It's about all night. I was ripping lines of stupid bills. I was crushing them up and I mixed it with some other stuff. I don't know.
I mixed it with some negligence violence. All right. I think we're good now. Give me a little bit.
A, A, 1, 2, 1, 2. Hey, it seems today that all you see is violence in movies and sex on TV. 1, 2. Yeah, you got that go, I'll get it.
Do it again. Hell yeah. We're snapping. We're in time.
We're in the same room. We're feeling good. We're welcome to. And we're going to be in peace.
Something I never thought about. What? That song, that intro music. I bet Thanos would love that song.
Just blinking people in and out of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's a car reappearing in the universe. Have you ever thought maybe Thanos was right? In sort of like a sick, twisted, dark way? Yeah, kind of.
Kind of. Kind of. Sort of like a dark purple way. Yeah.
Sort of like a deep purple way. Yeah. He's a big purple guy. He is with a big sort of scrotomy chin.
Yeah. Craggier than like a cold scrotum. Yeah, yes. Yes.
Titan buff. That's right. Titan T-I-T-A-N, right? He's a bit of a mad titan himself.
And that's the kind of stuff you're going to hear on. And twin peaks. Yeah. We're kind of nerds.
We're kind of into some of that nerd culture. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. You're going to not be a nerd.
Can you try letting people enjoy things? Could people let people enjoy things? The answer is no. I know you're on a big not being mean about stuff, kick.
Me. Yeah. You're trying to be more Cooper-esque, I suppose? I am trying to be more Cooper-esque.
It's really only for my own sanity, because everything else in the world is so bad that I'm actively seeking things that I like. And if I feel like we're doomed to, right? Yeah. It's not like it's a big spectacle movie, and I enjoy myself at the cinema.
So I'm on an act. So I was like, I'm on a rack. I love it, right? But I know like people are like, this movie kind of sucks.
And I can't argue with them. I enjoyed it. Yeah. But like I just wanted to have a fun time at the movies.
Those are two different metrics. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks versus I enjoyed it.
Yeah. This is what we talk about when we talk about the letter box reviews. It's like something can get two stars and get the like. Yes.
Right? Correct. So I'm just trying to find more things that I enjoy, and then the things that maybe I would enjoy is see if there's anything in there that I enjoy. You know?
Yeah. I like that. I like that. Again, it's only for my own sanity, because the world is awful.
And if I sink into that, it's all over for me. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. I'm also trying to be more Cooper-esque.
Cooper-like Gary Cooper. Visual joke. Strong silence. Yeah.
I made a hushing sound and also flexed my bicep. Strong silent type. What did it happen? You did it.
The Gary Cooper. Which Japanese you did it. You did it. You did it.
I love what Tony Soprano said several times throughout the series. Like what happened to the Gary Cooper types? Straight Cooper homosexual? Homosexual?
Is that right? Rock Hudson. Rock Hudson. Maybe that's one thing.
I don't know about Gary Cooper. OK. Fuck. Who's the other guy?
His girl Friday. I've never seen. I don't even know what that is. You're not talking about Tony Perkins, are you?
No, no. Gary Grant. Gary Grant? Gary Grant?
I know that. Well, he may have been bisexual. There's rumors of that. Also, Gary Grant, who was big, like, SARS in the 40s, like, you know, of that era, got into heavy into LSD and shit.
Pretty sick. Really fucking blew out his mind and expanded his consciousness towards the end of his life. So that's pretty cool. That's cool.
Yeah. What do you know about that? Yeah. But we're not necessarily talking about it.
We're talking about a different man in suit with perfectly co-op-tare named Cooper. Not particularly strong, certainly not silent. No. And definitively attracted to beautiful women.
Well, yeah. Also, I mean, David Lynch, another guy who is perfectly co-op-parent. Yeah. Really not silent.
No. Quite not silent. Yeah, him writing himself a little smooch with me. Yeah.
So two, actually. I do they ever actually touch lips. That's a good question. Because it looks like they do, maybe.
