“TRUTH AND FRIENDS” Pt.1

Hello? Hello. Yeah, Mr. D.

Sean. How you doing? All right. We got Dre on the line too.

Dre. So what's up? How you feeling? I'm coming good.

How much? Can't complain. Wait, no one more. I was trying to shine.

Hi, Dre. We need again. Well, you know what? Let's go ahead and get started.

Like I'm holding still up for this economy as you come in as you don't see that. But tonight episode is a very special episode. I can say that there'll be a very special episode. I'm called a truth in France.

I got my friends with me, but to do ourselves. Hello, everyone. My name is Eshan. And I'm Adrian, aka Dre.

So first time we're gonna talk about tonight is the cash 69 arrest to cash 69. He's a rapper based out of New York. He were recently arrested on federal charges or rec itarian robbery and drug trafficking. Some people refer today to Rico.

Now, my number one question is to cash me the black extremely half of blood for blood numbers in New York. Why do y'all think they allowed him to continue his foodiness without any type of reprimand? They was making money that simple. That's something.

He was cashbound. What did you say he was getting started? And somewhere. Yeah.

But he was too stupid to know it. It's a what's not like. So he just want to be down. Yeah, but you know, but you know, not think it is though, like, you know, people like, you know, Keanu, you know, you know, you know, nothing is like, um, people like white, white, red, like white guy, that's like rich, he was like a crib in LA.

It just it just bothers my mind that, you know, they make a black out of their community, a crowd with some black people and they try to be down. But then once they get into those interrogation room, they start snitching. You know, so my next question is why do black people tend to have white people around them to a possible agents or threat stone? Sometimes I feel it's just access.

Access? That's just the word exactly. Well, I look at it like this. If I can have somebody represent me that can give me until certain places that I normally can't because of my skin coat, because of one con from I don't use those like people, you know, take advantage of those situations.

But a lot of times going to realize I'm bad at me, turn it out because of attention to this, you know, brought on. I mean, the thing was 69 was the hip hop, police in New York were been looking at because he claimed there's gang activity that he was easy mark. They went out to him like they went after little chimney went after when I had to go to a fat Joe, like they tried to do a fabulous with a street fan and all those things. But he was just too stupid to know it.

And his quote, quote, quote, Oh, geez, big homies was just busy trying to grab all the cash they can. And I say, he got too big too fast about too much attention to him. But they basically use of access. So how you feel about the white people keep people like that for a while?

I mean, I feel the same way, just like the Sean said, it's it's access to things that we typically don't have access to. So do you so do you have a event process where we allow people in our personal and professional spaces that are different races? We need a event process even if they are sandwiched. Just because it was like, I was just saying, if you all these people know the answers are that's nature, you know, I'll trust anybody.

So I get to know that's true. That's very true. I could definitely bounce with it. But yeah, so I met up because I was going to be the Jill Scott's Mark Bro down.

Now like, like most like most men, I was up and like, Oh, she's doing a good job with that. Mike, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? She can get the dignity.

Yeah, but you know, I thought about some two though. First I want to get you guys on what do you guys want? I mean, I mean, honestly, just I feel like that if you have her quite wrong, I don't know what to say. You know, she was actually a little upset about that.

So I mean, she was saying that the video was old and I guess not really said about her actions, but the way that it was shown and, you know, a lot of guys were sending her DMS and she was just not appreciative of that at all. Because you know, I thought about some I was like, Oh, yeah, just as just as a mother. Yes. You know what I'm saying?

So when I when a kid goes to school, I think a kid was like, nine or two years old or something like that, but it was definitely a school age child, you know, who's old enough to, you know, get back lunch from it. Yeah. So he's the fences against that. So I was thinking about that.

And I was just like, what are the ramifications of that? You know what I'm saying? So she is a mother. I mean, but that's the thing about it.

Even though she is a mother, she was an Santa Claus. She's been out there. So it's like, they comes with becoming a celebrity child. You become a target.

It's not like you're a mother to this world. intentionally wanted to become that book. You are child of a celebrity. It comes with stakes as well as privilege.

So I mean, you just got to suck that up. Now, if she want to be one of those people who can't say, I'm a child, okay, I'm going to get out the spotlight completely. That's fine. That's good.

But she got me brain. So he benefit from her stage performances and how much she put up. I mean, he's a child with a kid. You grew up in the metro area.

You know how we do as kids, even if your parents not famous, yeah, rib each other over the smallest names. Yeah, but that just gave a kid more ammunition. Like, like, you said he got to suck it up. And so I'm like, I'm going to suck.

You know, I'm saying, like, you don't I'm saying like, you're just like, this is gonna give kids even more ammunition. You know, I'm saying, I mean, I would add in, even though, you know, in this world full of technology and all of these children have cell phones and this kind of thing, children that aid record really shouldn't even have access to that. We just haven't been able to see that. Yeah, because he got YouTube we got YouTube channel.

