EPISODE · Sep 23, 2025 · 43 MIN
Turning Problems Into Solutions with Ashley DeKerlegand, Director of CE and CX Enablement @ QuickBase
from SaaS Therapy · host BrainStorm
In this episode of SaaS Therapy, Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo welcome back Ashley DeKerlegand to discuss the Action Mapping framework, a method for enhancing customer education and driving behavior change. The conversation explores the importance of measurable goals, the challenges faced in customer education, and the need for cross-functional collaboration. Ashley shares real-life examples of implementing Action Mapping, emphasizing the significance of empathy and understanding in the learning process. The episode concludes with actionable takeaways for listeners to apply the framework in both personal and professional contexts.TakeawaysAction Mapping focuses on behavior change rather than just knowledge.Measurable goals are essential for effective training.Collaboration across teams enhances the learning process.Empathy is crucial in understanding learner challenges.Transforming obstacles into opportunities is key to success.Real-life applications of Action Mapping can drive significant results.Avoid information dumps; focus on observable actions.Executive sponsorship is vital for implementing new frameworks.Understanding the 'why' behind actions leads to better outcomes.Action Mapping can be applied in various contexts, including personal life.Contents00:00 Intro 2:34 Action Mapping Framework Explained5:42 Real-World Applications & Challenges10:36 From Busywork to Measurable Impact15:19 Shifting from Order-Takers to Advisors19:20 Executive Sponsorship & Cross-Team Alignment24:41 Turning Problems Into Solutions30:57 Practical Examples & MVP Learning39:18 Why Action Mapping Works41:26 Wrap-Up & Homework AssignmentResourcesConnect with CaseyConnect with ToddVisit the show pageGet to know BrainStormCreditsShow direction: Debra WilsonShow design: Kensie SmithShow manager: Jenna Mollinet
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