But it is from, like, kind of an over the shoulder angle from both sides. And it's never an even two shot. I don't know if I actually do it. Yeah.
He does say, get used to it, Junior, because it's going to happen again or something. Yeah. Well, that's really funny. That's funny.
Yeah. I don't know. The first time I watched the series, I kind of felt the same thing. Like, look at this fucking guy.
He's running the show here. And he's like, maybe Cole kisses a Shelley. He probably does, right? We probably should.
We all agree. The audience is expecting it. He's writing fake fan mail. It's just letters all day.
Just like, why hasn't Cole kissed Shelley yet? Cole is an attractive older man. She would be attracted to him. Yes, the narrative structure of this show should be Mobius' stress instead.
Yeah, that's all really good. Let me down a rabbit hole of looking into, like, me genomics, like, personal life. Like, what? Is she ever married with him?
She's single? What's her deal? Yeah. I was trying to find out if he can beg an amic.
I can't beg an amic. She has been married since 1995. Wow. To the same man.
I haven't met him up before he's a musician. I can't remember. Like, David Alexis, I want to say, is his name. But they met in 1987, got married in 1995, and been together ever since.
They have two kids together, and he writes and dedicates songs to her all the time. Wouldn't you? Yeah. She's very beautiful.
I mean, come on. Do you think maybe you're just the man to put an end to all this nonsense? What if he wrote a better song? If you like, Sally Ary style went insane, trying to write a song to win match an amic art.
I deep dive into David Alex's music, and try and cut it apart. Or you simply write diss tracks about him. Maybe I'll write diss tracks about him. Kiss tracks about her.
Too pronged approach. A pincer movement. Oh, a temporal pincer movement? That's another one.
I would love to talk about that movie because it's impossible. I haven't seen it. I have no interest in seeing it. I don't like Chris for Nolan.
No, you, I totally, again, this is another one where I'm like, yeah, I don't blame you. You should watch it because visually it looks good. Yeah. It's all a gobbledygote.
Sure. The first half, I think I understand this forwards backwards nonsense. And then after that, it just spirals out. And you're like, I am lost.
OK. All right. But like, just go on mine. Just having my brain sort of scrambled a little bit.
I watched the movie just for the visuals and kind of the brain scrambling of it. I'm like, I know I'm not going to figure this out. And that's totally fine with me. I did see an interview with him recently where he was like, you're actually not supposed to figure my movies out.
And it feels like a little Monday morning quarterback. I meant to do that. You meant to be bad at this. I have tried to figure it out.
And I think that there are massive holes in it. Which I imagine occurs when you're dealing with forwards backwards time nonsense. Yeah. But that's also fine.
It's sort of like explained away and like, oh, they're running a temporal pincer movement. Oh, of course. We all know what that is. No further explanation needed.
I do think like what makes me think it's bullshit on his part is like, right? You chart it. It's like Memento is like, there's a logic to it. There's a pretty followable logic.
Yes. And then Inception, same sort of thing. Maybe you're getting a little in the weeds here. But it's just like he keeps trying to like, I don't know about one up himself.
He's like, what? I kind of come up with a new crazy idea. Yeah, it does feel like he is trying to come up with just like. So actually Christopher Nolan, you're a con artist and a fraud.
No, I mean, but that's fine. I want filmmakers to be. I agree. PT Barnums, you know, where they're like, a sucker's born every minute.
Show me something that happens to me. Make a sucker out of me. 100%. This is like what we were before we started talking.
I mean, recording. We were talking. We were talking. Before we started talking, we were just staring at each other.
I'm so glad you spoke up. We were talking about the difference between like a charming actor and a charismatic one. Like basically like the comp was Schwarzenegger, charismatic, Jason Momoa, simply charming. And I do think it's just like a playing it safe kind of.
It's like an economic hedge, right? Like, it's just you can't take. No one can afford to take chances anymore. You can't, unless you're Christopher Nolan, basically.
You have to be at that level. You have to be anointed. Right. You have to be a director that people go to your movie because you're the director.
