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EPISODE · Jan 2, 2026 · 45 MIN

Turns out… the peaks turn into moguls (Ep. 15)

from Turns Out: A Sobriety Podcast · host Brian Shoberg

Learn to level out. Take the peaks and valleys and turn them into something steadier. In this one we interrogate Jake. Then talk urges, boredom, living amends, the weight of grief, and what it takes to let the inside finally match the outside.00:00 – Dinosaur debates and Jurassic Park theology02:09 – “Have you craved alcohol in the last month? Walk me through the first 90 seconds.”03:11 – Sunday triggers, boredom, and how naps and batting cages became tools07:28 – “The deepest part of sobriety for me is being the same on the outside as I feel on the inside.”08:54 – Learning to share feelings instead of lashing out — and how unfair it still feels18:14 – “What do you do with the pain you caused?” Grief, repair, and new tools31:02 – From peaks and valleys to moguls: character defects shrink, gratitude growsNeed help? Find your local AA or Celebrate Recovery group. Or email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠.

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