You know, we have some product about guys on it. And he's I told him he can never put his picture up there because you know, they got like pedal styles and I'll type out a little bit of riddles out there on the internet. But he does have YouTube channel. Okay.

Well, I know my son, I said to YouTube channel, Instagram, Twitter, all that type of stuff. But he had a sense from a signal for you was 13. And a lot of us have a guideline on keeping sure you shout out to 10 years old all before they accurate account. And like I said, they always around it.

So I mean, I'm sure he can see his classmates to see it and stuff like that. But that you said, if it was old, it's been out there, he just happened to resurface. I'm sure his mom, the type of woman she portrays herself, I'm sure his mom been explained to him what she do for a living, how she do out of shows and things like that. I mean, I mean, I try to be messy, but he has other things that it's like he's worried about, you know, deal then to what two husbands and plus his father.

So I'm sure he doesn't see some things worse than a So you guys are going to take a brief brief animation, then we go right back because it was like I'm trying to get a key on online, she says she has trouble logging in or whatever. I'm going to shoot it back to y'all again, and we go come back and I really want to talk about this black woman selling thing and everything. Oh, I really need all hands on that. So if I take a brief animation, I'm hit you all right.

Okay. Yes, yeah, we got you. Yeah, I'm here. All right, Dray, we got you.

I'm here. So we got you. Yeah. All right, good, good, good.

So we discussed it. We kind of discussed this topic briefly at work lens like right on we're talking about black women and selling all black women selling from men's out here in the streets. Dre, start us off. Yes, I do think not all I know how you are with you.

But I do believe a lot of us are just a kind of brief to you in. So you guys in what we talked about last night. So I brought up to tires and the show about how black women really don't have a lot of options as far as when it comes to dating or marrying other black men because of a rumble different things, incarceration, multiple children, baby mama, not educated, not being financially responsible. But tires does not agree with it.

You want to elaborate? No, I do not because I've got to. I don't know because I've got to. Okay, I'm already talking.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you agree with that? Do I agree that black women have to step?

Yeah, do you agree with that? Not necessarily that we have to settle with that we are so I think I think it's true because the same reason she just that like black men's fault is a lot. The fact that for whatever reason black men now are not necessarily wanting to be with black women. And that also makes the pool a lot smaller.

So so Mr. DeShah, you're a black man. How do you feel about these things? And me but in black women?

Some of it's true. I mean, educated black man, once in all, baby mama's good job. responsible financially, as well as emotionally responsible, nahi nachi, those are rare. You and but I want to say a few inform between but I think that they're out there.

I just don't think like black women are really searching in the right places like in the right circles. You can't because you can't tell me that all the white women you can't tell me that all the white women are super about a good black and none of those no no no no no no. Black men are interested in black women. I believe the white women find somebody that can bring which shouldn't have to be a search.

So the other like black men have a search or do we just have it all over like we do get very good black women. I do like I tell you I feel like you guys have a ticket a bit. I mean, it's it's given fact that it's more women than men. You know, we sometimes we got to pick it up.

But sometimes they're coming up and boom. That's your woman looking for females and then they claim oh, there's none and then are or they always find the independent black female who's got everything going for her. So she got a good job. Education got a head on shoulder.

She does have any kids, but she clearly has opinions and that's too much like Oh, you're too opinionated. Like I can't really, you know, deal with that. I go get this white woman who's going to be more submissive. My thing is this though, don't go to space looking for a white don't go to space looking for a white but that's what a lot of black men do.

Yeah, but you but this is nothing though. Like if they're going to say that, then don't the same rules of government. Don't go to the hood looking for her. No, go you know what I'm saying?

Like don't know the same rules. That's not saying that you got to say in the higher black people go into society, the fewer we are around. Take that into account. The more money, the more education that a black person has, there are fewer of us around.

So like you like you the famous words you like to use. They choose. So the black million is going up earlier. Then you take it to account the interracial dating, you know, all been on both sides, black men and black women, few and far between.

So thank you. You got to look at it like that. Okay. So let's talk about this phenomenon.

Let's talk about this talk about. Let me let us talk about the black women that do have good job that do have a good head on their shoulders, but they're not interested in black men that could bring the same thing to the table. They want to fix they want to fix me about something to fix. We talk about the same dudes.

What? Yeah. Do we do it? Do we not have that?

What? What do we have that? Do we have that? Do we have that?

We have both sides though. Do same dudes. So I don't want to hold on a second. Hold on.

So what you're saying is there is female. I don't because I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't personally know that was because that's who's watching. I mean, I don't know anybody who I don't personally know these emails is really doing it. Thank you.

Don't wait. Wait. Wait. That's different.

Go. That's a whole that's two separate topics because me me being educated well, whatever the characteristic that you chose and then you claiming that I don't want somebody that what you proceed to bring to the table that I bring to the table because I'd rather have a fixer up or I don't think that's it because we're not in. There's no women that want to say do because there are women out there that that seem to think that's what they need to do and that's fine. And that's a whole different perspective.