Yeah. And Sainzie, I don't even know how much power any of these people actually have. But you go to see a Sworzezi movie or like a Tarantino's another one. It's like an event, right?
But then like there's so many people. Fewer and fewer of those, right? It's like the pipeline Marvel did kind of divert the pipeline of like interesting up-and-coming filmmakers. And it's like ruin them?
Basically. They're like, I got this whole farm team that I'm pulling from. Yeah. I'm going to be too much money and I'm going to start to fail.
How about I bury you? And by the end of this experience, you're just going to want to wallow in that money anyway. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, even like Greta Girlwig is kind of going that way too. Right? It's like, what?
Greta Girlwig? Yeah. Right. She's done the Barbie movie and now she's doing Narnia?
Oh, is she? She's Greta Girlwig's Narnia. Yeah. Yeah.
Is Noah Bombak also helping? You know, are they collaborating? Are they writing it together? I don't actually know.
Yeah. Because like, I don't know. Because Noah Bombak is no business writing a Narnia adaptation. Do you like Noah Bombak?
He seems like the kind of guy that you would hate. Honestly, I'm not super familiar. So I can't judge. Yeah.
I won't judge. You never watch like Squid and Whale or? No. In fact, that's the kind of thing where I see the name I'm like, I'm not watching a movie and then after a gift shop in a gentrified neighborhood, Squid and Whale.
Are you going to buy a pencil for $15 here? That's amazing. Yeah. No, I haven't seen Squid and Whale.
Try and think if there's any Noah Bombak movie I have seen, in fact. That's a Greenberg. I mean, Marriage Story. I haven't seen Marriage Story.
Marriage, as a child of divorce, that's actually really hard for me too. As a husband of divorce. An adult of divorce. Yeah, I watched Marriage Story in between phases of like having agreed to separate and having not moved out.
Out of crap. Which was good for you. This real sweet spot of why did I do this to myself? Yeah.
You shouldn't have done that. You should have been watching. That's when you should have been watching Conan the Bar of Air. You know what?
Sometimes, I don't know if I'm sure other people do this. But I'll have a sad or depressed feeling. And I will want to experience other sad and depressed things, music or movies or whatever. Sort of as an emotional enema to get it out.
That's interesting. Just sort of like flood it. Break the crank the sensor so that you can't even feel it. It's also like, I think also what's happening is like, because it's still Twin Peaks.
Yeah, we're still talking Peaks. But I do think there's an element of like, they're articulating how you feel. And also then dramatizing it so that you feel insane. Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just maxing you out. Right. You're sad maxing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Marriage story is a good movie, though.
I like how it does capture like sort of the this weird sort of so many movies about like divorce or whatever. It's like, oh, I hate this person and whatever. And there are scenes of that. But then there are also scenes where they're like very sweet to each other.
And it's just like, that's kind of how it is. It's just like, that's what makes life so goddamn hard, isn't it? It's never so cut and dry. It's just like I hate you.
Right. Which I think is like a problem with other people who do think in black and white terms, right? Republicans like all of them. Where they're like, no, everything is either this way or that way.
And you're like, nothing is that way. Literally nothing in the world is that way. I heard something very interesting on a podcast, if you believe that. They were talking about like German culture, right?
And they were like Germans love rules, but only making other people follow. And I was like, that's a bigger, that's like that may be true. But also like, I know so many people like that. Yeah.
Right? I think that's just a human tendency. Yes, I think it's an easy default to falling to. It's like, oh, well, we have these rules that everybody has to follow.
I don't have to follow them because like I know them. Right. And like I know the way I know them. I invented the rules.
So I'm pretty sure I'm living it. I'm good. I'm good. All right.
Maybe sometimes I will, but I'll do what I want. But you can't do it. Yeah. You have to follow the rules.
It is insanity. Speaking of insanity. What that frickin? What's his name?
Yeah, that Windameral. That Windameral. Or they'll call him Caleb Wind. What about Ted Raimi?
