. Then we zoom out to leadership and risk. Chiefs and supervisors often want certainty about who is “safe,” but human behavior is dynamic and can shift fast with substances, gambling addiction, and life stress. Dr. Raymond shares research using the ACEs questionnaire and adult attachment patterns, showing how certain adverse childhood experiences correlate with avoidant, mistrustful coping, meaning some officers will bypass peer support and refuse therapy even when they know they’re struggling. If you care about police wellness, first responder resilience, EMDR-informed trauma treatment, and building a culture where getting help doesn’t feel dangerous, hit play. Subscribe, share this with someone in public safety, and leave a review so more people can find the conversation.To reach Stacy, please go to her website: https://www.drstacyraymond.com/Her Instagram is https://www.instagram.com/stacyshrink1414/You can buy her book hereDeemedFit: First Responder OwnedWe are a first responder owned company looking to get first responders in the best mental shape.Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showYouTube Channel For The Podcast
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Send us Fan Mail You can build the best peer support team on paper, fund the best wellness initiatives, and still miss the people who are hurting the most. That’s where this conversation with Dr. Stacey Raymond goes, and we don’t stay polite about it. We talk about why first responder mental health needs to start at the academy level, with a clear warning: the job will expose you to traumatic events, and it will change your sleep, your relationships, and how you see the world. We also ...
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