They're like, if I'm not meeting somebody, but I decide, you know what, I'd rather spend all my money on this guy that rather sit in my own my couch all day. I'll feed him and I'll just pay him the count like some female like that. I don't know. Drake, I mean, I told you like I said, I I generally don't run in circles with women who trying to save men.

So I can't drink. Black women. We don't know. Yeah, clean it up because we don't somebody like black women, right?

Yeah, I thought the time I think about black women because I got that whole other time. Right. But I'm interested in knowing like, do you know any females black women like this personally? Um, yeah, so well, yeah, I'm gonna say I'm like, yeah, never to save it.

I would say never to save it. It's not like they don't have nothing but you know, they got more than a dude. And I mean, like financially educational wise, but they feel like they could break them up to the level that they're instead of just finding somebody that's at their level. Yeah, don't like never heard it before.

You say that's a dude with potential like that. It has a high weight. But for me though, there's no other thing that's potential for me is like for me. Yeah.

So what you're so you can say to somebody not like, okay, so if I'm with a dude and he's wherever he is right now and I'm there as well, we're saying level but then I get promoted and I'm doing better than he is. But I still know this guy and I have feelings for him. So I just want you to feel like because he's now with not at the same level, I should don't even find somebody who's perceived to be the same. That's not what I said it.

That's not what I said it. Oh, he said you're talking about your beginning. I'm talking about the beginning stages. You're talking about already.

What's up, buddy? You're talking about you going to the project picking up their doodle on the corner. They said, in front of the corner store, they said, hey, we'll say it yourself like that. And say, Oh, thank you.

And then I was trying to make a little person to do what I had to do. I was like, son, it went so far, you know, so I did. Look at these guys. Broke that dog.

Not me. My homie, but um, but yeah, so this time, wrong, they can grow and add children. Also, I get a laugh. Is it a different topic?

Yeah. Yes. Yes. Okay.

Sorry. Thanks. Yeah. It's really, yeah.

Okay. Now, you know, but you know, like in my opinion, maturity could be subjective and certain instances, like as far as like, how you like to watch people? I mean, like if you don't like people, you're not like, you're not having to get to speak to them. You're not having to do things for people if you don't want to.

Exactly. But as far as like being progressive, achieving goals and upgrading itself, I think that maturity is just something different. Like we don't want to dig grown as children. So who had this marriage with big grown as children on these lines?

Me. Talk on this. Oh, my lord. Where do I begin?

Um, they last long, but I definitely had the experience. You know, they first of all, you know, they never present as grown as children. You know, they always make it seem like they have way more going on than what they do. And you know, they kind of do just enough to pull you in and make it seem like they had itself together.

And maybe about a month or two, you start really not even that long, not even too much. Maybe I would say three, four weeks, you know, you start seeing certain signs and you're like, Oh, okay. And this person trying to, trying to use me. And you start seeing, you know, not want to go to work constantly changing jobs, only changing jobs.

At first, make it seem like they really interested in keeping the job, but they really not. Um, you know, I've even had one so boldness to ask me for money. And you know, that was like instant blocking. Yeah.

He was a breaking brain. No, I'm not breaking. Oh, y'all know, Drake, y'all know, that's tricky. Not tricky.

Not tricky. Keanu. Keanu. She's still there.

Where, where, Mr. Shaha. Oh, I mean, you can look at it at something different levels. I mean, from a male perspective, so far as dating, as you say, dating a strong child, it could just be the viewpoint in the world.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with the somebody who wants to take care of themselves, self-preservation and stuff like that. But those users, I do not like. I mean, yeah, we are supposed to provide and protect and take care of. But you got to have motivation to want something better in your life.

And you just want, okay, it goes back to, you know, you're just like a ratchet. Just people who know, okay, I just want to have a child of children and either, okay, set them up to get an SSI check or a child support or both. Like you had a dude who basically go from couch to couch and they're not by a check house. They banked by my miles.

They banked by a new check house. You know, when they realized stuff about to go shaky, they made sure they find a safe space by the land because they don't set up the next ship for the whole, you know. But the part of that is people who take care of these grown-ass kids, you know, you have to have a spirit of the sound of it to tell that something right about this dude or something right about this ship. I mean.

And that is true because I was saying like not making an excuse, but when I was doing the kind of stuff I was a lot younger and I feel like I was a little more naive. But now I feel like you wouldn't even get away two days with it. Like I can just start like I can't make it up quickly. Yeah.

So how do you pick that up though? Like what's the profile? Like just like the Sean said, typically a lot of them don't even have like their own place to stay. So that's like sign number one.

I know for me when I've had encounters with them, they want to move in with you quick, quick, quick. Like, oh, hey, you think I could come stay with you for a couple of weeks till this and you know, they got some kind of excuse of why they don't have them with a list. But again, like I said, excuse, it's just multiple different things. You know, that they tell you try to, so it's just like things like that.