Yeah. Right? Didn't even realize I was him until he said it. But that's him.
That's him. Fantastic Mr. Fox I have seen. Also.
Oh, he wrote it, I guess. Also though, definitely came out in 2009. If I never was a Fox, isn't I fucked up? No.
That's what it said on Wikipedia. Oh, no. That's why it said on Wikipedia. Time commissor is all up.
I know. That is the kind of thing. We should have the Grim Reaper on as a guest. Yeah.
Right. Like my letter box. I log all the movies because I like to keep track of what I've seen and whatever. Going back and looking at something.
I'm like, oh yeah, when was I? I was not going to watch whatever. And I go back and I remember sitting there watching that. When was that?
Oh, that was two years ago? Yeah. Oh, no. That's fucked up.
I had to do the... Well, when I was in college, I guess it was 15 years ago. Oh, yeah. Gross.
Yeah. And I didn't care for that one bit. I should go back to college. So I can be like, when I was in college now.
Yeah. I'm going back to school thing. Yeah. Everyone loved that guy.
Yeah. I'm sure. I have no idea how old Ronnie Dangerfield was in that movie. Probably 35.
Yeah. Looked like Holy Hell. Yeah. All right.
Well, this is just another instance of him getting no respect. I mean, he called. I'll tell you what, I put on a podcast the other day. This said I looked 35.
But bad. This is not my best joke. All right. You want to talk?
Oh, she gets sued by the danger field estate for doing Ronnie AI special. Be a good bonus episode. Yeah. When is it going to, when can we do that?
Like when is it going to be at the point where you're like, AI, make a new Ronnie Dangerfield special? Well, they tried it with George Carlin. Did you hear about that? No.
No, I'm not. This is a setup. Will Sasso got a cease and desist from the George Carlin estate for making a George Carlin AI special. And as with all things AI, it turned out to mostly or completely not be true where they were like, well, we can't use George Carlin archival footage because that would be like a clear wall breaking endeavor.
Yeah. And then it turned out that at least they're alleging after the fact that they didn't actually use AI to generate the special that someone just wrote it. That feels a bit like covering their asses. But they basically just at worst, they chat JPT, a George Carlin thing and then use like a text to speech thing, which has existed like for years and years.
Like, yeah, it's a fraud. It's a big goofy fraud. AI in general. Yes.
Yeah. Okay. Twin Peaks. Come on.
We're talking of course about season two episode, what is this like, 19 or something? Episode 19. Variations on relations. Nice rhyming title.
Yeah. Good. Is good. What's the title referred to?
I have no idea. Me neither. So we pick up kind of where we left off. We're back at the Owl Cave.
Yes. Andy says, you take a few steps in here. You can't tell if it's daytime or nighttime. And I'm going to write Andy.
Yeah, it's right. Spot on. Did you like this episode? Yeah, I did.
I like this episode. Honestly, minus the wind of our old stuff. Of course. Wind of our all is a drag.
However, I do like the final shot of the giant chess piece. As stupid as it is. It's so stupid. It's really dumb.
But I just like, I think I just like how, I like how I like the makeup on the corpse there. Yeah. I mean, it's all very stupid. It's stupid, but it's like, at least it's like, it's got the like weird sort of like David Lynch like floodlighting on it.
You know? Yeah. But yeah, it's stupid. It's dumb.
Paper mache, chess piece. And his whole character to it. Yeah, like it's some like doofy roadie or something. So I feel like that is like a costume, like a wind of moral costume.
Right? Right? He's like, all right, put this on. Yeah.
He's basically dressed as like one of the guys who gets put in the cage in hocus pocus. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like what's the name?
Ice. Yeah. And the other guy? Yeah.
There's a real rash of burnout skitsoids. Yeah. Yeah. Getting trapped by man villains back then.
Yeah. They were just sitting ducks. Oh my God. Yeah.
Yeah. It's most of me extremely cute. More of a laying seal. All right.
