Turtle Talk Podcast Episode 005: Outliers, Recovery, and the Spirit of Classic Trend

Join Rich, Adam and Jerry — this month joined by two special guests from the deep south — Bruno Campos (Brazil) and Andrés Petrocelli (Argentina) — as we explore the recovery phase in trend following and what sets outlier hunters apart from the rest. Note: Due to connection issues, Andrés was only able to join us for the introduction of the session. We look forward to having him back in a future episode for the full conversation. Bruno, a macroeconomist turned systematic investor, shares his journey from economic models to embracing uncertainty. We dig into the June trend following reports, challenge assumptions about diversification, and reflect on how outlier strategies diverge from vol-controlled approaches. In this episode: 📉 Battle of the Trend Following Indexes: June saw a bounce across the board — but will the recovery be V-shaped? 🌾 What’s Moved the Needle: Grains collapse, metals surge, and bitcoin breaks out — with feeder cattle stealing the show 🔍 Outlier Hunting vs. Vol Control: Are some managers slowing their own recoveries by taming tail risk? 🎯 Spotlight on Bruno Campos: From factor research to trend conviction — an economist’s pivot to price 💬 Mythbuster with Jerry Parker: “Is the S&P a good trend following system?” Jerry says absolutely not — and here’s why. 🎙️ Plus: Adam questions mixed mandates, Rich defends idiosyncratic exposure, and Jerry plots his next myth to slay. 📚 Coming Soon: The Aussie Turtles Trend Following Guide is nearly here — our flagship book of trend following philosophy, process, and practice. Stay tuned for the release! 📩 Got questions for the pod? Send them in: 🔗 https://www.aussieturtles.com/contact-us/ 🌐 Catch episode details and more at: https://www.aussieturtles.com/turtle-talk/ 📊 Reports discussed: • Battle of the Trend Following Indexes – June 2025 • Rising Stars and Trend Titans – June 2025 #TrendFollowing #TurtleTalk #SystematicTrading #AussieTurtles #OutlierHunter #ClassicTrend #JerryParker #BrunoCampos #AndresPetrocelli #MomentumEdge #QuantInvesting