It's just always signs there that if you really try to see the signs, you will. I'm always like to tell the story in my line of work of the guy who's basically his girl is going to work and he's in that home playing PlayStation and she finally get in time of it. So he realized, okay, my time he was about to be shown. So as he walk out the door, get my to the corner.

So we'll get my house house established and a honey bud in the big shot. He see this other kid who's playing with each other or whatever, they'll tell you whatever he's speaking. Hey, how you doing and stuff like that. Go to the store, get his house house.

I just put one of his honey bud. He's got this cool, right? Back across the court, see the girl again, playing with a child, get a little baby, a honey bud, basically getting good with the child. The next thing you know, he do that again.

He set up a little bit of a relationship with the other little chick. So when he finally get kicked out of his house, he has a song space to land and he goes off the cycle all over again. They got dudes who live like that because that's all they saw. They, they, it was like that.

They brothers was like that. They didn't even mean so. It's, it's, it's, it's if I want to say, you know, black community or people not being responsible. Little hiccups here and they are in the states and stuff for financial planning is one thing, but intensive living your life not wanting to get better, you know, post it up in the projects like and that's all I want.

And the next thing you know, you become a grande. That's how long you've been doing this life. Next thing you know, you got, you paid child support because you the guy serves up with times of child support. That's good for such a time.

So I know what you pay child support for a child. It's one of the years old because you never want to do that. What you like? You've been recognizing working jobs, cash on the table.

Next thing you know, you 60 years old, you can't do it. You're labor anymore. What can you do it? You got to look at all that type of stuff that they have, women who basically they mature, grown their skids.

Okay. So you live up, you have a child SSI, I would get welfare, exam third and they say, you know, what's up kids get out of the house, you can't get child support home anymore. So then you're like, okay, well, how do you know they child have a kid? Oh, let me keep my grande.

And they try to put, you know, get cash assistance for their grande. But if they have to work out, you 45 years old, you get your first legit job because you have the more kids to live off of it. It's just a sick cycle. Yeah.

I totally agree with both of you. They're just crazy that both of us on both sides have to deal with that. But we just can't, I think we'll be doing this service that we didn't mention that most of this stuff that we deal with today still for racism. True.

Not just racism, but like slavery as well. True. You know, just having somebody being used to somebody taking care of us or, you know, saying not being responsible for our kids or our women, you know, I think most of this stuff still some slavery. So before we take on, we're going to take home an intermission and then we're going to talk about more topics because Keanu got kicked off the line again.

But before we do that, I want to ask you guys about the difference between being friends and being friendly. I mean, and give me a little bit more specific. Like what's wrong? I mean, when somebody's a friend and that, you know, when she go down, they're the first person that you think about.

You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. They're the first person you think about like them. If I call this person, they're going to show up and it's not going to be a problem at all.

Where's somebody being friendly? Like some people I work with, some people are friendly, but they're not your friends. Right. Some people.

I don't know that a friend is more about that. Yeah, that's all it is. So she is. Yeah, so she is.

A friend like you said, a friend is someone who I feel like there's going to be there for me no matter what. I mean, obviously I look at a friend like even if I'm like, if I'm wrong, as in, I'm messing up with somebody somebody, somebody's going to tell me, now you know that's not right. You know, and know what is coming from a sense of place. Not a hate place like they generally care about me enough to say that Sean, you know better.

That Sean, you can do better. Or even sometimes like, okay, well, if this I work before you try this, you know, and that's what I look at as a friend. I mean, you know me, I don't call, I'm not quick to call somebody my friend. So, so, so dating your friends are good or bad ideas?

Bad don't date your friends. Wow, this is why I say because I said on nature because number one, you about to lose a connection if something or bad, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's my main thing. If that's your on the flip side, on the flip side of that though, you can gain some, you know, I'm saying the lover. If he's gonna write, okay?

Yeah, that's true. But why thing is this, that's your friend? And y'all was friends from the beginning, like it was no alter your motives for the beginning, then you know that person falls as well as their, you know, their benefits, you know, their good side. So I'm just looking at myself like, part of my time, I can sit on my friend.

I would never date because I know they fought as well as their good side and somebody falls, you know, like I said, in my friend's I love him, but somebody falls out. I wouldn't put up with it. So that's for me. I like him.

What about you? I would say it would depend upon like the time frame. I personally have never dated a friend, a doctor and I never have, but I think if it was like somebody, you know, who wasn't necessarily a childhood friend who we had like years and years and years and somebody I just made me make recently, you know, two, three year friendships and he developed into something more than I wouldn't be opposed to it. Because like you said, I mean, I see both you and the show inside like it could be something, you know, very drastic that happening.

You guys lose the relationship altogether or is attending to something really amazing. So it's like who's to say to, you know, why I guess why, you know, stop yourself from having something that could be potentially great. So I mean, I was saying I understand that, but like I said, I guess because I why, you know, the way my mental is set up. I don't take I challenge the people I call friends because I don't have friends.