Okay. Focus. Al-Cave. So they go back to where they found those markings and it's like, oh, looks like somebody already did our work for us.
They were going to break it open and whatever. But it's already, when we left off last, wind of moral had already done that. Yes. There's like a full petroglyph now that we're seeing.
Yes. It's a petroglyph. I don't know. It's like a glyph.
It's a glyph. Glyph to his friends. So Cooper tells Andy to, you know, draw, take a marking of it and we're going to have to recreate this back in the station so we can look at it and whatever. In the meantime, right?
There's that scene at the double R where we see Bobby talking to Shelley. I haven't seen Bobby. I know. Bobby had another idea.
It took a few days. Yeah. I think the last time we saw Bobby was in Ben Horns' ring. It's a simple word.
I came out of it. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess that didn't pan out for him.
I guess not. Like he got fired once Ben Horn. Yeah. Once he like regained insanity.
Yeah. Wait a second. I couldn't possibly have hired you. Yeah.
I mean, Cascam is to have Shelley enter the beauty pageant and win the beauty pageant. Yeah. He's like beautiful people get whatever they want. And he's like, Shelley, you're beautiful.
And it is. Shelley is like, I don't want to marry her waitress. And then later on when their girls are like all signing up and entering the contest or whatever, she is like, I don't know if I could do this and all this. Oh, it is funny.
Oh, yeah. It's the most beautiful woman on earth be so self-unaware. You know? Yeah.
Yeah. I do like this trajectory of Bobby where he like has increasingly little faith in his own ability to make money. Yes. He charges in and he tries to like, you know, calm in the air of a situation.
Then the second scheme of like, you know, getting the job also doesn't work out. And in all of these, he needs other people to, right? And it's so, Bobby, in the overall arcing of everything in the series, I feel like has one of the more satisfying arcs. Yeah.
Which is fun. Which does you mean to say, sadder? Was that a slip? That writing slip?
It was a slip. Yeah. He, Saturday. Nice.
Good save. You, I think, have mentioned like, he's gonna get humbled pretty. Yeah. Pretty nice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the way that we all get humbled. Great. When you're young, you're like, yeah, fuck everything.
I'm gonna take this world and I'm gonna put it in my pocket. And then you get older, you're like, oh god. Turn out your pockets. There's a frickin' mall fly.
He's eatin' the pocket. Oh crap. Should be noted too, that we were having two black cups of coffee. That's true.
That's true. I'm gonna take a sip right now. Dennis, take a bomb. Bong rips.
No, I was doing the, you ever see dead men don't wear plaid? You know, he's making the Java and it takes him like, for like three minutes to shake the bag of coffee into the pot. Yeah, yeah. It's taking tiny little sips.
That's funny. Yeah. Yeah, so Bobby, right? He's trying to give in Shelley to join the beauty pageants.
And then she goes back to work. We see Cooper come in and talk to Annie, who the two of them just have googly eyes for each other. It's very cute. And Cooper's like, Annie, I've got hungry officers outside.
I mean, donuts and black coffee. And she's like, all right. And then he's like, and I wanted to ask you if you would like to accompany me on a nature walk. Yeah, nature walk.
And she's like, I would like that this afternoon, right? So very cute. Did you notice that the donuts were dunking donuts? Yes, I did.
That was very strange to me. It was very strange. Really pulled me out of things. Yeah.
I guess. How are they getting dunking donuts from in the weeks? Yeah, well, I was wondering, like the dunking donuts used to be like a wholesaler, like as a diner, could you just like have your donuts supplied by the double D? But they used to make the dough.
They used to make the donuts at dunking donuts. They weren't like, right, it used to be time to make the donuts. Yeah. They weren't just like shipped there and like warmed up or whatever the fuck it is now.
This is a mystery unto itself. Yeah. Forget about these petroglyphs. I need to know where these donuts.
Oh, maybe it's a cream corn situation. That could be whatever that means. Yeah, yeah. It could be a cream corn situation.
