Two Policy Experts on the Iran/Israel Non-War & (Ceasefire)

We have a big show for you all this week as Seena is joined by Jonathan Panikoff, the Director of the Scowcroft Middle East Security Initiative at the Atlantic Council, and Rachel Brandenburg, the Managing Director of the Israeli Policy Forum, to discuss the nature of the current ceasefire between Israel and Iran and where things are likely to go from here. Before that, Seena and Travis wonder what the hell words like “war” and “ceasefire” even mean anymore and watch as JD Vance gets a little too slippery with language.Our Guests:https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jonathan-panikoff/https://x.com/jpanikoff?lang=enhttps://israelpolicyforum.org/about/staff/rachel-brandenburg/https://www.cnas.org/people/rachel-brandenburgArticles/Resources:https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-siteshttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jd-vance/iran-vance-intervention-skeptic-role-salesman-rcna214345https://youtu.be/QeEN1uPiXF0?si=SQTPAWZIwa6Ex7vZhttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jd-vance/iran-vance-intervention-skeptic-role-salesman-rcna214345https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-trump-iran-dumb-presidents-b2774935.htmlhttps://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/06/23/iran-strikes-nuclear-program-00419268https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2025/06/22/repub/vance-dispatched-to-la-after-trump-administration-court-victory-in-national-guard-case/https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2025/06/24/as-veep-former-ohio-u-s-sen-jd-vance-just-cant-stop-trolling-gaslighting-and-flip-flopping/https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/trump-iran-israel-bomb-fordow-war/https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/after-israels-strikes-on-iran-these-four-questions-could-determine-the-middle-easts-future/https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/from-a-to-f-heres-how-to-grade-a-possible-nuclear-deal-with-iran/https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/gaza-cease-fire-is-over-whats-next-from-israel-hamas-and-the-us/https://www.cnas.org/publications/podcast/the-israeli-iranian-war-how-we-got-here-what-it-means Follow The Show: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheForeignReportInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/foreignreportshow/Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@foreignreportlpnThreads: https://www.threads.net/@foreignreportshowWebsite: https://www.foreignreportshow.com/ Follow the Host:https://www.instagram.com/seenanow/?hl=enhttps://www.instagram.com/travisirvineusa/?hl=en Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.