Two reality TV hacks glom over one another

The Dr. Phil (and obviously filtered and edited) interview of a convicted felon, the former President, Donald Trump, was predictably awful. Imagine 50-plus minutes of a man clearly in need of a psychologist, spewing lie after lie, laced with hyperbole and other half-truths, while the 'doctor" fails diagnose the chronically lying narcissist. You just come away convinced they're both facades; or at least it's now confirmed.