I still don't really know what the cream corn means. But I'm about to find out soon. So while Cooper's standing there, Bobby says something else that Shelley walks out. And she recites a bit of a poem.
And Cooper, like his eyes wide and kind of goes white. He's like, where did you hear that? And Shelley's like, oh, somebody sent me an anonymous poem. It sent an anonymous poem to me, Audrey and Donna.
The way she recounts this bizarre thing, like it's just like, well, when you're at the prettiest girls in Twin Cities. You get an anonymous poem? Yes. You get an anonymous poem.
And he's like, do you have this on you? And she hands on the piece of work. In fact, I do. I guess it was only like a day ago.
Yeah. Yeah. So he's kind of distraught about this. Annie brings the coffee and donuts and Cooper's about to walk out.
And she's like, so later on this afternoon, he's like, I'll pick you up here at four o'clock chat. Back at the station, Cooper and Truman and Hawk, they're talking about the poem and pieces of the poem, whatever. Hawk comes in, brings McDonough's piece of the poem. Audrey is in Seattle, right?
This episode. So she's not around. Yeah, correction on last week. I thought she went to Alaska.
She went to Seattle. She went to Seattle, the Alaska of Washington. Many are saying this. More and more you're hearing it.
So many scrambled eggs and toss out. A lot of anal play in this. And so they're talking about the poem in Truman's like, how do you know this? And he's like, it's a poem that I wrote to the girl that he was in love with.
Windemurl's wife. Yeah. And he wrote the poem. Windemurl.
Yes. That's a good one. I believe her name was Windemurl. Yes.
Alternately, Windherurl. Yep. Yep. So he's like, Windemurl, he's playing with us.
Right? He's also kind of like, Windemurl, he's, I don't understand what he's doing anymore. Yeah. Right.
Things are getting out of hand. He also notes that the handwriting is not Windemurl's. Yeah. And he realizes he says, go pull me Leo Johnson's file.
He does a quick handwriting analysis, which we all, of course, know is fake. That is not a real thing you can do. You can't do that. No, it's one of the many fake sciences that police use to put people in prison for years and years.
I mean, it definitely feels like something that you can't face a whole case on or anything like that. Yeah. But I thought that there was some validity to it. I think like just visually you can be like, that's the same handwriting.
But I think when they're like, the nature of the strokes. Yeah. Like my only sort of reference to it in reality is Robert Durst. And did you watch the drinks?
I know we talked about it. But there's a moment where he writes down something and there was a letter after he murdered somebody. He wrote a letter to the police saying like, could to ever at this address. And it's in the exact same hand right?
And he's like, that's when he starts getting the murder burps in his body starts actively confessing. Yeah. He burps up a big bubble playing in four things. And when it pops, it says, I did it.
I killed those girls. So, Winamurl, right? We got a scene of him in his little log cabin there, playing his fucking flute, and like pontificating to Ted Raimi, who's again dressed like a roadie. Yeah.
He's wearing a spirit Halloween biker costume. Yeah. It's like a bandana and like long black hair wig. You know what he looks exactly like is, he looks like Tim Robinson in the, I think you should leave sketch.
And it's like, whoa, motor circle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
You're right. Big motor circle. Whoa. Yeah.
It's that same like goatee where the edges are like coming on glued. Yeah. Right. The goatee is so bad.
Yeah. It's like, it's almost like a, what's it called? What is the soul patch? Yeah.
Like a long soul patch. Long soul patch, right? And the character is awful. I, I mean, like this.
Oh, god. It's so bad. Ted Raimi is just like, he's really like playing into like, I'm just a fucking idiot. Like, come on, dude.
You said that there was going to be a party here, and there's going to be beer. Where is the party? It really is like beneath this show. It feels, yes.
It feels like you tricked an adult into it. Yes. Like, if they're going to sell that, they should have had a, another biker costume on a mannequin to indicate that Windemurl was dressed like this at one point. Yes.
Or have them still be. Yeah. Yeah. So Windemurl is talking about, you know, the white lodge and the black lodge and how he intends to find the black lodge.