I don't, you know, I don't like people. So if I could say that you were a friend, I want to keep you as a friend. And that's because like I said, I check, like your my friend I cherish you because I have not one of these people like, oh, hey, that's my friend over there. That's my friend over there.

Now it's type of stuff, you know, because then that's how mess your brother to your life because you just accepted everybody's energy into your circle. So like I said, the way I'm set up, I don't accept just anybody in my life. So if I consider your friend, that means that's something serious to me. So, so we're about to take this in a mission.

Just one more time. We're about to do this and we'll try to connect with you one more time and talk to you right guys right right there. Okay. Got you, Dre?

Yes, I'm here. Of course. Got to make a decision. Okay.

See what Keanu don't do. I'm saying out there in Kelli, you can make some bad out there in Kelli. Yeah, we got you back. Okay.

Alright, so this topic is we're gonna be talking about the hospital in Chicago and Mercy Hospital. One of Lopez, a 32 year old white Latino firefighter in the hospital and she has three people. One of them being his long-time fiance who recently broke over him. She was a black doctor.

So my question to you guys is is it and this is one of many incidents that happened with white men and black women when a white man comes to shoot a black woman. Is it dangerous for black women to dig interracially? Oh, is there just a white woman in general? I would agree.

As we were discussing last night, white men aren't the only men that are killing us. Keanu? So what happened was y'all went out and I heard her say white men is only Yeah, so my question was is it dangerous for black women to dig interracially? Is it dangerous to dig interracially?

Yeah, for black women. I think race has nothing to do with it. Okay, she's gonna make it again. Okay.

So I think this kind of intertwines with our grown-ass children topic. So like I said, no matter what the race of men, I think, you know, when women are dealing with immature men, grown-ass children as we like to call them, I think this is what happens. They are insecure. They are not able to let go, you know, a lot of this be a lot of these women at the real ticket and when they don't have their meal ticket anymore, you know, they, in fact, they just can't live with, you know, literally want to say, if I can't have you, nobody else will, you know, if that kind of thing.

And like if I don't take your life and do it, I just can't get up to do it. The maturity and the maturity of the man in the house of care he is within his own self. Because the man who's here and financially fabled, educated or whatever, he's not going to get a woman at the woman's station I want anymore. He's going to move on with it, because, you know, the other woman I hear that he can choose from.

And my thing is this, the fact he went to the hospital, quote unquote, with a friend to get the ring bang was just an excuse to get in our face. He could have got that ring bang some other way. He could have got that ring bang some other way. He could have took it a small class for the price of the one.

If that's what that was about. That was a control issue that was the best of violence and so on and so forth. I mean, it's, there was what I have seen that not just with white men, white Latino men, affluent, and I see that when African Americans sit in Asians, it's just a violence of, you know, other domestic abuse of broken people getting in relation to people that's a mental health issue. So Keanu, you know, Keanu?

Okay. So she disconnected again, but we can kind of stay here and roll in a little bit. But, you know, my thing is this though, you know, as far as like relationships, relationships, I agree with you guys that it can be kind of detrimental for black women to date or to be in relation to what a man, that we consider grown as kid. But, um, what I mean, the whole thing, like I said, it's a mental health thing.

It's, it's so, it's a, it's so many, the latest situation that you call it. Like as it's doing the diagnose, you know, having issue, the gun control issue, you don't know my guns. Hello, my son. Hello, my son.

I don't know about you, but I need to think about it is everybody don't have the mental capability to be a gun owner. Everybody don't have the mental capability to be in a relationship, especially a healthy one, because the thing about a healthy relationship, even when it ends, it ends healthy, everybody move on. There's no kids involved. Okay.

They say, you don't need to talk anymore with them. See each other publicly. How you don't want to go like that? But when you have situations like they want people to go, there's a difference between, okay, I feel this relationship is more insightful.

And then there's a control thing. You remember that the shooting in Chicago, he didn't say he was trying to get back. What's the doctor? He wants to quote, quote, get his engagement going back.

So he worked out with Hill Will from the beginning. Yeah. And why would you point out the gun to the hospital just to get your way back? There's true harm.

There's true. There's true. But you know, my thing is though, like, you know, when we talk about like bars, hospital concerts, and you know, all these places where you don't expect to get shot or murder, typically the perpetrator's of these men's killers are white males. Oh, yeah.

So why do you guys think that most people in the United States, if not the world, commit the most mass shootings? Because like the words you use privilege. Yeah, like I said, when we was talking about grown ass kids, we wanted to talk about okay, I said I'm going to be in a store better, but it's being a grown ass toddler, and I spoke, I can't get my way. So I'm going to call the helpline, I eat 911 to get what I want.

