Turning Heat Into Light

When the pressure is on, do you shut down or shine up? In this powerful convo, Sarah Jakes Roberts sits with Dr. Sarah Elizabeth Lewis and Dr. Anita Phillips to talk creativity, the gift of failure, and how to separate your work from your worth. They unpack why dreaming can feel risky right now, how to handle pressure without losing your identity, and what it means to build on what broke. From "turning heat into light" to seeing art as a path toward justice, this episode will meet you where it hurts and remind you there is purpose in your process. If you've been grieving a job loss, navigating a creative dry spell, or questioning your next move, press play and get language, wisdom, and courage for the season you're in. Keywords: Sarah Jakes Roberts, Dr. Sarah Elizabeth Lewis, The Rise, Dr. Anita Phillips, creativity, failure, resilience, faith, mental health, Black women, vision and justice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices