Two Stage 4 Survivors on Thriving, Not Just Fighting (with Gina Jacobson)

In the powerful inaugural episode of Dying Out Loud, host Kris Saim sits down with a guest who shares his exact diagnosis: stage four colon cancer. Guest Gina Jacobson, a leader of the global 'Working with Cancer' initiative , has outlived her initial prognosis by several years and is dedicated to helping others find purpose. This isn't a conversation about "fighting" cancer. In fact, both Kris and Gina reject that language. Instead, this is a raw, heartfelt discussion about finding a new way to live, work, and lead. Gina shares her story of being diagnosed at the height of her career , her initial attempt to "achieve her way through cancer" , and the moment she realized she had to play an "impact game instead of a coverage game". Discover the beautiful story behind "sending stars" as a way to ask for and receive support , and learn how the vulnerability of asking for help can become a "non-pill formed medicine" by allowing you to give support in return. This episode is a masterclass in post-traumatic growth and a powerful testament to living a joyful, purposeful life, even in the face of uncertainty.