And if I don't get what I want that week, I'm just going to shoot everybody up because I'm from the temper town. Right. And it was really about him because I mean, he's a man shooting, generally. I mean, of course, definitely like John's day with the first and foremost, but a lot of the time, you know, when we hear these situations, that's the first thing they say is always something that they didn't get.

Yeah. You know, both of these people, they come from military backgrounds. So do you think that should be better, like mental evaluations for the military process? Yeah.

So many things should be some of the questions on the background checks on the evaluation, because we work in the military field. So I mean, actually the question that we use when they come into the emergency department and say, oh, I'm going through some of my work here myself on my day, this question is along those lines. Do you know, do you have a history in your family of this? How do you feel about certain situations?

Like, you know, ask question that, ask questions. Okay. Like if you want to get something accomplished, but somebody stops you from getting what you wanted to accomplish. And you feel they're wrong for stopping you.

How do you handle the situation? I mean, I can't be exactly detailed on the question, maybe, but stuff along the lines. How do you handle adversity? Questions along those lines, because all these men's shootings, all these call them 911, all of us for the reason, because they can't handle adversity.

So, Drake, what do you think? I mean, I, I, my sentiments are pretty much dishaunable exactly. No, really, no different. I feel in that family.

Now, this next topic I want to talk about, but I just want to talk about it briefly. That's why I want to go one question about it. It's the LGBT community. And lesbianism, being a lesbian somebody, I send you this, that's near and dear to my heart, like I said, in names where they say lesbianism equals portraits of men directly or indirectly.

Now, can you agree or disagree with this thing? I disagree. I look at the top of the morning. It's just that simple.

There's, it's, it's not the next call you over. Like, either you are going to be there or you're not. And I mean, I understand that, okay, sexuality is a spectrum. You know, homosexual, transsexuals, pansexuals, all that type of stuff.

But my thing is, nobody can turn you into something that you're not doing. So, we're talking about just as far as lesbian, correct? Yeah. I would have to agree with that statement.

And simply because I have a couple of close friends who are, it's just funny that we are talking about this because I just spoke to this person on Saturday. I kind of had like a little girl, right out at my house and we just, we just got to kind of pretty much how we do it now. And this particular friend, she is a lesbian because of all the different experiences she had with her children's dad. And so she just turned to women.

And so it's not that she's really a lesbian. She's just doing this because this is the person who's treating her the way she wants to be treated and making her feel a certain happiness at the moment. And she even said herself, you know, it's like she's still with one that traditional family, you know, white, pick your friends, husband, children, you know, she's like, she can never see herself marrying this girl. She's just really in it because the girl is, you know, doing things for her and making her happy at the moment.

Well, my thing is this, in order for her to consummate the relationship, you have to have some type of attraction. And I'm saying, you know, my thing is that attraction, even if it was underlying, it was them because I know other women who have had hell with men. You know, men have messed up over from forever, but they still wouldn't. That's what women.

So that's what I'm saying. I think it is this sexuality of school and some people because they have other line of attraction to both sexes. My question for you, from the why wouldn't she marry? Because of what society may think of her for Marion, a lesbian, you know, coming out of his own true lesbian or what is it?

According to what she told me, she said it's just, it's because she knows that she liked men and she wants a lesbian. She said she would always consider her, you know, a great friend and a great person, but she said she just can't ever see herself marrying her. And I think some of it may have to do with society because one of the things she did bring up is she does have two young children, two young daughters, both under age of five. And, you know, she was saying she doesn't want to have to explain to them her relationship.

And she was saying because of the oldest one, I think who was maybe like four, she just made four or so she said she's already starting to ask questions. And she said she was kind of diverse, the question, you know, she don't really, basically she don't really answer them because she doesn't want to have to explain that to her. That was the answer that she gave me. And see, and that's, like I said, that's what I'll go to the fact that from my experience, these people are born this way.

They may not have been completely homosexual, but they had some other line of traction to the opposite sex and sex at the same time. I mean, I look at it as just like with dudes that are down low, but don't, oh, yeah, dudes that are down low and they have dudes who are bisexual. And, you know, trying to tell you one of my biggest painters is you're attracted to both sexes that you're part of that way. You don't have to sneak around and stuff like that.

You know, myself, for each and for their times was always if you really homosexual and you don't want to be a women, leave to women alone for the people who are attracted to them. Who do want to? Yeah, I feel that because you know, you know, and nothing here is we don't really need, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, like my best friend, she's a lesbian and I know people that are homosexual and I don't have a problem with homosexuals, but I do have a problem with it.

It's not the law, the person population, we don't need that. Sorry. Give the woman a choice. Give the woman a choice.

I mean, like I said, just like what woman? If she is bisexual, okay, let the dudes you're dating know, yeah, I'm bisexual, I'm attracted to one as well as men. Now, that means, okay, I'm not going to cheat on you, I'm going to be faithful to you, but I'll just let you know how I'm built. That's just like a conversation you have when you get a know person, like I also asked what I was going to do, or what about past relationships.

Put that information out there, don't hide it, don't let it be a surprise and stuff like that. I guess my thing is to be honest. And like I said, you know, great with your friend. It's just a matter of she has to be honest with us, I probably always been attracted to women on the slick because, you know, for you to quote unquote, child lesbian, like I said, they had to have something though.

Now, do you ask her, could I never ask her to try it for Saturday? I asked her was this person who she went, her first encounter with another woman, and she said no, it was not. She had kind of dab in high school. I mean, so something was wrong with her.

Yeah. I mean, don't get it wrong. She had for a choice, how a choice it is. A male, but she don't mind, they don't know if female push from the show.

I mean, that's what I'm saying is I'm a woman because I know, and they had too many women, like I said, guys, that's what I'm left at right. But they still mess up with that. And they have some women, one guy coming over, okay, I'm going with women because he was always attracted to them. Like I said, just be honest.

Honest with yourself. But you know, as far as I let's go, you know what, I don't get no like lesbians, they got dibbros. Like, if you really are too attracted to women, why don't you just say that? Well, okay, if I heard you correctly because he was kind of going in and out.

I mean, the human body is still a human body. So, in order for things to be achieved, you still have to have penetration and all that type of stuff. So, they can't be helped. So, whether that gets, not really know what me about the G-Spiders inside.

So, in order to get in there, that's what I'm saying. But she's still is attracted to women. Meaning the person that is being penetrated still wants to be with a woman. I mean, she's still with please, you know, like, okay, I want to phrase this white.

Okay, you talk about the stuff, the masculine person in the relationship, you're going to strap on to please the feminine person in the relationship. But you're still going to take it to account that the feminine person in the relationship still will give pleasure to the masculine person in the relationship without the other person. So, I'll be there still a matter of if she is attracted to women. She's fine with women.

Attractive. She like breasts, she like hips. She like, you know, stuff like that. So, switching topics because I'm just going to stay on their phone just a little bit.

Just want to talk about that a little bit. I was going to get in and get out of it. Our last topics are going to be the mental health and the black community. Now, we all we're going to be on this phone right now.

So, I got to ask you how something. How do you manage your self care? Well, y'all know for me, I do a lot of pamper in myself. Shopping, as far as pamper, what I can say to pamper, not shop vacation.

Vacation is that's important to me, especially like I said in our line of work. We have to take our own mental health. Yes, you will burn out very, very quickly if you don't do self care things for yourself. So, you just have to, I mean, everybody, you know, everybody, they make them happy.

So, I definitely have to be in tune with yourself and know how to properly take care of yourself. Otherwise, you will become just as crazy. Well, I don't, for myself, self care is listening to music, spending time with my wife, you know, working out what I can and just, like I said, my main release is like, dealing with music and like, that's it. The little music and spending time on my wife.

Whether it has just, you know, laying up watching TV or her reading a book and I'm just laying right there on the phone, going out and hanging out and stuff like that. Also calling in calling this sick because you're sick mentally. So we don't call this sick. You like to say you need that.

I think it works a couple of jobs before where they gave us. It was designated meant to you could call in and say, Hey, look, I need a little help. They say that's important. You know, I told it.

We're, you know, I take my eyes on Sunday and my whole thing is I like being with my family on Sunday. They drinking coffee, talking. You know, I'm saying I'm going to get you my people. I mean, that's relaxing to me.

They working out every day. Working out low. Working out. I mean, that's the thing about it.

We all need that, you know, whether it's time to yourself or we connect them with your loved ones, you do need that. It feels, it feels like your tank. And, you know, good. It's just so important because you look at some of the people we deal with.

These people are, I'm talking about like the food sequence now. These people have jobs, families that they maintain, but they don't have that break. And then plus add on top of that, the chemical imbalances they have in their brain. And if it goes unchecked, they wind up with us.

And then you have some people who have those same chemical imbalances in their brain and they will come see us. Don't get to want to go to their doctor, get their medication, they do their therapy and stuff like that. Because they have other outlets. They're able to keep themselves regulated.

So, so care is very important for them. Totally agree. So, you guys have a counselor or a psychiatrist? No, I don't, but I want one.

I just haven't had the actual, the free time to, you know, go and sit down and seek someone. But I can honestly say that I would love a counselor. Okay. I haven't had one in years, but I am getting ready to look for one just for like you say that.

The one thing I love about counselors, the reason why I recommend them to people is you want to be able to vet to somebody, somebody healthy process. But they have no emotional connection involved in your situation. They basically have nothing to gain from your situation. So, those, I mean, you know, some people go to the past though.

Some people go to a family member best friend or whatever. But those people still have something to gain from your mental, from your mental health. That in some cases, they could, you know, that could be the person you need to talk about. And counseling.

So, counseling is very important. And they're saying that I wanted to find one down here. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I have one of course, but, you know, I still got, you know, we've got some Kings because, you know, I'm going to go a lot of times. Yeah. That's not the best way to be, you know, so I have either one of you.

I was at the mother's. Oh, yeah. That was all because you know, a father or two were biological. One, you know, step child and the fact of being separated with them and then affected the cause of the divorce.

That was real stressful on me. It had me down with myself for the things of that nature. So that's when, you know, counseling really brought, you know, helped me out. And let me see something that I shouldn't accept so far as like myself working things and that, you know, we talk about the whole whole diet.

And the council wasn't what I thought about that up to me because I was accepted on that. I shouldn't accept so far as like, because I was so sorry for affection, you know, maybe the affection that I was just basically taking anything. And by being on the council and I realized myself working and once I realized myself working, got myself together, then I was ready to love again. And I was able to find my wonderful wife.

So counseling helped with that whole situation. I probably would even go ahead. I would say I probably would even go out now if you want to find out what the council. That's good.

Good. So much. And I wouldn't say that I'm suffering like to a great extent. I do.

I definitely do believe that I suffer from like, just general anxiety. But I think that's just dealing with everyday stresses, you know, nothing, nothing real serious. Never had to deal with it. Like I said, greatly with my own mental health, but definitely with family members.

My dad family, we have lots of family members who suffer from mental illness. So it's something that I've had to learn how to deal with and cope with my entire life. Just close family members. Well, well, let me share this with you.

I think I told you before, like I suffered with depression. But my grandmother and father died within a year of each other. I was really struggling. Just, I was just in a bad place because, you know, both of these people were very important in my lives and they just felt abruptly.

I just felt like I was just going to do everything around me. And, you know, and I went like my grandmother died. I cried for like seven days straight. I really didn't want to go to work.

I didn't want to go to school. I would just cry and cry and cry and cry. And even when I was at school, I was at work. I'd take a break and go to the bathroom to cry because I missed it so much.

And almost the same thing with my dad. I was going the same way. And I was very depressed with him too. But eventually I got over it and overcame.

So that brings me to another topic too. Do you think that we as black people would suffer from the disease? Yes. Yes.

I think we all need counseling. Some way, shape or form. And that's the saddest part about it is because, you know, we're talking around the phone. We're already as far as believing we need counseling.

You know, most black people don't believe they need counseling. They'll never admit it. And you know, when you ask them about, oh, I don't want to go talk to no shrink. And that's the first thing they say.

And I'm like, well, okay. But that's why we have so many problems in our community because we just don't feel like there's anything wrong with us. And there's a lot wrong with us. I mean, my thing is all the topics we have discussed tonight to be all still goes back to the 12th.

And that's how they're believing our community need or living with not only the scores from the modern times that we live in. But we have genetic scars because of the slavery train and things for that nature that we still need to deal with. You know, mental health issues is an ID and they because we're a scarred people. Don't get it wrong.

We have to overcome it as an individual and stuff like that because we take up on ourselves to get treated from the health issues and other saying to realize that it's not normal for me to feel the anxiety that I feel. I shouldn't have to worry about, okay, I got to bring my government me because I want to my mom out. I'm worried about. Yeah.

I'm just like driving the work and police officer pulled behind me. I'm like, okay, what am I pleased? It helps me to be minded. It's good to see me get where we're going to go.

I'm like, oh, you want to my place and he's going to find out. Why should I have a feeling? You know, I'm like, you know, I'm like, you know, we have to go to all the daily basis. I mean, just like I say, like, you know, what I leave my other job and I go pick up my wife, and I'm, you know, I was parked outside her office building and like, please don't submit parents, whatever.

And in my mind, I'm automatically like, I wish you would tell me something. I have right to be here. That's like, this dude is not worried about me. But in my mind, I'm already ready for conflict.

Yeah. The thing about it, that's the difference. And that's when we try to explain to white people when they don't understand, well, why do you feel like we're, bro, they killing us and they've been killing us for a long time. So we are automatically defensive when they cover certain situations like that.

So when you call down on one of us, because you don't think you need to be staying in your building or give your coffee or get roasted at the store or selling water or things like whatever. We're going to take a week on that or the person that you call. Yeah. Yeah.

That's what I was saying. Like, if I'm a person talking about the white person talking about what I'm going to be, I'm going to have it right there. Like, like, you're not going to get a chance to explain your story. Like, you're going to be, you're going to be out.

Because you're going to get a chance to call 911 because that's like, that's like, you're trying to get me killed. Like, you know what I'm saying? Are you going to try to put me in a line of play? You just never know how these officers mindsets are.

You know, most of them probably got like, connection of white supremacists groups or whatever it gets in. They may be ready to just, you know, they might be ready to kill you all time. I'm not having it. I'm just going to be right there.

That's why I'm out there. Because like I said, we automatically go on to those outlets when it comes to law enforcement, you know, because of what we have dealt with. Like I said, that officer, they'd be trying to get a frequent donut. This was pretty good.